The path to net zero

The path to net zero

Climate Assembly UK

Preface

Preface – a guide to this report

Welcome to  The path to net zero: Climate Assembly UK report . This information is designed to help you navigate this report and find quickly the content of most interest to you.

This report contains:

About the detailed chapters

Chapters 2–11 each contain:

Please note: Assembly members were asked to think about both the advantages and disadvantages of potential recommendations, and we have included full accounts of what they said. This means there are disadvantages listed for recommendations the assembly strongly supported, and advantages listed for recommendations that they did not. We have also left in contradictory opinions, where they existed. Assembly members' votes show the relative importance that they placed on the advantages and disadvantages they identified, and their final decisions having considered all points of view.

This report does not contain transcripts of the information presented to the assembly by the forty-seven speakers who gave evidence to it. You can find these, alongside videos of the presentations and the speakers slides, at climateassembly.uk/resources/.

The Climate Assembly UK team

Forewords

Foreword from Committee Chairs

When Parliament agreed in June 2019 to set in law a commitment to reach net zero carbon emissions by 2050 that was the easy part. The hard bit is to determine how we get there and then do it.

How should we go about making those choices? What is the contribution of each sector to achieving a decarbonised economy?

Because whatever combination of policy choices is made, there will be an impact on every taxpayer, every business, on the way every one of us lives our lives. No government in a democracy can address climate change on its own; it is a communal effort requiring the input, understanding and support of the people. Almost every facet of life and policy area will be affected.

That is why six select committees joined together last year to set up a citizens' assembly on climate change. When Parliament legislated on net zero, the committees decided to make the focus of the assembly how this target should be reached. We asked it to consider the complex trade-offs involved in reaching decisions on issues including: how we travel; what we eat; what we buy; how we heat our homes; how we generate our electricity; how we use the land.

The voice of Climate Assembly UK is important because it is unique: a body whose composition mirrors that of the UK population. People from all walks of life taking the time to inform themselves on complex issues, discussing the topics with experts and each other, and reaching conclusions.

On behalf of the six select committees that established Climate Assembly UK, we want to express our gratitude to all the 108 assembly members who gave up their time to take part. We have been enormously impressed by their commitment, not least in wanting to complete the assembly online after the outbreak of the Covid-19 pandemic made it impossible to hold the final weekend in Birmingham.

We also want to thank the assembly for giving us such a clear set of recommendations on the path to take. Assembly members were clear on the underlying principles that should govern our policy choices, including the importance of information and education and the need for fairness, to support those who might be adversely affected by the transition to net zero. They were clear on the need for Government to lead the debate and take the actions necessary to reach net zero. And they were clear on the need for a cross-party consensus, to give long-term certainty on the policy choices made.

Forging consensus is what we do on our cross-party select committees, on the basis of the evidence and what in our judgement is acceptable to the public. That is why the considered view of the assembly is so important. In each of our committees, we will study the relevant recommendations of the assembly and the reasons behind them, to inform our work in advising the Government on how to make progress in our respective policy areas and holding it to account for any slacking.

The path to net zero must be a joint endeavour, between Parliament, the people, Government and business. The assembly has more than delivered on the task we set it last year. The challenge is now for us in Parliament and for Government to navigate the pathways that have been set out in order to reach our agreed destination of net zero by 2050.

Mel Stride MP Chair, Treasury Committee

Darren Jones MP Chair, Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Committee

Foreword from the Expert Leads

The UK is one of the first countries to commit to achieving net zero emissions, and will host next year's international climate summit, COP26. This is an important period to show how leadership on climate change can be sustained at a time when the world is dealing with the impacts of the global coronavirus pandemic.

The UK has already made good progress with emissions reductions, but meeting future carbon budgets and the net zero target will be very challenging. Action is needed to transform our economy and society.

This transformation will not only be achieved through ramping up investment in technologies such as electric cars, offshore wind farms and home insulation. Citizens also have a crucial role to play. The way we live our lives, what we buy, how we travel and what we eat will all have an influence. So it is essential to work with citizens to make sure their views are heard, and develop strategies that fit with people's lives and aspirations.

Climate Assembly UK is a unique process that has helped to meet this need. It has brought together a representative group of 108 citizens and provided them with the space to understand, discuss and prioritise actions the UK should take.

The assembly took many hours of planning. We worked closely with Involve and the assembly's advisory groups to ensure that members would be provided with fair, balanced and comprehensive evidence on the different ways in which net zero could be achieved. This included a lot of time for the members to ask questions, discuss the evidence with each other, and to reach conclusions. There was also an opportunity to discuss topics that assembly members themselves considered to be important.

The value of all the planning became clear once the assembly began to meet in January. The 108 participants were no longer just a statistical sample of the population – but a real, diverse group of citizens from all over the UK. They were fully engaged from start to finish: questioning speakers, debating and testing different points of view. The team from Involve1 did a fantastic job of facilitating this process, and ensuring a wide range of views were heard in a respectful and balanced way.

This report provides detailed insights into the discussions and decisions of assembly members. The results of the votes will inevitably catch the eye. But the report also shows how nuanced the discussions were – including the reasons for assembly members' views, and the all-important conditions attached to some of the decisions.

This report provides vital new intelligence about the views of the UK public on the way forward. We strongly encourage decision-makers in government, industry and other organisations to read it in detail – and to take these views into account.2

Chris Stark Committee on Climate Change

Professor Jim Watson University College London

Professor Lorraine Whitmarsh University of Bath

Professor Rebecca Willis Lancaster University

Executive summary

Opening statement from Assembly Members

We come from all walks of life and all across the UK. We have, between us, many different values, views and experiences. But we have worked together in an atmosphere of respect, co-operation, tolerance and humour to arrive at the considered recommendations in this report.

Our recommendations and the reasons for them are necessarily numerous and detailed. But there are a number of themes that have recurred throughout our discussions that we believe should be at the heart of government's and Parliament's approach to achieving net zero:

Above : Assembly members listen to a speaker.

Some of our strongest views centre on leadership and roles. It is imperative that there is strong and clear leadership from government – leadership to forge a cross-party consensus that allows for certainty, long-term planning and a phased transition. This is not the time nor the issue for scoring party political points. The Covid-19 pandemic that has caused so much suffering brings with it new considerations, but it does not change the need for progress towards the UK's climate goals.

Alongside government leadership, we recognise that achieving net zero will require a joined-up approach across society – all of us will have to play our part. Our recommendations take account of this reality. They seek to provide individuals, communities and organisations with the information, incentives and conditions to make change possible. We hope that our report will be an invaluable resource to government and Parliament as they work to ensure that the UK reaches net zero by 2050.

About Climate Assembly UK

In June 2019, the UK Government and Parliament agreed that the UK should do more to tackle climate change. They passed a law committing the UK to reaching net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. Decisions about how the target is reached will affect many aspects of people's lives.

Climate Assembly UK was commissioned by six select committees of the House of Commons3 to examine the question:

"How should the UK meet its target of net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050?"

The committees aim to use the assembly's results to inform their work in scrunitising government.

The assembly's 108 members come from all walks of life. Together they are representative of the UK population in terms of: age, gender, ethnicity, educational level, where in the UK they live, whether they live in an urban or a rural area, and their level of concern about climate change.4 The Sortition Foundation recruited assembly members using a process known as 'sortition' (please see Chapter 1). Access, inclusion and assembly members' wellbeing were a priority for the Climate Assembly UK team.

"I was a bit worried that it would just be the people who were most passionate about the crisis – that you'd get an influx of people so it would be very one-sided and biased. So to come in and find it is a complete representation: I've spoken to people for who it's a complete crisis – to complete denial or don't believe it's a real thing, that end of the spectrum. So to see that representation was quite a surprise and really refreshing for someone like myself."

Assembly member – Chris, 32, from Oxford

Above : Sir David Attenborough addresses Climate Assembly UK.

The assembly met for six weekends between late January and mid-May 2020  – the first three took place face-to-face in Birmingham; the last three online after the arrival of Covid-19 in the UK. At the weekends, assembly members heard balanced, accurate and comprehensive information about how the UK could meet its net zero target.5 They then engaged in detailed discussions about the best way forwards, before reaching their recommendations. The assembly considered ten topics in total:

The assembly was open and transparent, whilst protecting assembly members' identities. Speakers' presentations were publicly available via online live-stream as they happened, and can now be found on the Climate Assembly UK website.6 The assembly was open to a wide range of media, stakeholders, officials and politicians so that they could observe its proceedings. The assembly was funded by the House of Commons, with additional funding from two philanthropic organisations: the Esmée Fairbairn Foundation and the European Climate Foundation. The two philanthropic organisations did not have a say in how the assembly was run or what it covered. Delivery of the assembly was led by The Involve Foundation ('Involve'), with the Sortition Foundation and mySociety (please see Chapter 1).

The path to net zero: Climate Assembly UK report recounts the assembly's detailed and considered view of its recommended path to net zero by 2050. Taken together the recommendations provide an internally consistent and coherent vision, and are designed to be considered as a whole.

Underpinning principles

Assembly members' first decision was on the principles that should underpin the UK's path to net zero. They worked in small groups to discuss and draft the principles, before using a vote to prioritise them.

In total, assembly members agreed twenty-five underpinning principles for the path to net zero.

Votes indicate how many assembly members felt a principle should be a priority, not how many supported it.7

Principles for the path to net zero, in order of priority

  1. Informing and educating everyone (the public, industry, individuals and government) – 74 votes
  2. Fairness within the UK, including for the most vulnerable (affordability, jobs, UK regions, incentives and rewards) in actions, not just words – 65 votes
  3. Leadership from government that is clear, proactive, accountable and consistent – 63 votes
  4. Protecting and restoring the natural world  – 59 votes
  5. Ensuring solutions are future-proofed and sustainable for the future – 45 votes
  6. A joined-up approach across the system and all levels of society (working together, collaborating, sharing) – 40 votes
  7. Long-term planning and a phased transition – 39 votes
  8. Urgency – 37 votes
  9. Support for sustainable growth (including pioneering innovation) – 37 votes
  10. Local community engagement embedded in national solutions – 33 votes
  11. Think about our impact globally and be a global leader – 32 votes
  12. Use of mix of natural and technological solutions – 32 votes
  13. Transparency and honesty – 32 votes
  14. Underpinned by scientific evidence and focused on the big wins – 29 votes
  15. Equality of responsibility for individuals, government and business – 28 votes
  16. Achievable – 27 votes
  17. Everyone should have a voice (e.g. via local representation and participation, or in holding government to account) – 27 votes
  18. Regular independent checks on progress – 27 votes
  19. Fairness for the most vulnerable globally  (less developed countries) – 24 votes
  20. Making the most of potential benefits for everyone (e.g. health, wellbeing and the economy) – 24 votes
  21. Enabling and not restricting individual choice – 23 votes
  22. Protect the UK economy, including from global competition – 18 votes
  23. Compromise about changing lifestyles  – 15 votes
  24. Those who bear the most responsibility should act – 13 votes
  25. Not negatively impacting other institutions – 4 votes

Assembly members returned to these principles, and considerations related to them, throughout the assembly.

Above : An assembly member asks a speaker a question.

How we travel on land

The ways we travel on land include cars, vans and lorries, as well public transport like buses, coaches and trains. They also include 'active transport', for example walking, cycling and scootering. Together these ways of moving around account for 70% of the UK's total greenhouse gas emissons from transport and 23% of the UK's greenhouse gas emissions overall.8

Key recommendations

Assembly members recommended a future which minimises restrictions on travel and lifestyles, placing the emphasis on shifting to electric vehicles and improving public transport, rather than on large reductions in car use. They recommended:

Assembly members identified 18 considerations that they would like government and Parliament to bear in mind when looking at how we travel on land and the path to net zero. A full list can be found in Chapter 3. Assembly members' ten highest priority considerations were:

In addition, assembly members recommended fifteen policies aimed at moving quickly to low carbon vehicles, increasing public and active transport, or discouraging car ownership and use. Policies supported by at least two-thirds of assembly members were:

On public transport

On the cars we drive

On active transport

On travelling less

How we travel by air

Air travel accounts for 22% of the UK's total greenhouse gas emissions from transport, and 7% of the UK's total greenhouse gas emissions overall. Emissions from flying have grown significantly in the last 30 years.12

Key recommendations

Assembly members identified 14 considerations that they would like government and Parliament to bear in mind when looking air travel and the path to net zero. A full list can be found in Chapter 4. Assembly members' ten highest priority considerations were:

What the future should look like

Assembly members would like to see a solution to air travel emissions that allows people to continue to fly. Assembly members felt that this would protect people's freedom and happiness, as well as having benefits for business and the economy. Assembly members' support for continued flying did, however, have limits. Assembly members resoundingly rejected a future in which air passenger numbers would rise by as much as 65% between 2018 and 2050, labelling it "counterproductive". Instead, assembly members sought to find an acceptable balance between achieving the net zero target, impacts on lifestyles, reliance on new technologies, and investment in alternatives. Assembly members recommended a future in which:

How change should happen

80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further should be part of how the UK gets to get zero (see Figure 1). Assembly members saw these taxes as fairer than alternative policy options. They also suggested a number of points around their implementation for policy-makers to bear in mind. Assembly members would like to see the airline industry invest in greenhouse gas removals. 75% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. There was also significant support for financial incentives from government to encourage a wide range of organisations to invest. Assembly members tended to feel that 'the polluter should pay', although some suggested a need to monitor, scrutinise and perhaps enforce airline industry investment to ensure it actually takes place. Assembly members strongly supported the need to invest in the development and use of new technologies for air travel. 87% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. These technologies could include electric aircraft and synthetic fuels.

Figure 1: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

A carbon tax on all fights 12%

Taxes that increase as people fly more often 21%

Taxes that increase as people fly more often 21%

Taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further 68%

Figure 1: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

In the home

Around 15% of the UK's greenhouse gas emissions come from the residential sector. Reducing these emissions means changes to the use of heating, hot water and electricity in the home.13

Key recommendations

Assembly members' recommendations on heat and energy use in the home show a strong push for action. They also consistently emphasised their support for:

Some assembly members noted concerns about the influence and behaviour of big companies and around the use of personal data.

What the future should look like

On home retrofits, assembly members emphasised the need to minimise disruption in the home, put in place support around costs, and offer flexibility and choice to homeowners. They had a slight preference for upgrading each home all in one go (56%), compared to upgrading each home gradually (44%) but attached conditions to the former around how it is financed. Some assembly members stressed that the choice between gradual and all-in-one retrofits should be one for homeowners.The best technology to use for zero carbon heating is a matter of significant policy debate. However at least 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that each of hydrogen (83%), heat pumps (80%), and heat networks (80%) should be part of how the UK gets to net zero.94% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that "people in different parts of the country should be offered different solutions to zero carbon heating" (see Figure 2). They argued that areas should be able to choose the technologies best suited to their needs.

How change should happen

Assembly members emphasised the need for a long-term strategy with a wide range of actors taking steps to move the sector towards net zero. Assembly members strongly supported roles for government investment (80%), local solutions (80%), individual responsibility (80%) and market innovation  (80%).

Figure 2: "People in different parts of the country should be offered different solutions to zero carbon heating" (%)

Strongly agree 68%

Agree 26%

Don’t mind/unsure 0%

Disagree 3%

Strongly disagree 3%

Figure 2: "People in different parts of the country should be offered different solutions to zero carbon heating" (%)

Assembly members also backed a wide range of specific measures to create change. A majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 19 policy measures should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Policies supported by at least two-thirds of assembly members were:

What we eat and how we use the land

Assembly members looked at food, farming and land use together because of the impact they have on one another. In total, about a tenth of the UK's greenhouse gas emissions currently come from farming and ways we use the land.

Above : One of the speakers, Dr Modi Mwatsama from Wellcome, presents to the assembly.

Key recommendations

Assembly members put forward eight considerations for government and Parliament to bear in mind when making decisions about food, farming, land use and the path to net zero. These focussed on (for the full, detailed wording please see Chapter 6):

  1. Providing support to farmers;
  2. Information and education;
  3. Using land efficiently;
  4. Rules for large retailers and supermarkets;
  5. More local and seasonal food;
  6. Making low carbon food more affordable;
  7. Some, just less, meat;
  8. Considering net zero as part of planning policy and new developments, including support for allotments.

What the future should look like

Assembly members recommended a future for food, farming and land use in the UK centred around:

Assembly members highlighted the need for the above to be combined with measures to support farmers to make the transition, and ensure changes do not disproportionately affect the less well off. Assembly members said changes should not compromise animal welfare, and expressed strong concerns about GM and lab grown food. They asked for policy-makers to take into account the implications for smaller farms, the suitability of different land for different uses, and differences in impact between UK regions .

How change should happen

Assembly members recommended policies to change both farming, food production and land use, and retail and individuals' behaviour. At least two-thirds 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that nine policies should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. These were:

Full details of assembly members' views on these policies can be found in Chapter 6.

Above : One of the speakers, Professor Paul Ekins from University College London, takes questions from assembly members.

What we buy

The things we buy are linked to climate change because they use energy, and some of that energy comes from fossil fuels like oil, coal and gas.

Products use energy while they are being made, through services we use when we buy them and because of how they reach us. Some products also need energy to run. When we then throw products away that has implications for climate change too. The UK has traditionally sent most of its waste to landfill sites. Some of this waste generates potent greenhouse gases as it rots.

Key recommendations

Assembly members' recommendations on 'what we buy' entail changes for businesses in particular, but also for individuals. Assembly members identified five areas as key:

  1. Assembly members strongly supported a future in which businesses make products using less – and lower carbon – energy and materials. They backed a range of specific policies to support this aim, including 'resource efficiency targets and standards' (91%), an 'amended procedure for awarding government contracts that gives preference to low carbon companies and products' (83%), taxes on producers, products and services (83%), and 'extended producer responsibility' (79%).
  2. Assembly members supported the idea of individuals repairing and sharing more, with less purchasing of new products. They backed 'measures to enable product sharing' (77%) including technical and financial support to businesses who offer sharing or renting services.
  3. Assembly members felt strongly about the need for better information to promote informed choice and changes in individual behaviour. They supported 'labelling and information about the carbon emissions caused by different products and services' (92%) and 'product labelling and information campaigns about what can be recycled and why it's important' (92%). They also backed 'advertising bans and restrictions' on high emissions products or sectors (74%).
  4. Assembly members supported a range of measures aimed at increasing recycling, including 'deposit return schemes' (86%), 'increased doorstep recycling' (85%), and 'grants and incentives for businesses' to improve recycling, develop new materials and make goods from recycled materials (77%).
  5. Assembly members called for long-term commitment from government and Parliament. They emphasised the importance of cross-party support to prevent policies changing when governments change, as well as the need to look at both quick wins and long-term solutions.

Above : Assembly members listen to a speaker.

In addition to these five areas, some assembly members raised points for government and Parliament to consider around imports, ring-fencing any tax revenue generated by the above policies, and protecting consumers from increased costs. Some also highlighted trust and compliance issues relating to business, asking for transparency, honesty, strong enforcement, and reliable and independent information and schemes.

Assembly members did not support policies around changing income tax or working hours, personal carbon allowances, voluntary agreements, recycling requirements and pay-as-you-throw schemes.

Figure 3: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Advertising bans and restrictions

40% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Changes to income tax or working hours

6% Strongly Agree

11% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

26% Disagree

49% Strongly disagree

Personal carbon allowances

11% Strongly Agree

14% Agree

17% Don’t mind or unsure

40% Disagree

17% Strongly disagree

Measures to enable product sharing

17% Strongly Agree

60% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Taxes on producers, products and services

37% Strongly Agree

46% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

Extended producer responsibility

40% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

25% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

Figure 3: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

Where our electricity comes from

How the UK generates its electricity is a central question on the path to net zero. The UK still produces a significant amount of its electricity from fossil fuels, particularly gas. This emits carbon dioxide, which contributes to global warming and climate change.

All the UK's electricity generation will need to come from low carbon sources if it is to meet its net zero target. The UK is also likely to need more electricity in future due to an increase in electric vehicles and electric heating.

Key recommendations

Large majorities of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that three ways of generating electricity should be part of how the UK gets to net zero :

Assembly members tended to see these technologies as proven, clean and low cost, with wind-based options suitable for a "windy" UK. Offshore wind had key additional benefits, particularly being "out of the way". Solar power was viewed as flexible in terms of where it can be located, among other advantages.

Some assembly members suggested a range of points to bear in mind when implementing all three technologies. These included their location and environmental impact, progress on electricity storage, ways to incentivise and facilitate uptake, visual design, and where they are manufactured.

Assembly members were much less supportive of bioenergy, nuclear and fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage – although, particularly for bioenergy, significant numbers of assembly members were unsure about its use:

For some assembly members, their view on bioenergy would depend on how bioenergy is produced, including what is being burnt, how production is regulated, and therefore what its environmental and CO2 impacts are. Assembly members' concerns about bioenergy included burning trees and crops, land use, environmental effects, and a feeling that better alternatives exist.

Above : A question and answer session is live-streamed online.

Assembly members saw three main disadvantages to nuclear : its cost, safety, and issues around waste storage and decommissioning.

Their concerns about fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage centred on safety risks (if carbon leaked during storage or transfer), the continued use of fossil fuels, and a feeling that it only provides a "short-term", expensive solution when better alternatives are available.

Assembly members did not hear detailed evidence about tidal, wave, hydro and geothermal technologies. However, assembly members were in principle supportive of the use of these final four ways of generating electricity, particularly for suitable local areas.

Figure 1: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following technologies should be part of how the UK generates electricity? (%) 5

Onshore wind

44% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

12% Don’t mind or unsure

7% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Offshore wind

80% Strongly Agree

15% Agree

5% Don’t mind or unsure

0% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Solar power

51% Strongly Agree

30% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

5% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Bioenergy

10% Strongly Agree

30% Agree

36% Don’t mind or unsure

20% Disagree

4% Strongly disagree

Nuclear

12% Strongly Agree

22% Agree

18% Don’t mind or unsure

23% Disagree

23% Strongly disagree

Fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage

4% Strongly Agree

18% Agree

22% Don’t mind or unsure

29% Disagree

27% Strongly disagree

Figure 4: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following technologies should be part of how the UK generates electricity? (%)15

Greenhouse gas removals

Achieving the UK's climate change target requires reducing greenhouse gas emissions as much as possible. However reducing emissions alone will not be enough.

Above : Assembly members discuss the issues.

By the middle of this century some emissions will still remain. For the themes considered by Climate Assembly UK, this is particularly true of air travel and farming. The assembly's recommendations in these areas suggest remaining emissions by 2050 of between 45–55 million tonnes per year. The assembly therefore considered how best to remove these remaining emissions from the atmosphere.

Key recommendations

Assembly members suggested that a combination of greenhouse gas removal methods will be needed to achieve the UK's net zero target.

Assembly members recommended that four greenhouse gas removal methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero:

Assembly members saw these methods as the most "natural" and as having significant co-benefits, including around preventing flooding and erosion, promoting biodiversity, access to nature and enjoyment. Assembly members also set out a number of conditions around their implementation, including that it is planned and managed well (for example, planting the right trees in the right places), support for farmers, sustainability, and the balance of land use.

Assembly members were less supportive of Bioenergy with Carbon Capture and Storage (BECCS) and Direct Air Carbon Capture and Storage (DACCS). Only 42% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that each of these methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero, while 36% (BECCS) and 39% (DACCS) 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed'.

Common concerns about BECCS and DACCS included the potential for leaks from carbon storage sites and a feeling that they failed to address the problem, including a risk that they are "treated as [a] magic solution" that "takes the focus off the amount that we are emitting in the first place." Assembly members also saw these methods, particularly DACCS, as being less natural, costly and unproven in terms of the technology they require.

Whilst BECCS and DACCS received limited support, some assembly members are keen that further research and development takes place. Some noted that these technologies could perhaps then be used more in the future or that they might be needed to "mop up" remaining CO2.

Figure 5: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following greenhouse gas removal methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (% votes)

Forests and better forest management

81 % Strongly Agree

18 % Agree

1 % Don’t mind or unsure

Restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands

50% Strongly Agree

35% Agree

13% Don’t mind or unsure

2% Disagree

Enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil

24% Strongly Agree

38% Agree

23% Don’t mind or unsure

12% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Using wood in construction

42% Strongly Agree

40% Agree

15% Don’t mind or unsure

1% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Bioenergy with carbon capture and storage

7% Strongly Agree

35% Agree

22% Don’t mind or unsure

18% Disagree

18% Strongly disagree

Direct air capture

11% Strongly Agree

31% Agree

19% Don’t mind or unsure

21% Disagree

18% Strongly disagree

Figure 5: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following greenhouse gas removal methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (% votes) 

Covid-19, recovery and the path to net zero

The arrival of Covid-19 in the UK saw an additional item added to the assembly's agenda. At the request of both Parliament and assembly members themselves, space was made for consideration of the changed context for reaching net zero created by the pandemic, lockdown and their economic impacts.17

Assembly members' views on this topic are significant. There is no other group that is at once representative of the UK population, and well-acquainted with the sorts of measures required to reach net zero.

Recovery

A large majority of assembly members (79%) 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that, 'steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero'. When giving their rationale, they most frequently recommended that the government:

Assembly members who were unsure or who disagreed with the statement tended to emphasise a need to focus on economic recovery first and foremost.

Another large majority of assembly members (93%) 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that, 'as lockdown eases, government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero'. Assembly members expressed support for encouraging homeworking and changes to how we travel, and again noted that this "tough and sad time" presents an opportunity for change. They also saw a key role for government in providing leadership and information, alongside roles for business and local areas.

Figure 6: "As lockdown eases, government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero" (%)

54% Strongly Agree

39% Agree

3% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Figure 6: "As lockdown eases, government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero" (%)

Impact on the assembly's thinking

Assembly members tended to avoid expressing 'strong' 18 views about whether Covid-19 and the lockdown had made them think or feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero. In general their comments reflected the changed context created by Covid-19 rather than requests for alterations to specific recommendations.

Overall assembly members tended to agree that their thoughts and feelings about the path to net zero in general had changed (62%). They talked about a new sense of opportunity for change, and altered perceptions of what is possible (e.g. what government can do). They also noted lifestyle changes that are already happening. Some highlighted the economic impacts of the pandemic, suggesting, for example, that they make reaching net zero more difficult.73% of the assembly members who had looked at 'how we travel' during assembly weekends two and three said that Covid-19 and lockdown had changed their thoughts and feelings about how to get to net zero in this area. They noted:

Only a minority of assembly members said that their thoughts and feelings had changed about the other assembly themes discussed prior to lockdown: 'in the home' (35%), 'what we eat and how we use the land' (36%), and 'what we buy' (36%).

Additional recommendations

On the final assembly weekend, all assembly members discussed what further recommendations they wanted to make to Parliament and government. Assembly members worked together to draft suggested additions, which could be on any aspect of the path to net zero. The suggestions were then put to a vote of the whole assembly.

Above : Assembly members discuss the issues.

Assembly members did not hear any new evidence to inform their votes. Their decisions were based on their own experiences, values, views and knowledge, and the information they had heard throughout the assembly. They had the option to abstain or choose 'unsure'.

In total, assembly members voted in favour of thirty-nine additional recommendations. They did not pass two further proposals.

The recommendations touch on themes including: transparency, accountability and decision-making; education, communication and engagement; international action and impacts; and incentives, payments, conditions, and taxes.

Additional recommendations passed by the assembly

For the full list and wording of each recommendation – some are detailed – please see Chapter 11. The ten recommendations that received most support were:

  1. The transition to net zero should be a cross-political party issue, and not a partisan one (96% support 19);
  2. More transparency in the relationship between big energy companies and government (94% support);
  3. Get to net zero without pushing our emissions to elsewhere in the world (92% support);
  4. Incentives to accelerate progress to net zero and conditions attached for organisations seeking government financial support (91% support);
  5. A robust media strategy on the outcomes of the Assembly (90% support);
  6. An independent neutral body that that monitors and ensures progress to net zero, including citizens assemblies and independent experts (89% support);
  7. Move away from fossil fuels and transition to new energy sources (89% support);
  8. Products and services labelled to include their carbon footprint (89% support);
  9. A follow up on the outcomes of the Assembly covering what has been taken into account, what hasn't and why (88% support);
  10. Harness the response to Covid-19 and COP26 to drive international coordinated action on climate change (87% support).

Proposals not passed by the assembly

The assembly did not pass two proposals. Both focussed on reaching net zero by an earlier date than 2050. Slightly more assembly members opposed such a move than supported it, with the balance held by those who were 'unsure' or 'didn't mind.'

Above : Assembly members listen to a speaker.

Assembly members' views of the assembly

An independent evaluation of Climate Assembly UK will be published in Spring 2021. However, initial results suggest that assembly members viewed the assembly positively.

Statement about the assembly, from the survey completed by assembly members after all six weekends% assembly members ‘strongly agreed’ or ‘agreed’% assembly members ‘don’t know / unsure’% assembly members ‘strongly disagreed’ or ‘disagreed’

‘I have understood almost everything that the other members of my small group said during our discussions’

98

1

1

‘I have understood almost everything that was presented by the speakers’

95

4

1

‘I have had enough information to participate effectively’

91

5

4

‘The information I have received has been fair and balanced between different view points’

78

16

6

‘The assembly has helped me clarify my views about how to reach net zero’

96

1

3

‘I have learned a lot during the assembly about how UK can achieve net zero by 2050’

95

3

2

‘My fellow participants have respected what I had to say, even when they didn’t agree with me’

94

5

0

‘I have had ample opportunity in the small group discussions to express my views’

95

2

3

The initial results also:

"Like everyone else, I really enjoyed the entire experience, and I am sorry that it has now come to an end. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity, and I am truly grateful to have been given the chance to take part."

Assembly member

About Climate Assembly UK

In June 2019, the UK Government and Parliament agreed that the UK should do more to tackle climate change. They passed a law committing the UK to reaching net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

The target means that by 2050 the UK will have to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases it produces to a much lower level than today, and balance its remaining emissions by removing the same amount from the atmosphere. Decisions about how the target is reached will affect many aspects of people's lives.

It is against this backdrop that six select committees20 of the House of Commons decided to commission Climate Assembly UK21 – the first UK-wide citizens' assembly on climate change. The committees asked the assembly to examine the question:

"How should the UK meet its target of net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050?"

The committees aim to use the assembly's results to inform their work in scrunitising government.

Climate Assembly UK has 108 members, who together are representative of the UK population in terms of both demographics and their level of concern about climate change (please see Section A below). They met as an assembly over six weekends between the end of January and the middle of May 2020. This report presents their recommendations – assembly members' detailed and considered views on the path to net zero.

About this chapter and citizens' assemblies

Governments and parliaments around the world are increasingly using citizens' assemblies in their work. The assemblies enable decision-makers to understand people's informed and considered preferences on issues that are complex, controversial, moral or constitutional. The UK Parliament commissioned its first citizens' assembly, the Citizens' Assembly on Social Care, in 2018.

Citizens' assemblies have a number of key features including:22

This chapter looks at how Climate Assembly UK worked across each of these areas. It also includes a brief introduction to how the assembly's results are presented in the rest of this report.

A. Introducing the assembly members

"I felt like I'd won the lottery when I got the letter. I'd be daft not to do it – it's amazing to get the chance to have a say and influence what may happen in the future. I was in the army for 22 years so I've not got a problem meeting new people and learning new things, I'm really looking forward to it. I hope Britain can take a leading role with making the changes we need to secure our future."

Assembly Member – Marc, 46, from Newcastle

Climate Assembly UK's members come from all walks of life, and all across the UK – from Belfast to Bolton. They include parents, grandparents, and people without children; health workers, engineers, and full-time carers. At the time we first heard from them, the oldest was 79 years old; the youngest 16. None of them had ever met before.

Together they are representative of the UK population in terms of:

Above : Sir David Attenborough addresses Climate Assembly UK.23

The Sortition Foundation24 recruited assembly members using a process known as 'sortition' or a 'civic lottery.' Sortition is recognised internationally as the gold standard method for recruiting citizens' assembly members.

"I am grateful to the 110 people from all corners of the United Kingdom who are giving up their weekends to take part in this very important discussion of how we in the UK reach our net zero emissions target. These people have been picked to represent our population as a whole, they come from all walks of life, and together they will deliberate carefully on behalf of us all. We should listen closely to their recommendations."

Sir David Attenborough, Naturalist & Broadcaster

A.1 How recruitment worked

The recruitment process for assembly members had three stages.

Stage one – letters to a randomly selected households

"I was quite intrigued by the letter. To be asked for my opinion is unusual so it was certainly interesting."

Assembly member

The recruitment process started with Parliament sending out letters to addresses randomly selected from Royal Mail's Postcode Address File: 80% of the addresses were randomly selected from the whole file; 20% from the most deprived areas within the file.25

The letters 26invited those aged 16 years or over, who are permanent UK residents 27, living at an address that received a letter, to take part in the assembly. 28 Recipients had the option to respond online or by phone to say that they were free on the relevant dates and would be interested in taking part. 29When they replied, we asked them a small number of demographic and attitudinal questions – those needed to be able to ensure that the assembly's eventual membership was representative of the UK population across the seven criteria described above.

Stage two – random stratified sampling, done by computer

"I do hope there will be an opportunity for us all to meet up again. The Climate Assembly has been an extremely interesting and worthwhile experience for me and one which I feel very privileged to have participated in. Thank you computer!!!"

Assembly member

Once the deadline for responses had passed, the Sortition Foundation used random stratified sampling by computer30 to generate a list of 110 people to become assembly members.31 The computer selected no more than one person from any single household.

Sortition Foundation contacted these 110 individuals to let them know that they had been selected and to confirm their availability. They replaced anyone who dropped out at this stage, ensuring the assembly's overall membership continued to be representative. They also contacted all other respondents to let them know they were on a reserve list and could be contacted if anyone withdrew before the first assembly weekend.

Stage three – liaison and final replacements

"I'm looking forward to taking part in the assembly and learning a lot more, and I think I have some great ideas to contribute."

Assembly Member – Maia, 44, from London

Involve, the public participation charity that would run the assembly weekends (please see Section D), took over contact with assembly members from this point. They focussed on ensuring that everyone had everything they needed ready for the first assembly weekend. This included providing any necessary support, for example with booking travel.

A number of assembly members had to withdraw during this stage for a variety of personal reasons. Involve replaced these assembly members with people from the reserve list, ensuring that the assembly's membership overall remained representative of the UK population.

A.2 The assembly's make-up

"I was a bit worried that it would just be the people who were most passionate about the crisis – that you'd get an influx of people so it would be very one-sided and biased. So to come in and find it is a complete representation: I've spoken to people for who it's a complete crisis – to complete denial or don't believe it's a real thing, that end of the spectrum. So to see that representation was quite a surprise and really refreshing for someone like myself."

Assembly member – Chris, 32, from Oxford

All but two of the 110 assembly members arrived at the Climate Assembly UK venue for the assembly's first weekend. This made a total assembly membership of 108 people.32 The table below shows how these 108 assembly members compare to the UK population:

CriteriaUK population[^14] %Assembly members %No. of assembly members

Age

16–29

21.7

23.1

25

30–44

23.9

25.9

28

45–59

25.0

24.1

26

60+

29.4

26.9

29

Data Source: ONS estimate mid-2018.

Gender

Male

49.1

48.1

52

Female

51

50.9

55

Other

No data

0.9

1

Data Source: ONS estimate mid-2018.

Ethnicity

White

87

83.3

90

BAME

13

16.7

18

Data Source: ONS UK Census 2011.

Education

No Qualifications / Level 1

36.3

36.1

39

Level 2 / Level 3 / Apprenticeship / Other

36.5

34.3

37

Level 4 and above

27.2

29.6

32

Date source for England and Wales: ONS 2011 UK Census. Data source for Scotland: Scottish Government’s Scottish Surveys Core Questions 2013. Data source for Northern Ireland: Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency, Northern Ireland Census 2011.

Geography

England

North East

4.0

4.6

5

North West

11.0

11.1

12

Yorkshire and The Humber

8.3

8.3

9

East Midlands

7.2

7.4

8

West Midlands

8.9

8.3

9

East of England

9.3

9.3

10

London

13.4

12.0

13

South East

13.8

12.0

13

South West

8.4

8.3

9

Wales

4.7

5.6

6

Scotland

8.2

9.3

10

Northern Ireland

2.8

3.7

4

Data Source: ONS estimate mid-2018.

Rural/Urban

Urban

82

79.6

86

Rural

18

20.4

22

Data source for England and Wales: UK Government, Rural population 2014/2015. Data source for Scotland: Scottish Government, Rural Scotland – key facts 2018. Data source for Northern Ireland: Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency, Northern Ireland Census 2011.

Climate views

Very concerned

52

49.1

53

Fairly concerned

33

32.4

35

Not very concerned

9

14.8

16

Not at all concerned

5

2.8

3

Other

1

0.9

1

Data Source: Ipsos/Mori, July 2019 (Q: How concerned, if at all, are you about climate change, sometimes referred to as ‘global warming’?

Assembly members' attendance throughout the assembly remained high. Ill-health and other personal reasons occasionally meant that one or more assembly members missed a weekend.33 However this never had a significant effect on the percentages in the table above.

Assembly members spent much of their time at the assembly working in small groups. We created seating plans to make sure there were a diverse range of assembly members at each table, in line with the seven recruitment criteria. We changed the seating plan every day during the offline weekends and for each session during the online weekends.

Above : Assembly members discuss the issues.

A.3 Access, inclusion and wellbeing

"Edd, Rebecca and the rest of the red [support] team you've made me feel so welcomed, relaxed and at ease on all three of the hotel weekends. You answered all of my queries, questions and emails no matter how trivial it may have been. You've all been so friendly and chatty. You've been with me every step of this whole experience, even when I've been tired and emotional. I stepped completely out of my comfort zone and [taking part] wouldn't have been possible without all of you."

Assembly member

Access and inclusion were key considerations throughout the assembly.34 Prior to the first weekend, they influenced decisions such as our venue choice (a fully accessible venue), the venue's location, and the timings of the events. We gave assembly members an honorarium of £150 per weekend35 for their participation, as well as covering their travel, accommodation and food/drink. Where relevant we covered costs such as childcare and the attendance of parents/guardians. We paid all costs relating to assembly members bringing carers with them to the weekends. We also met other access needs by, for example, providing hearing loops, headsets and materials in large print.

"The tone set by Involve was perfect. It was welcoming, open and yet firm and assertive. It encouraged people to behave well and to take the assembly very seriously. It created an atmosphere of respect, co-operation, tolerance and humour. People from all walks of life were able to discuss and share with each other in a way they wouldn't have managed in a different setting."

Assembly member

Access and inclusion remained key considerations at the assembly venue. In the first assembly session, assembly members drafted conversation guidelines for themselves. Examples included "respect others' backgrounds and opinions", "ensure everyone can participate", "be calm and polite", and "be honest and don't be afraid to give your opinion." The facilitators36 at the weekends helped to ensure that assembly members were mindful of the guidelines at all times. They also used facilitation techniques that helped ensure everyone had a voice. We worked with the Expert Leads and speakers (please see Section D) to make the information presented to assembly members as accessible and digestible as possible.

We took a number of additional steps around access and inclusion when the assembly moved online due to Covid-19. These included minimising the amount of time assembly members, including those with young children, had to spend online at any one point, and ensuring that all assembly members had a way to participate in the sessions for free. We provided technical support and a guided chance to get to know the platforms we would be using. We provided flexible arrangements, where needed, for how and when assembly members could participate.

"They were all so mindful of our needs and sympathetic to the different levels of confidence we had. A particular mention of the 'Quiet Room' staff. I hadn't expected to find this facility and was impressed that it had been thought of. I used it myself on a couple of occasions and found it to be an oasis of calm."

Assembly member

Another critical consideration was assembly members' wellbeing . 37 There was a support team both at and between weekends whose focus was to look after assembly members. We asked assembly members to fill out feedback forms at the end of every assembly weekend so that we could check for any issues. We also checked-in with each assembly member individually after each event to make sure all was well.

At the assembly venue in Birmingham we created a designated Quiet Room, staffed by a trained member of the team. Assembly members could use it at any time if they were feeling unwell, distressed, in need of some space, or for any other reason. When the assembly moved online, we instead provided a phone number that assembly members could use to reach trained members of staff.

Above : Assembly members discuss the issues.

B. The assembly weekends

The assembly was originally intended to run over four weekends in Birmingham, between the end of January and the end of March 2020. Three of these weekends happened as planned. The arrival of Covid-19 in the UK led to the fourth and final weekend being postponed and then moved online.

"It was disappointing that weekend four didn't go ahead, but obviously we have to protect everybody's health, so it was the right thing to do. I am glad that it is going forward in some capacity and I think that doing it virtually is the best way to do this." 

Assembly member – Sharon, from Yorkshire

We split the intended content for the offline weekend four over three online weekends to ensure the assembly remained accessible (please see Section A.3 above).38 Following requests from assembly members, Parliament and the Expert Leads, we also added a session on the implications of Covid-19 for the path to net zero.39

The content of each weekend was as follows:

Weekend one

"Being here and seeing all these people, from all walks of life, representing the UK population, all so involved and willing to help make a change is really inspiring."

 Assembly Member – Ibrahim, 42, from Surrey

All assembly members heard from, and questioned, three panels of speakers. The panels covered an introduction to climate change and the net zero target; and overarching ethical, practical and strategic questions about the path to net zero.

Assembly members also reached their first decisions, on principles that should underpin the UK's approach to meeting its climate target (please see Chapter 2).

Weekend two

"It's an eye-opener all the new things I'm learning – incredible."

Assembly Member – Amanda, from Kent

On the Friday evening of weekend two, assembly members focussed on ways to consider the information they would receive throughout the assembly process.40 On Saturday morning, all assembly members heard an introduction to where our energy comes from, and questioned the speakers. The assembly then split into three groups to examine:

We divided assembly members into the three groups using random stratified sampling based on the seven recruitment criteria listed in Section A. This ensured each group remained representative of the UK population. Assembly members spent the remainder of weekend two in these groups, hearing evidence, questioning speakers and beginning to discuss what they had heard.

Weekend three

 "I feel like attitudes are constantly changing among who I'm sitting with and I'm enjoying it. Figuring out how we're going to balance finance and technology and trying to grasp how we're going to be able to fund these things but make sure things are getting done... It's pretty special, especially as I'm only 21. It's something I didn't think I'd be able to get involved in, this early on. It's going to have such a big impact on my future and hopefully, my children's future so it's really lovely to be asked to be involved in such a massive but valuable project." 

Assembly Member – Ellie, 21, from Buckinghamshire

Weekend three started with a chance for assembly members to feed in their thoughts on the topics that their group had not considered at the previous weekend. We wrote these thoughts up overnight on the Friday and provided them to assembly members in the relevant groups on Saturday morning.

Assembly members spent the rest of weekend three in their topic groups, discussing the evidence they had heard at weekend two and reaching their decisions on these issues.

Weekend four (online)

"Going online was another experience I had never had before. It worked really well. It was well organised and well done."

Assembly member

All assembly members spent weekend four focussed on the issue of 'where our electricity comes from' (please see Chapter 8). Assembly members heard from a panel of speakers on Saturday morning, questioned them on Saturday afternoon and discussed their views on Sunday morning. They made their final decisions by vote online, in a secure way, at the close of the weekend.

Weekend five (online)

"The facilitation team has been amazing. They've kept us engaged and focused throughout the weekends which can't have been easy when your dealing with 110 opinionated human beings … and they've done it in a friendly and respectful way."

Assembly member

Weekend five followed the same format as weekend four, with all assembly members considering the topic of 'removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere' (please see Chapter 9).

Weekend six (online)

"As a member of Climate Assembly UK I am proud that, despite the many challenges faced by us all during the Covid-19 pandemic, we have still managed to finish the work needed to successfully provide the six select committees with proposals to meet the target of net zero carbon emissions by 2050. I hope Parliament will take time to consider these proposals with due care and respect."

Assembly member – Adrian, 52, from Northern Ireland

Weekend six was split into three parts:

Assembly members continued to provide feedback on drafts of this report, and on the assembly's interim briefing released in June 2020,41 after the end of weekend six.

How the assembly reached its decisions

Assembly members learnt about each topic they considered and discussed them in-depth. They then made their decisions. This decision-making phase took two different forms:

Citizens' assemblies often primarily use the first kind of entirely bottom-up decision-making process. Climate Assembly UK supplemented this with votes on scenarios and options for a number of reasons:

The process for deciding on the options and scenarios used at the assembly was the same as the one for ensuring the information assembly members heard was balanced, accurate and comprehensive (please see Section C of this chapter).

Which decision-making process was used for which decisions is described clearly throughout this report.

Above : An assembly member takes notes.

C. Balanced, accurate and comprehensive information

The assembly team worked hard to ensure that the information presented to assembly members was balanced, accurate and comprehensive.

The Expert Leads

This work started with the assembly's Expert Leads: Chris Stark, Committee on Climate Change; Professor Jim Watson, University College London; Professor Lorraine Whitmarsh, University of Bath; and Professor Rebecca Willis, University of Lancaster.43

The role of the Experts Leads was to ensure that Climate Assembly UK was:

They worked closely with Involve (please see Section D below) to draft the assembly's structure, including the themes it would consider, and the focus of each panel of speakers. They also drafted briefs for each speaker slot on each panel, and suggested names of speakers against each brief.

The Expert Leads all attended the assembly weekends as speakers and to provide balanced answers to questions that arose during assembly members' discussions. They were supported in this role by Jenny Hill, Committee on Climate Change, and Professor Jillian Anable, University of Leeds.

Advisory Panel

The Expert Leads' suggestions for the content of the assembly went first to its Advisory Panel for feedback. Members of the Advisory Panel were, in alphabetical order:44

Panel members commented on every part of the plans, suggesting additional content, amended structures for panels, and alternative speakers. Minutes of Advisory Panel meetings are published on the Climate Assembly UK website. Advisory Panel members also commented on all written briefings provided to assembly members.

Academic Panel

Members of Climate Assembly UK's academic panel were, in alphabetical order:46

The Expert Leads drew on the expertise of individual members of this panel when drafting and finalising the assembly's suggested content. Academic panel members also commented on written briefings provided to assembly members within their respective areas of specialism.

Wider society

Climate Assembly UK is grateful for the engagement and input of a number of prominent business, faith and civil society leaders from across UK society.

These individuals received a briefing on Climate Assembly UK in December 2019 and had the opportunity to provide comments:

Parliament

Sign off47 on the assembly's plans rested with Parliament, including House of Commons select committee staff and officials from the Parliamentary Office of Science and Technology (POST). These individuals have considerable experience of putting together balanced panels and evidence for Members of Parliament and select committees.

Speakers

The assembly's final design included presentations from forty-seven speakers, including the Expert Leads. Some speakers were asked to act as 'informants', meaning they needed to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic. Others were asked to be 'advocates', giving their own view or that of their organisation. At the start of each chapter we have included in a footnote a list of the speakers who presented on that topic and noted whether they were advocates or informants. We also gave assembly members this information before they heard from the relevant individuals.

In addition to the forty-seven speakers, and the opportunity to hear from Sir David Attenborough, Chairs of two of the commissioning select committees – Rachel Reeves MP,48 and Mel Stride MP – addressed the assembly. They thanked assembly members for taking part and explained why they see Climate Assembly UK as important.

A full list of speakers, including the two MPs, can be found on the Climate Assembly UK website.

Transparency

Transparency was a key consideration for the Climate Assembly UK team. The Climate Assembly UK website (www.climateassembly.uk) contains information including:

We live-streamed all speaker presentations to the assembly online. We also opened the assembly to a wide range of media, stakeholders, officials and politicians so that they could observe the assembly's proceedings.

We were careful to balance our wish for complete transparency against the need to protect assembly members' identities. Assembly members all had a choice about whether or not to take part in media interviews, photos and audio/video footage of the assembly. It was also their decision whether or not to reveal their identity on social media.

D. The delivery team and funding

After a competitive tendering process, in September 2019 Parliament awarded a contract for the delivery of Climate Assembly UK to:

Climate Assembly UK was funded by the House of Commons, with additional funding from two philanthropic organisations: the Esmée Fairbairn Foundation and the European Climate Foundation.49 The two philanthropic organisations did not have a say in how the assembly was run or what it covered.

The Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit worked with Parliament to support communications outreach around the Climate Assembly UK weekends and results. www.eciu.net

E. Assembly members' views of the assembly

An independent evaluation of Climate Assembly UK will be published in Spring 2021. However, initial results suggest that assembly members viewed the assembly very positively:

Statement about the assembly, from the survey completed by assembly members after all six weekends% assembly members ‘strongly agreed’ or ‘agreed’% assembly members ‘don’t know / unsure’% assembly members ‘strongly disagreed’ or ‘disagreed’

‘I have understood almost everything that the other members of my small group said during our discussions’

98

1

1

‘I have understood almost everything that was presented by the speakers’

95

4

1

‘I have had enough information to participate effectively’

91

5

4

‘The information I have received has been fair and balanced between different view points’

78

16

6

‘The assembly has helped me clarify my views about how to reach net zero’

96

1

3

‘I have learned a lot during the assembly about how UK can achieve net zero by 2050’

95

3

2

‘My fellow participants have respected what I had to say, even when they didn’t agree with me’

94

5

0

‘I have had ample opportunity in the small group discussions to express my views’

95

2

3

‘Assemblies like this should be used more often to inform government and parliament decision-making’

90

7

3

The interim results also suggest that taking part in the assembly has impacted positively on assembly members' appetite and confidence to engage in political decision-making . 88% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that they 'feel more confident to engage in political decision-making as a result of being involved in this citizens' assembly.' The same percentage 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 'taking part in this citizens' assembly has made me want to be more involved in other aspects of decision-making.'

"Like everyone else, I really enjoyed the entire experience, and I am sorry that it has now come to an end.  It was a once in a lifetime opportunity, and I am truly grateful to have been given the chance to take part."

Assembly member

"Concern about climate change is as high as ever, and it's clear we all need to play our part to achieve the net zero emissions target that was passed into UK law by Parliament last year. This is why I welcome the work of Climate Assembly UK, a great example of parliamentarians engaging with the public to help influence their work and proposals for action. I am very grateful to the assembly members for their time. I look forward to hearing the outcome of their discussions – and to chairing House of Commons debates on a topic that is so relevant to us all."

 Right Honourable Sir Lindsay Hoyle, Speaker of the House of Commons

The rest of this report recounts the assembly's detailed and considered view of its recommended path to net zero by 2050. Taken together the recommendations provide a internally consistent and coherent vision, and are designed to be considered as a whole.

Underpinning principles

Assembly members' first decision focussed on the principles that should underpin the UK's path to net zero. They agreed twenty-five underpinning principles, then used a vote to prioritise them.

The principles form part of the assembly's recommendations to government and Parliament. Assembly members also used them to inform their own work.

What did the assembly consider?

All assembly members took part in the discussions about underpinning principles, which took place at the first assembly weekend. They drew on their own experiences, values and views, as well as evidence from the assembly's first three panels of speakers.50These panels covered an introduction to climate change, and different perspectives on overarching ethical, practical and strategic questions about the path to net zero. All the speakers gave presentations to the assembly and were then questioned by its members.

How did the assembly reach its decisions?

Assembly members began their decision-making process after the first two panels of speakers. They started by considering individually how they would finish the sentence:

"The UK's path to net zero by 2050 should be underpinned by the principles of…."

They then discussed their views in small groups at their tables, with each table agreeing their four priority responses. These responses had to, between them, represent the range of opinions at the table.

While assembly members listened to and questioned the third panel of speakers, facilitators took these responses and grouped similar ideas together to form a draft ballot paper, overseen by an official from Parliament. They presented the draft back to assembly members, who had the opportunity to note any omissions or suggest changes. Facilitators then made these amends. Tables also discussed and added additional ideas based on the evidence they heard from Panel Three.

The final ballot paper included twenty-five principles that assembly members believe should underpin the path to net zero.

Prioritised principles

The vote asked assembly members to prioritise the twenty-five principles that they had developed. Each assembly member could vote for the eight options that they saw as the highest priority.

It is important to note that the results of the vote therefore show priorities not levels of support. A lack of votes does not necessarily signal that assembly members disagreed with an idea, just that they saw it as less important.

The results of the vote were as follows.

Principles prioritised by over half of all assembly members
  1. Informing and educating everyone (the public, industry, individuals and government) – 74 votes
  2. Fairness within the UK, including for the most vulnerable (affordability, jobs, UK regions, incentives and rewards) in actions, not just words – 65 votes
  3. Leadership from government that is clear, proactive, accountable and consistent (cross-party consenus) – 63 votes
  4. Protecting and restoring the natural world – 59 votes
Principles prioritised by over a third of all assembly members
  1. Ensuring solutions are future-proofed and sustainable for the future – 45 votes
  2. A joined up approach across the system and all levels of society (working together, collaborating, and sharing) – 40 votes
  3. Long-term planning and a phased transition – 39 votes
  4. Urgency – 37 votes
  5. Support for sustainable growth (including pioneering innovation) – 37 votes
Additional principles agreed by the assembly
  1. Local community engagement embedded in national solutions – 33 votes
  2. Think about our impact globally and be a global leader – 32 votes
  3. Use of mix of natural and technological solutions – 32 votes
  4. Transparency and honesty – 32 votes
  5. Underpinned by scientific evidence and focused on the big wins – 29 votes
  6. Equality of responsibility for individuals, government and business – 28 votes
  7. Achievable – 27 votes
  8. Everyone should have a voice (e.g. via local representation and participation, or in holding government to account) – 27 votes
  9. Regular independent checks on progress – 27 votes
  10. Fairness for the most vulnerable globally (less developed countries) – 24 votes
  11. Making the most of potential benefits for everyone (e.g. health, wellbeing and the economy) – 24 votes
  12. Enabling and not restricting individual choice – 23 votes
  13. Protect the UK economy, including from global competition – 18 votes
  14. Compromise about changing lifestyles – 15 votes
  15. Those who bear the most responsibility should act – 13 votes
  16. Not negatively impacting other institutions – 4 votes

The top nine principles – those prioritised by over a third of assembly members – were displayed in the assembly rooms throughout the remaining weekends. We also gave assembly members hard copies of the full vote results to refer to during their discussions.

Assembly members returned to these principles, and considerations related to them, throughout the rest of the assembly.

Above : Assembly members discuss the issues.

How we travel on land

Summary of recommendations

  1. Assembly members identified 18 considerations that they would like government and Parliament to bear in mind when looking at surface transport and the path to net zero. These included that solutions must be accessible and affordable to all sections of society, the need to "help create massive change at an individual level", and a wish for cross-party action.
  2. Assembly members aimed to minimise restrictions on travel and lifestyles, placing the emphasis on shifting to electric vehicles and improving public transport, rather than on large reductions in car use.
  3. Assembly members recommended a future for surface transport in the UK that includes:
    • A ban on the sale of new petrol, diesel and hybrid cars by 2030–2035;
    • A reduction in the amount we use cars by an average of 2–5% per decade;
    • Improved public transport.
  4. In terms of how the UK should make these changes, assembly members recommended a wide range of policies aimed at moving quickly to low carbon vehicles, increasing the use of public and active transport, and discouraging car ownership and use. These included:
    • Government investment in low carbon buses and trains;
    • Quickly stop selling the most polluting vehicles;
    • Adding new bus routes and more frequent services;
    • Making public transport cheaper;
    • Bringing public transport back under government control;
    • Grants for businesses and people to buy low carbon cars;
    • Localisation;
    • Investing in cycling and scootering facilities;
    • Increasing investment to make buses faster and more reliable;
    • Car scrappage scheme.
  5. As well as the wish to minimise restrictions on lifestyles, assembly members' rationale for their decisions included points around the speed of change, feasibility, practicalities, cost (both personal and overall), and co-benefits such as improved air quality, reduced congestion and impacts on local areas and high streets. Assembly members consistently raised the importance of accessibility and affordability, stressing the need to avoid negative consequences for rural areas, mental health and isolation, people with a disability, and those on low incomes.

How we travel on land

The ways we travel on land are collectively known as 'surface transport'. Surface transport includes cars, vans and lorries, as well as public transport like buses, coaches and trains. It also includes 'active transport' – for example, when we walk, cycle or scoot.

Surface transport accounts for 70% of the UK's total greenhouse gas emissions from transport51 and 23% of the UK's greenhouse gas emissions overall.52 Most of these emissions come from cars, with just 5% arising from public transport.

Proportion of greenhouse gases from each type of surface transport (2017)

59% Cars

18% Heavy goods vehicles

17% Vans

3% Buses and coaches

2% Rail

1% Other

Figure 1: Proportion of greenhouse gases from each type of surface transport (2017)53

Surface transport includes both passenger or 'personal' transport, and freight. Personal transport is what people use to travel for pleasure, for everyday activities (like going shopping) and for almost all work. Freight is transport used to move goods. It includes goods for everything, including farming, industry, shops and online shopping deliveries. It also includes transport used for services, for example the vans used by decorators, plumbers or to deliver the post.

Climate Assembly UK considered personal transport only. It did not look at freight. This followed guidance from Parliament that, if there was not time to consider both, its committees most wanted to hear assembly members' views on personal transport. Personal surface transport accounts for 15% of the UK's greenhouse gas emissions overall.

What did the assembly consider?

Thirty-six assembly members considered the topic of surface transport in-depth. We selected these assembly members from the assembly as a whole using random stratified sampling. This ensured that they remained reflective of the wider UK population in terms of both demographics54 and their level of concern about climate change.

These assembly members heard a wide range of views both on what the future of surface transport could look like for the UK, and how we might move towards that future. They had the opportunity to question each speaker55 in detail. These evidence sessions took place at weekend two of the assembly.

Assembly members spent weekend three of the assembly discussing the evidence they had heard and their own views in-depth, before reaching conclusions on three separate areas:

  1. Considerations: the overarching considerations that government and Parliament should bear in mind when making decisions about surface transport and the path to net zero;
  2. Futures : what the future of surface transport in the UK should look like;
  3. Policy options: how the UK should move toward this future.

Assembly members also had the opportunity to discuss and add anything else they wanted to say to government and Parliament about surface transport and the path to net zero. Assembly members' views on the implications of Covid-19 for this topic are touched on in Chapter 10.

A. Considerations

Assembly members reached their first decisions on surface transport by discussing their answers to the following question:

What considerations should government and Parliament bear in mind when making decisions about surface transport and the path to net zero?

Assembly members thought about their answers to this question individually. They then discussed their views in small groups, with each table agreeing their five top considerations. These top considerations had to, between them, represent the range of views at the table.

Facilitators took the top considerations from each table and grouped similar options together to create a list on which assembly members could vote. They checked this list back with assembly members to make sure they had accurately reflected their views. This included making any necessary adjustments. Each assembly member could then vote for the four options that they felt to be most important.

The results were as follows. The wording of the considerations in the table is either word for word what assembly members wrote on their option cards or, where facilitators combined similar options from several tables, how we described the options to assembly members prior to the vote. Where applicable, we have also included in italics further detail on what assembly members wrote on their option cards.

RankConsideration% assembly members who chose it as a priority

1

Solutions must be accessible and affordable to all sections of society

56

2

Help create massive change at an individual level, including:

  • Carrot and stick approach
  • Education
  • Information
  • Be prepared to make unpopular decisions

Some assembly members talked about the need to “enable behaviour change AND get a wider public understanding of [the] imposed chang[e] through public education/information.” Others felt that “education is critical to demonstrate the co-benefits to society such as health” or suggested “public education videos.”

47

3

Make decisions in a way that means they cannot be changed by every new government (cross-party support)

39

4

The polluter pays

Some assembly members noted specifically that this applied to “companies that have the most negative impact”, while others stated more generally that “those who pollute should pay more.” Some advocated “introduc[ing] laws/regulation as soon as possible.”

36

5

Check and be careful about side effects and unintended consequences (moral, ethical and environmental implications, and the effect on the rest of the world)

Some assembly members noted particular risks around new technologies and mining.

33

=6

Invest in and develop public transport/infrastructure to make it accessible

Some assembly members stated that “transport options should be accessible to everyone” and “regular.”

25

=6

Greater investment in R D from Government and private companies for both new and existing technologies (sooner rather than later)

Some assembly members suggested that new technologies could be “better and safer” or suggested that “the Government[‘s] role is to enable and incentivise the adoption of new technologies.”

25

8

Invest in and develop public transport/infrastructure to be affordable (free?) for people using it

22

9

Long-term consequences of science, claims, decisions, policies assessed by an independent regulator

19

=10

Protect jobs and industry – and support them to transition

Some assembly members noted that “transition to low carbon options risks losing jobs which needs to be managed by initiatives to re-train [the] workforce.”

17

=10

Dunkirk example

Note: This referred back to a case study presented by one of the speakers, Lynn Sloman, during Weekend Two. It showed the impact of introducing free bus travel in Dunkirk in autumn 2018. Bus trips on some routes increased by 85%, and half of the new bus users previously travelled by car.

17

12

Realism of planned change

14

=13

Joined up public transport planning with service level reliability

11

=13

Long-term and phased transition in a way/manner that benefits people and causes minimal disruption to their lives

11

=13

Charging infrastructure (especially for high-density housing) and ensure it works – e.g. adapters, charge points etc

11

16

Safe, more and good infrastructure for cycling

8

17

In considering cost think about what is reasonable for individuals, governments and business and both users and non-users of particular transport

6

18

Enable maintaining quality of life for all (including people with disabilities, rural communities)

3

Note: It is worth noting that considerations specifically around improving public transport – ranked 6, 8, 10 and 13 above – together received 27 votes, which would have placed them first. However it is possible that individual assembly members voted for more than one option within this group, which is why we have treated them separately.

B. Futures

After deciding on their most important considerations, assembly members moved on to look at what the future of surface transport should be for the UK.

To aid them in this process, the Expert Leads presented assembly members with three scenarios:

  1. Fast action to change the cars we drive;
  2. Changing the cars we drive and how much we use them;
  3. Reducing the amount travelled across all transport types.

Together these scenarios covered a broad range of views about what could happen to surface transport to help the UK meet its 2050 net zero target.

Assembly members discussed each of the scenarios or 'possible futures' in turn, before voting on them by secret ballot.

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each possible future in turn.

B.1 Fast action to change the cars we drive

The emphasis of this possible future was on changing the types of car that we drive. It would involve:

Assembly members discussed this possible future in small groups. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members attached conditions to their support for this possible future, suggesting that:

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received significant support from assembly members. Please see below for the results of the vote.

B.2 Changing the cars we drive and how much we use them

This scenario would involve a combination of changing the types of car that we drive and reducing the amount we drive. It would include:

Assembly members discussed this possible future in small groups. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this future, stating that:

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received significant support from assembly members. Please see below for the results of the vote.

B.3 Reducing the amount travelled across all transport types

This scenario places the emphasis on reducing the total amount we travel, including significant reductions in car use. It would involve:

Assembly members discussed this possible future in small groups. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received very limited support from assembly members. Please see below for the results of the vote.

General comments

Some assembly members made cross-cutting comments about all the possible futures:

Vote results

Assembly members voted on the possible futures by secret ballot. The ballot paper asked them to rank the possible futures in their order of preference.

Figure 2: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Fast action to change the cars we drive 49%

Changing the cars we drive and how much we use them 34%

Reducing the amount travelled across all transport types 17%

Figure 2: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

The votes were counted in two ways:

'Fast action to change the cars we drive' received most first preference votes. Assembly members gave two reasons more than any others for this choice on their ballot papers. The first was around the lack of restriction on travel and lifestyles. Comments included:

"We should be free to travel when and where we like – options 2 and 3 are restricting."

"The less government led social engineering the better. Restricting or imposing individual behaviour undermines the liberal principle that everyone has the right to make choices and self-determination."

"It focuses on introducing greener solutions but without taking the choice or car owners' independence away."

"Least restrictions on mobility (standard of life)."

The other frequently given rationale was the speed of change. Comments included:

"If we are going down this route (a must) then [the] quicker the better. Will be "hiccups" therefore [we need] time to "mend" problems."

"This guarantees fast action that I believe is required."

"The faster the better in spite of it being challenging. But don't force a reduction in travel, [stop] polluting transport only."

"Rapid movement to electrified (low CO2 ) transport."

Some assembly members' rationale was multifaceted. For example:

"Fast decisive, immediate action – no time wasted planning on building new things so we can quickly start to reduce emissions and then focus on other things. Realistic, not a drastic change that is hard for everyone to adjust to. Benefits everyone – air quality improves, money saved on cars."

"(I don't actually think any option seems completely viable, but…) I think action has to be taken on current cars ASAP (although don't necessarily agree with hybrid). If everyone could afford electric vehicles then this wouldn't prevent people travelling as they currently do – ergo standard of living shouldn't be compromised. Concerned other options don't give enough time to fix other transport options. Also don't believe people will reduce the amount they travel by car."

Other reasons highlighted by one or two assembly members included support for the take up of electric buses and trains, support for banning SUVs, a suggestion that this future has fewer downsides than the alternatives, and a belief that the "health benefits for people who have asthma would be important." One assembly member commented that "social change is much harder than technological change."

Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

Fast action to change the cars we drive 42

Changing the cars we drive and how much we use them 45

Reducing the amount travelled across all transport types 18

Figure 3: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

'Fast action to change the cars we drive' also did well in the Borda count, but the future that scored highest by a small margin was 'changing the cars we drive and how much we use them'. Assembly members who chose this latter option as their first preference gave a range of reasons for their choice.

There was a feeling amongst some assembly members that this option presented a balanced middle ground that was more viable and less radical :

"Most viable option – middle ground – more comprehensive approach that considers reducing and banning petrol/diesel and offers improvement and alternatives to how we can travel (instead of driving)."

"There needs to be a balance and this seems to be the best balance."

"Less radical compared to other options. More practical and positive."

Others talked about the impact this future would have on emissions and congestion :

"I think that by reducing car use we will reduce carbon emissions and maybe … focus on only using transport as a way from getting from A to B rather than being lazy!"

"It will cut emissions and have health benefits."

"Less cars, less pollution, less congestion."

Some assembly members said that they felt this future was less restrictive and offered more choice :

"I'm not supportive of restricting travel, improving public transport so citizens have more options is a positive step rather than an authoritarian move towards dictatorship I'm not supportive of."

"The perception of greater personal freedom to choose the most appropriate mode of transport for any given journey."

Other comments included that this future "gives people time to adjust, whilst still taking positive action", or that it "encourages public transport improvements and allows more time for the charging infrastructure to be sufficient for the uptake required."

'Reducing the amount travelled across all transport types' scored poorly in terms of both first preference votes and the Borda count. It was assembly members' least preferred option by some distance.

One assembly member abstained from the votes, stating that the options were "not comprehensive and not objective."

Futures – conclusions

Taken together, assembly members' discussions and votes suggest a future involving:

Assembly members' discussions show that many felt it was important to minimise restrictions on travel and lifestyles. They often saw a quick ban on the sale of new petrol, diesel and hybrid cars as the best way to do this: people could continue to travel by car as long as the car was electric. Some assembly members also raised doubts about whether greater reductions in car use were feasible in terms of behaviour change. For a smaller number of assembly members the least restrictive future was one that gave them the greatest choice of transport modes.

Speed of change was also an important factor for some assembly members. Those who supported an earlier ban on the sale petrol, diesel and hybrid cars felt "the faster, the better". Others felt that a slightly later ban within the 2030–2035 range would give people longer to adapt and allow more time to prepare the necessary infrastructure.

Assembly members saw co-benefits, particularly around improvements in air quality and reductions in congestion as positives. They also raised a range of concerns around affordability,  including the need to not "price people out of essential travel." Some assembly members particularly noted the need to avoid negative consequences for rural areas and people with a disability, as well as around mental health and isolation.

C. Policy options

After considering what the future of surface transport in the UK could look like, assembly members moved on to consider how we might get there. Specifically they looked at policy options in three areas:

  1. Moving quickly to low carbon vehicles;
  2. Discouraging car ownership and use;
  3. Increasing the use of public and active transport.

For each of these areas, the Expert Leads recapped and explained potential policy options. Assembly members discussed these ideas in their groups before voting by secret ballot. They were also able to note additional suggestions for steps that could be taken.

C.1 Moving quickly to low carbon vehicles

Assembly members looked at seven options for moving quickly to low carbon vehicles:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Quickly stop selling the most polluting cars

This would involve telling car companies that they could not sell their most polluting cars in the UK from a certain date. The government has already told car companies that they will not be able to sell new petrol and diesel cars in future. The date of this ban was originally 2040 when it was announced in 2019, but was brought forward to 2035 in February 2020.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about a quick stop to selling the most polluting cars.

Pros

Cons

Grants for businesses and people to buy low carbon cars

Since 2011, the government has given car dealerships money to discount the price of brand-new electric and hydrogen cars. In the budget in March 2020, the plug-in car grant was extended for another three years, but the amount available per car was reduced to £3,000 from £3,500, and it is only available for pure battery electric cars that cost £50,000 or less.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about grants for businesses and people to buy low carbon cars.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members also noted conditions around their support for this policy option, or additional ideas:

Car scrappage scheme

This would involve incentivising owners of older, high CO2 vehicles to scrap them, by offering cash or credit towards electric cars, bikes or public transport season tickets. The amount people received towards an electric car is likely to be around £2,000.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about a car scrappage scheme.

Pros

Cons

As with the previous policy option, some assembly members suggested that the grant should "relate … to people's income."

Advertising restrictions on certain cars

Advertising restrictions would make it illegal for car manufacturers to advertise their most polluting cars.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about advertising restrictions on certain cars.

Pros

Cons

Access to longer range cars for electric car owners

A scheme like this would mean that, when a customer buys an all-electric car, it would be compulsory for the car company to loan a longer-range vehicle to them for several days a year.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about access to longer range cars for electric car owners.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members asked "would there be a scheme for 2nd hand EV?"

Government investment in low carbon buses and/or trains

The government already subsidises some electric and hydrogen buses. There is also currently a programme to electrify the railways, but it has recently slowed.56

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about government investment in low carbon buses and/or trains.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said they would support this policy option if we "move quickly to low carbon vehicles", or "if [it's] quicker (speed)." Others noted that "if Government/Parliament implement public transport to run for longer and at later times people would use it more."

Lowering speed limits on dual carriage ways and motorways

This would involve lowering the speed limit for cars on roads where it is 70mph to 60mph.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about lowering speed limits on dual carriageways and motorways.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said this policy option would need to be accompanied by "advice and education on how to drive more efficiently." Others said the premise should be that "EVs are run on 100% (90%) green energy by 2030."

Additional ideas

During their discussions, assembly members noted a range of additional points and suggestions:

"You need to address [electricity] supply before EVs"

"You must get people on your side"

"Need [for] education"

"Make city centres car free (with free public transport to replace it)"

"Congestion charging"

"Synthetic fuels"

"Wealth tax on high end polluters/vehicles"

"Legislate that businesses (such as Uber, car clubs, hire cars etc) must only use EVs going forward and legislate that going forward all delivery vehicles must be EVs"

"More criteria to get a driver's licence less people, alter behaviour"

"Car scrappage scheme to support the purchase of 2nd hand EVs."

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on the seven policy options for moving quickly to low carbon vehicles. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Quickly stop selling the most polluting cars

63% Strongly Agree

23% Agree

3% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Grants for businesses and people to buy low carbon cars

31% Strongly Agree

43% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Car scrappage scheme

37% Strongly Agree

29% Agree

28% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Advertising restrictions on certain cars

29% Strongly Agree

29% Agree

29% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Access to longer range cars for electric car owners

23% Strongly Agree

9% Agree

34% Don’t mind or unsure

23% Disagree

11% Strongly disagree

Government investment in low carbon buses and/or trains

77% Strongly Agree

14% Agree

3% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Lowering speed limits on dual carriageways and motorways

23% Strongly Agree

23% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

31% Disagree

14% Strongly disagree

Figure 4: Moving quickly to low carbon vehicles: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Two policy options stood out for their popularity amongst assembly members. Large majorities of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 'government investment in low carbon buses and/or trains' (91%) and 'quickly stop selling the most polluting vehicles' (86%) should be part of how the UK gets to net zero.57

Two options also stood out for their lack of popularity. Under half of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 'access to longer range cars for electric car owners' (32%) and 'lowering speed limits on dual carriageways and motorways' (46%) should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. There was also significant opposition to both measures, with 34% and 45% of assembly members 'strong disagreeing' or 'disagreeing' that they should be used. Although a large number of assembly members (34%) said they 'didn't mind' or 'were unsure' about access to longer range vehicles, these results do suggest it was less popular than other options.

Smaller majorities of assembly members supported the three other policy options. In order of assembly members' preference, these were:

The preference voting largely reinforced the results of the first vote, but provided two additional insights. The results suggest that:

'Access to longer range cars' and 'lowering speed limits' again scored more poorly than the other policy options.

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Quickly stop selling the most polluting cars 53%

Government investment in low carbon buses and/or trains 24%

Grants for businesses and people to buy low carbon cars 15%

Car scrappage scheme 9%

Advertising restrictions on certain cars 0%

Lowering speed limits on dual carriageways and motorways 0%

Access to longer range cars for electric car owners 0%

Figure 5: Moving quickly to low carbon vehicles: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Quickly stop selling the most polluting cars 171

Government investment in low carbon buses and/or trains 144

Grants for businesses and people to buy low carbon cars 136

Car scrappage scheme 109

Advertising restrictions on certain cars 59

Lowering speed limits on dual carriageways and motorways 54

Access to longer range cars for electric car owners 41

Figure 6: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

C.2 Discouraging car ownership and use

Assembly members looked at eight options for discouraging car ownership and use:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Closing roads to cars

This would involve restricting cars in certain lanes, roads or zones. It could eventually mean that cars are not allowed in most town centres. There could also be temporary closures, such as regular car free days.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about closing roads to cars.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said this policy option is "only good if transport infrastructure is good."

Charging to use the roads

This would involve charging drivers according to (a) which roads they use at which times of day; and (b) how polluting their car is. This could be done either nationally or locally.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about charging to use the roads.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that would need to be met for them to support this policy, or additional suggestions for how it could work:

Increasing fuel duty

This would involve increasing fuel tax on petrol and diesel. The money raised could be used to improve alternatives to travelling by car, although this isn't the case at the moment.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about increasing fuel duty.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that would need to be met for them to support the policy, or additional suggestions for how it could work:

Some assembly members said it should "provide more incentive for electric car usage" or was "okay on [the] worst polluters."

Local business levy

This would involve charging businesses for each parking space that they own, or for each person that they employ. The money would be used to improve alternatives to travelling by car in that area.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about a local business levy.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said they would support the policy "as long as it [the levy] is relative to business size."

Reducing parking space

This would involve reducing parking space through double yellow lines, residential parking zones, removing car parks, making car parks smaller and/or liming parking space for new houses.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about reducing parking space.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said decision-makers would need to be "careful how you apply [the policy] – don't conflate [it] with revenue raising" or that it "could increase the use of public transport (need better infrastructure)."

Car sharing

This would involve getting more people to share vehicles through 'match-making' apps and incentives like carpool lanes and exemptions from parking charges. This may require some financial support for businesses and local authorities to set up and operate the software, and to develop and enforce car pool lanes and car parking spaces.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about car sharing.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly said they would support this policy "if organised by a company – they could pay." Similarly, others said it "needs to be well organised" or that we "need to use apps/methods so [it's] organised."

Car clubs

This would involve pay-as-you-go renting of cars that are available throughout your area. These would be booked through an app and could be used for short periods of time. At the moment car clubs tend to be run by commercial operators. They do however need local authority funds to dedicate car parking spaces to them, promote them, and provide some subsidy for electric vehicles.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about car clubs.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members commented that it "needs to be affordable" or that it "works better in some areas than others e.g. urban vs rural."

Localisation

This would involve changing regulation to ensure that new houses can only be built with good public transport links. It would also involve including or putting back into local areas services such as post offices, local shops, health centres and schools.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about localisation.

Pros

Cons

Additional ideas

During their discussions on discouraging car ownership and use, some assembly members noted additional points or suggestions:

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on the eight policy options for discouraging car ownership and use. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Closing roads to cars

25% Strongly Agree

28% Agree

25% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

11% Strongly disagree

Charging to use the roads

28% Strongly Agree

28% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

22% Disagree

17% Strongly disagree

Increase fuel duty

28% Strongly Agree

14% Agree

17% Don’t mind or unsure

25% Disagree

17% Strongly disagree

Local business levy

17% Strongly Agree

14% Agree

19% Don’t mind or unsure

25% Disagree

25% Strongly disagree

Reducing parking space

14% Strongly Agree

8% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

36% Disagree

31% Strongly disagree

Car sharing

8% Strongly Agree

36% Agree

19% Don’t mind or unsure

25% Disagree

11% Strongly disagree

Car clubs

31% Strongly Agree

28% Agree

31% Don’t mind or unsure

8% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Localisation

33% Strongly Agree

39% Agree

8% Don’t mind or unsure

17% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Figure 7: Discouraging car ownership and use: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Overall, these policy options were less popular amongst assembly members than those for moving quickly to low carbon vehicles. In general, levels of agreement were lower and levels of disagreement significantly higher. Many assembly members had been clear when discussing the future of surface transport in the UK (see Section B above) that they wanted to minimise restrictions on travel and lifestyles. Their comparative dislike of policy options for discouraging car ownership and use is consistent with that view.

A majority of assembly members supported four of the policy options for discouraging car ownership and use. In assembly members' order of preference these were:

Only a minority of assembly members supported the other policy options. The least popular was 'reducing parking space' ; a sizeable majority of assembly members (67%) strongly disagreed or disagreed with this proposal.

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Closing roads to cars 19%

Charging to use the roads 19%

Increase fuel duty 8%

Local business levy 11%

Reducing parking space 3%

Car sharing 3%

Car clubs 14%

Localisation 22%

Figure 8: Discouraging car ownership and use: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Closing roads to cars 163

Charging to use the roads 135

Increase fuel duty 108

Local business levy 99

Reducing parking space 83

Car sharing 113

Car clubs 144

Localisation 163

Figure 9: Discouraging car ownership and use: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

The same four policy options scored most highly in the preference voting, with 'localisation' and 'closing roads to cars' jointly topping the Borda count. These results suggest that 'closing roads to cars' is more acceptable to a greater number of assembly members than 'charging to use the roads' or 'car clubs'.

C.3 Increasing the use of public and active transport

Assembly members looked at seven options for increasing the use of public and active transport:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Adding new routes and more frequent services

This would involve increasing relevant government funds paid to local authorities, so that the latter could add new routes and/or provide more buses on existing routes. There are many services that private bus companies will not operate because they are not profitable. Government funding to plug this gap has been cut in recent years.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about adding new routes and more frequent services.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members advocated "research [on] where routes are most needed" or said they would support this idea "if bus routes run earlier and later." Others said it "would only be worth doing if price of travel reduces."

Increasing investment to make buses faster and more reliable

This would involve investment in bus priority lanes and better interchanges such as bus stations.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about increasing investment to make buses faster and more reliable.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members commented that implementation would be "reliant on develop[ing] infrastructure."

On-demand buses

This would involve buses in rural areas and smaller towns that you can call through an app or phone. These buses would pick you up from where you are and drop you where you need to go, or to another bus or rail interchange.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about on-demand buses.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said it would be "good if you can call up as well (older people like to phone)" or felt "there will be an element of trial and error."

Making public transport cheaper

This would involve discounted or free buses or trains.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about making public transport cheaper.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said they would support this policy "if [the] infrastructure is there/readily available."

Bringing public transport back under government control

This would involve national government, local government or groups of local authorities controlling bus, tram and/or train services.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about bringing public transport back under government control.

Pros

Cons

Investing in cycling and scootering facilities

This would involve investment in cycle lanes, cycle parking, free cycling lessons and shared 'pay as you go' bikes. It would also include segregated cycle lanes and cycle lanes outside urban areas.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about investing in cycling and scootering facilities.

Pros

Cons

Grants to buy electric bikes

This could involve both a UK national grant scheme and local authorities offering grants to enable experimentation with different approaches. Grants of about £250 per e-bike are effective in other countries.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about grants to buy electric bikes.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said the "grant has to be large enough to make a difference."

Additional ideas

During their discussions about increasing the use of public and active transport, some assembly members noted additional suggestions:

"Legislate for all schools to teach cycling"

"Make more guided bus and rail"61

"Sensor systems to control/manage train routes" allowing for a greater bunching of trains and a reduction in delays. This would "replace any pollution if [the trains are] electric!"

"Smart buses" that have more sensors, for example to avoid the bunching of services or automatically count passengers to know if extra buses are needed;

"One ticket system with no penalty"

"There must be subsidies for low income areas and people"

Others commented "this is all part of a joined up approach to transport – we like them all, so ranking [them on our ballot papers] is hard."

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on the seven policy options for increasing the use of public and active transport. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

Assembly members supported a wide range of policies to increase the use of public and active transport. This is consistent with their earlier preferences for improvements in these areas (see Sections A and B above).

Large majorities of assembly members 'strongly agreed' that four of the policies should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Levels of 'strong agreement' with these policies were high (at least 50% in all cases):

A majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with the introduction of two further policies:

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Adding new routes and more frequent services

50% Strongly Agree

36% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Increasing investment to make buses faster and more reliable

44% Strongly Agree

22% Agree

25% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

On-demand buses

28% Strongly Agree

31% Agree

19% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

11% Strongly disagree

Making public transport cheaper

64% Strongly Agree

19% Agree

33% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Bringing public transport back under government control

58% Strongly Agree

17% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

8% Strongly disagree

Investing in cycling and scootering facilities

53% Strongly Agree

17% Agree

22% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Grants to buy electric bikes

28% Strongly Agree

14% Agree

36% Don’t mind or unsure

14% Disagree

8% Strongly disagree

Figure 10: Increasing the use of public and active transport: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

The only policy option that a majority of assembly members failed to support was 'grants to buy electric bikes.' Only 22% of assembly members 'disagreed' or 'strongly disagreed' with this policy. However, a large percentage (36%) 'didn't mind' or were 'unsure', leaving the percentage of those 'agreeing' or 'strongly agreeing' at just 42%.

The ranking votes shed some additional light on assembly members' views: all the policies about public transport (except on-demand buses) scored more highly than those about active transport.

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Adding new routes and more frequent services 8%

Increasing investment to make buses faster and more reliable 8%

On-demand buses 6%

Making public transport cheaper 33%

Bringing public transport back under government control 31%

Investing in cycling and scootering facilities 14%

Grants to buy electric bikes 0%

Figure 11: Increasing the use of public and active transport: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Adding new routes and more frequent services 133

Increasing investment to make buses faster and more reliable 110

On-demand buses 80

Making public transport cheaper 160

Bringing public transport back under government control 134

Investing in cycling and scootering facilities 97

Grants to buy electric bikes 44

Figure 12: Increasing the use of public and active transport: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Policy options – conclusions

Assembly members' policy recommendations reinforced their earlier preferences. Assembly members had already indicated support for moving quickly to low carbon vehicles and improving public transport. Their broad support for policies in these areas was consistent with that view (please see the table below).

Conversely, many assembly members had been clear that they wanted to minimise restrictions on travel and lifestyles. Their comparative lack of support for policy options to discourage car ownership and use reaffirms that preference.

Policy optionPolicy objective% strongly agree or agree% strongly disagree or disagree

Government investment in low carbon buses and trains

Moving quickly to low carbon vehicles

91%

6%

Quickly stop selling the most polluting vehicles

Moving quickly to low carbon vehicles

86%

11%

Adding new bus routes and more frequent services

Increasing the use of public and active transport

86%

9%

Making public transport cheaper

Increasing the use of public and active transport

83%

14%

Bringing public transport back under government control

Increasing the use of public and active transport

75%

11%

Grants for businesses and people to buy low carbon cars

Moving quickly to low carbon vehicles

74%

9%

Localisation

Discouraging car ownership and use

72%

20%

Investing in cycling and scootering facilities

Increasing the use of public and active transport

70%

9%

Increasing investment to make buses faster and more reliable

Increasing the use of public and active transport

66%

9%

Car scrappage scheme

Moving quickly to low carbon vehicles

66%

9%

On-demand buses

Increasing the use of public and active transport

59%

22%

Car clubs

Discouraging car ownership and use

59%

11%

Advertising restrictions on the most polluting cars

Moving quickly to low carbon vehicles

58%

15%

Charging to use the roads

Discouraging car ownership and use

56%

39%

Closing roads to cars

Discouraging car ownership and use

53%

23%

% Assembly members who agreed or disagreed with policy options

Note: this table only includes policy options that at least 50% of assembly members supported

On moving quickly to low carbon vehicles, assembly members were particularly supportive of options to 'quickly stop selling the most polluting vehicles' and 'government investment in low carbon buses and/or trains'. There was also significant support for 'grants for businesses and people to buy low carbon cars'. Assembly members did not support 'access to longer range cars for electric car owners' or 'lowering speed limits on dual carriageways or motorways.' Assembly members' rationale for their decisions included factors around:

Assembly members' preferred options for increasing the use of public and active transport were: 'making public transport cheaper' ; 'bringing public transport back under government control' ; and 'adding new bus routes and more frequent services'. They also backed the introduction of other policy initiatives. In general, assembly members were more supportive of policies to improve public – as opposed to active – transport. Assembly members did not support grants to buy electric bikes. Assembly members' rationale for their decisions around public and active transport included a wish to see increased use of public transport, and considerations around cost (both personal and overall) and accessibility. For individual policies, impacts around safety, health and the ability to plan a better service were also important.

As already noted, assembly members were overall less supportive of policies to discourage car ownership and use. However a large majority of assembly members (72%) supported one policy option, 'localisation', with 'closing roads to cars' also performing well in the Borda count. Small majorities of assembly members supported two further policies, 'charging to use the roads' and 'car clubs'. Assembly members' rationale included whether or not they thought policies would benefit local areas including local high streets, and their potential impacts on people with low incomes, who live in rural areas and/or who have a disability.

D. Anything else to tell government or Parliament

At the end of weekend three, assembly members had the opportunity to add any further thoughts on surface transport and the path to net zero. A small number of assembly members chose to add additional points.

Some assembly members talked about the need for education and information :

"Generic education in schools about carbon neutrality – kids now [are the] adults of 2030"

"Public information booklet – why important to take action and what"

"Focus on the provenance of information"

Others focussed on synthetic fuels:

"Consider other power sources apart from electricity (e.g. synthetic fuels)"

"Think long-term i.e. is electricity really the best? Should we go hydrogen/synthetic now? If freight going that way – don't have 2 tier system – go for least disruptive tech"

"We have been demonising the wrong thing, it is fossil fuels that are the demon and yet we didn't spent much time discussing alternative fuels. People like me love their cars…. Some of my grandchildren are learning to drive and love the experience. […] There is no need to take this away from people."

Others suggested a need to "consider implications for electricity generation/stability and power cuts", provide "incentives to buy 2nd hand electric vehicles" and "address Amazon deliveries."

Conclusions

Assembly members expressed clear and consistent views about surface transport and the path to net zero.

Assembly members' aimed to minimise restrictions on travel and lifestyles, placing the emphasis on shifting to electric vehicles and improving public transport, rather than on large reductions in car use.

In terms of what the future of surface transport should look like in the UK, assembly members recommended:

In terms of how the UK should make these changes, assembly members considered policies aimed at moving quickly to low carbon vehicles, increasing public and active transport, and discouraging car ownership and use. A majority of assembly members backed62 fifteen policies:

Overall assembly members were less supportive of policies to discourage car ownership and use, in-line with their vision for the future of surface transport in the UK.

As well as the wish to minimise restrictions on lifestyles, assembly members' rationale for their policy decisions included points around the speed of change, feasibility, practicalities, cost (both personal and overall), and co-benefits. They saw potential co-benefits as including improved air quality, reduced congestion and positive impacts for local areas and their high streets.

Assembly members also consistently raised the importance of accessibility and affordability, stressing the need to avoid negative consequences for rural areas, people with a disability, and those on low incomes, as well as for mental health and isolation.

Assembly members' list of key considerations for government and Parliament to bear in mind when looking at surface transport (see Section A) provides an overarching framework within which to view the assembly's decisions. It also includes a number of additional recommendations – for example, around information and education, who should pay for the changes needed, and avoiding potential side effects .

How we travel by air

Summary of recommendations

  1. Assembly members identified 14 considerations that they would like government and Parliament to bear in mind when looking at air travel and the path to net zero. These included speeding up progress on technology, influencing the rest of the world, and evening out the cost of air travel versus alternative forms of transport by making the latter cheaper and better.
  2. Assembly members would like to see a solution to air travel emissions that allows people to continue to fly. Assembly members felt that this would protect people's freedom and happiness, as well as having benefits for business and the economy. However their support for continued flying had limits. Assembly members resoundingly rejected a future in which air passenger numbers would rise by as much as 65% between 2018 and 2050, labelling it "counterproductive". Instead, assembly members sought to find an acceptable balance between achieving the net zero target, impacts on lifestyles, reliance on new technologies, and investment in alternatives. Their preferences point to a future in which:
    • Air passenger numbers increase by 25–50% between 2018 and 2050, depending on how quickly technology progresses. This is a lower rate of growth per year than was seen in recent times65 prior to Covid-19;
    • 30m tonnes of CO2 is still emitted by the aviation sector in 2050 and requires removing from the atmosphere;
    • There is investment in alternatives to air travel.
  3. 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Assembly members saw these taxes as fairer than alternative policy options.
  4. Assembly members would like to see the airline industry invest in greenhouse gas removals. 75% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. There was also significant support for financial incentives from government to encourage a wide range of organisations to invest. Assembly members' tended to feel that 'the polluter should pay', although some suggested a need to monitor, scrutinise and perhaps enforce airline industry investment to ensure it actually takes place.
  5. 87% of assembly members strongly agreed that we need to invest in the development and use of new technologies for air travel. These technologies could include electric aircraft and synthetic fuels.

How we travel by air

Air travel accounts for 22% of the UK's total greenhouse gas emissions from transport, and 7% of the UK's total greenhouse gas emissions overall.66 Emissions from flying have grown significantly in the last 30 years.67

Air travel's contribution to UK emissions comes from both:

Excluded from these figures are flights from other countries to the UK (for example, return flights from holidays), or travel that UK residents take within other countries or from one foreign country to another. Climate Assembly UK followed the same criteria when deciding what was, and was not, in scope for its discussions.

Air travel also includes both passenger or 'personal' transport, and freight. Personal transport is what people use to travel for pleasure, like going on holiday or visiting family and friends. It also covers travel for work. Freight is transport used to move goods. Climate Assembly UK considered personal transport only. It did not look at freight.69 This followed guidance from Parliament that, if there was not time to consider both, its committees most wanted to hear assembly members' views on personal transport.

What did the assembly consider?

Thirty-six assembly members considered the topic of air travel in-depth. We selected these assembly members from the assembly as a whole using random stratified sampling. This ensured that they remained reflective of the wider UK population in terms of both demographics70 and their level of concern about climate change.

These assembly members heard a wide range of views both on what the future of air travel could look like for the UK, and how we might move towards that future. They had the opportunity to question each speaker71 in detail. These evidence sessions took place at weekend two of the assembly.

Assembly members spent weekend three of the assembly discussing the evidence they had heard and their own views, before reaching recommendations on three separate areas:

  1. Considerations: the overarching considerations that government and Parliament should bear in mind when making decisions about air travel and the path to net zero;
  2. Futures : what the future of air travel in the UK should look like;
  3. Policy options: how the UK should move toward this future.

Assembly members also had the opportunity to discuss and add anything else they wanted to say to government and Parliament about air travel and the path to net zero. Assembly members' views on the implications of Covid-19 for this topic are touched on in Chapter 10.

A. Considerations

Assembly members reached their first decisions on air travel by discussing their answers to the following question:

What considerations should government and Parliament bear in mind when making decisions about air travel and the path to net zero?

Assembly members thought about their answers to this question individually. They then discussed their views in small groups at their tables, with each table agreeing their five top considerations. These top considerations had to, between them, represent the range of views at the table.

Facilitators took the top considerations from each table and grouped similar options together to create a list on which assembly members could vote. They checked this list back with assembly members to make sure they had accurately reflected their views. This included making any necessary adjustments. Each assembly member voted for the four options that they felt to be most important.

The results were as follows. The wording of the considerations in the table is either word for word what assembly members wrote on their option cards or, where facilitators combined similar options from several tables, how they described the options to assembly members prior to the vote.

RankConsideration% assembly members who chose it as a priority

1

Taken together, the following two considerations had the most votes:

  • Escalate and speed up options to enable us to keep flying (e.g. technology, synthetic fuels, carbon offsetting)
  • Speed up technology (e.g. electric planes, synthetic fuels) but don’t jump in before ready and don’t compromise safety

53

25

28

=2

Influence the rest of the world (USA and China) – e.g. tax on aviation fuel needs to be worldwide

50

=2

Even out the costs of air travel compared to alternatives by making alternatives cheaper and better, including increasing capacity to cater for increased demand

50

4

Frequent fliers and those that fly more distance should pay more

44

=5

Stay competitive and protect the economy, including addressing the impact on business and the travel industry

31

=5

Engage the population in making the necessary changes (education, promotion, explanation)

31

7

Take account of different travel needs (e.g. people with family far away, the military, people who live on islands, medical needs)

25

=8

Promote and incentivise UK holidays

22

=8

Scrap incentives to make people fly more (e.g. air miles, 1st class)

22

10

Ban polluting private jets and helicopters, moving to electric technology as it becomes available

19

=11

Ensure choices are accessible and affordable to all sections of society

14

=11

Don’t limit how much individuals travel

14

13

Even out the costs of air travel compared to alternatives by making air travel more expensive

8

14

Make those who take more expensive modes pay more (i.e. in carbon tax), including those who use private jets

3

Note: It is worth noting that, taken together, the options about evening out the costs of air travel compared to alternatives would have the most votes. These options came joint second and thirteenth in the vote, respectively. However it is possible that some assembly members voted for both these options, which is why they are not combined in the table above. This is not the case for the options that came first, where assembly members agreed prior to the vote that they could only vote for one of them.

B. Futures

After deciding their most important considerations, assembly members moved on to look at the future of air travel for the UK.

To aid them in this process, the Expert Leads presented assembly members with five scenarios for possible futures:

Together these scenarios cover a broad range of views about how air travel could change to help the UK reach net zero.

Each scenario presented to assembly included a different combination of assumptions about:

Assembly members discussed each of the scenarios or 'possible futures', before voting on them by secret ballot.

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each possible future in turn.

B.1 Technological change

This future would see increased air travel, with technology used to reduce emissions. It would feature:

Assembly members discussed this possible future in small groups. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Assembly members made the following additional comments in relation to this possible future:

"We always have to put this in an international context."

"Every option will be impactful on current behaviour. People will have to get on with that."

"We have to set an example."

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this future received significant support from assembly members. Please see page 135 for the vote results.

B.2 More emissions from flying

This possible future would involve continued growth in air travel. It would feature:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. A few individual assembly members noted positive points about this future. However, the majority of assembly members focused on its negatives.

Pros

Cons

One assembly member said they would support this possible future if it included more technological change in order to reduce carbon emissions further.

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received almost no support from assembly members. The only assembly member who chose this option as their first preference commented:

"To keep up with global growth and life expectations air travel will increase irrespective of UK policy. All options presented require carbon capture anyway…."

Please see below for the results of the vote.

B.3 Flying less

This possible future would involve reducing air travel. It would feature:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received support from some assembly members. Assembly members who chose this as their first preference made a range of comments including:

"Serious attempt to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases."

"Only future with reduction in air passengers over the period – most direct solution to reduce emissions instead of methods that increase emissions that then need to be captured – when technology does not seem reliable or all figured out yet."

"People staying in the UK and spending in UK."

Please see below for the results of the vote.

B.4 Combined approach

This scenario would involve slower growth in air travel than has been the case in recent years, alongside the use of some new technologies and fuels. They noted that it would feature:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

One assembly member suggested that this scenario "requires a lot of education to make it work".

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received significant support from assembly members. Please see page 135 for the vote results.

B.5 Flying less until technology improves

This scenario would involve reducing air travel until new technologies become available.76 It would feature:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

A number of assembly members made additional comments about this possible future. They suggested that:

One assembly member also asked whether electrical long–haul recharge platforms are a possibility.

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received support from some assembly members. Please see below for the results of the vote.

Vote results

Assembly members voted on the possible futures by secret ballot. The ballot paper asked them to rank the futures in their order of preference.

The votes were counted in two ways:

Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Technological change 39%

More emission from flying 3%

Flying less 19%

Combined approach 22%

Flying less until technology improves 17%

Figure 1: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

'Technological change' received significantly more first preference votes than the other futures. 'More emissions from flying' received almost no votes. A majority of assembly members (58%) chose as their first preference a future that would see passenger numbers rise by just 15–25% by 2050 – a much lower figure than the 50% increase under 'technological change'.

Assembly members who chose 'technological change' as their first preference wrote a range of reasons for their choice on their ballot papers, including:

"I think it is most sensible to push for an advance in technology because other ideas seem to just be putting off or avoiding the problems, instead of trying to solve them."

"Has a reasonable level of CO2 emissions … which may be achievable to remove from the atmosphere."

"Freedom of movement is important to me."

"It seems the most realistic and practical solution – as we are an island people need to fly."

"Most socially acceptable option."

"It also still allows a high growth level which is important to the economy and businesses."

"I believe the answer to all the problems in relation to emissions (within aviation) lies in technology."

In the Borda count, 'technological change' and 'combined approach' received almost identical scores. 'More emissions from flying' again scored poorly.

Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

Technological change 99

More emission from flying 22

Flying less 64

Combined approach 99

Flying less until technology improves 73

Figure 2: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

Assembly member who chose 'combined approach' as their first preference gave a range of reasons for their choice. This included a feeling that this future is 'balanced', with some noting their support for investment in alternative forms of transport. Comments included:

"Combines passenger growth with investment into surface transports. And a reasonable amount (30 m tonnes) of CO2 to be removed."

"Emissions lower, alternatives to flying being invested in so not forcing people to completely stop travelling – not a very drastic change in lifestyle. Most realistic option as growth in air passengers cannot suddenly stop."

"Seems obvious to make best efforts on all fronts including some small behaviour change."

"Overall the investment in high speed rail. And higher rate of technology."

"Most achievable and likely to be acceptable to the majority."

Futures – conclusions

Overall, assembly members' preferred futures were 'technological change' and the 'Combined approach', with the former securing substantially more first preference votes (39% to 22%).

Comments in group discussions and on their ballot papers suggest that assembly members' reasons for supporting 'Technological change' centred on a wish for a solution to air travel emissions that allows people to continue to fly. They cited rationale including freedom and happiness for this preference, as well as – to a slightly lesser extent – benefits to business and the economy. Some assembly members expressed scepticism about the feasibility of significant changes to passenger numbers.

Assembly members' support for continued flying did, however, have limits:

This split in first preference votes makes the Borda count results particularly instructive. They suggest that the two scenarios that large numbers of assembly members could live with, even if they were not their first preference, are 'technological change' and the 'Combined approach.' For some assembly members the latter offered "an acceptable best of both worlds" that was likely to be more achievable and acceptable to the public, and which included investment in alternative forms of transport. Taken together, these two scenarios suggest a future in which:

C. Policy options

After considering what the future of air travel in the UK would be, assembly members moved on to consider how we might get there. Specifically they looked at policy options in two areas:

Managing the amount we fly; Ensuring investment in greenhouse gas removals.

For each of these areas, the Expert Leads recapped and explained potential policy options. Assembly members discussed these ideas in their groups before voting by secret ballot. They were also able to make additional suggestions for steps that could be taken.

During their discussions, assembly members requested an opportunity to vote on:

Investment in the development and use of new technologies.

The results of this vote are also included below.

C.1 Managing the amount we fly

During the discussions, some assembly members asked for an additional option to be added to the ballot paper:"Taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further." The Expert Leads accepted this request.

Assembly members looked at two options for managing the amount we fly:77

During the discussions, some assembly members asked for an additional option to be added to the ballot paper:

We accepted this request.78

This section starts by presenting the rationale for assembly members' views, taking each policy option in turn.

A carbon tax on all flights

This would involve replacing the current tax on flights79 with a carbon tax based on the amount of CO2 emitted for each passenger. The carbon tax paid could be varied by cabin class, although it would not have to be. For example, business class passengers could be asked to pay a higher amount.

Assembly members identified a number of pros, cons and conditions about a carbon tax on all flights. Conditions are measures that some assembly members said would need to be in place for them to support this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Conditions

In the voting, a carbon tax on all flights received some support from assembly members. Please see below for the results of the vote.

Taxes that increase as people fly more often

This would involve replacing air passenger duty with a tax that increases as people fly more often. This could be done so that people who only fly once in a year pay no tax. The tax paid could also be varied by cabin class although it would not have to be. For example, business class passengers could be asked to pay a higher amount.

Assembly members identified a number of pros, cons and conditions about taxes that increase as people fly more often.

Pros

Cons

Conditions

In the voting, taxes that increase as people fly more often received significant support from assembly members. However they did not receive as much support as taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further. Please see page 143 for the vote results.

Additional ideas

Assembly members raised a number of additional ideas for policy options in this area:

"We could have both (with a smaller fairer carbon tax and higher frequent flyer levy)"

"Escalating carbon tax depending on how often you fly"

"Tax on fuel will drive more efficiency"

One assembly member commented "we are having to vote on tax – are there other options?! Tax by back door."80

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options for managing the amount we fly. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

A majority of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that all the policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. However some policy options were clearly much more supported than others.

The most popular option was 'taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further.' 81% of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that this should be part of how the UK gets to net zero, with an outright majority of 65% strong agreeing. This was followed by "taxes that increase as people fly more often (70% 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed'), with a carbon tax on all flights (59%) bringing up the rear.

A carbon tax on all flights also received much lower levels of strong support than the other options – 15%, compared to 35% and 65% respectively.

The results of the preference votes paint a similar picture. 'Taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further' was by some distance the most popular option in terms of both first preference votes and the Borda count. A carbon tax on all flights remained the least popular option, again by some margin.

Figure 3: Managing the amount we fly: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

A carbon tax on all fights

15% Strongly Agree

44% Agree

15% Don’t mind or unsure

21% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Taxes that increase as people fly more often

35% Strongly Agree

35% Agree

12% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

15% Strongly disagree

Taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further

65% Strongly Agree

15% Agree

3% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

15% Strongly disagree

Figure 3: Managing the amount we fly: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

A carbon tax on all fights 12%

Taxes that increase as people fly more often 21%

Taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further 68%

Figure 4: Managing the amount we fly: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

A carbon tax on all fights 21%

Taxes that increase as people fly more often 29%

Taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further 52%

Figure 5: Managing the amount we fly: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

C.2 Ensuring investment in greenhouse gas removals

Assembly members looked at three options for ensuring investment in greenhouse gas removals:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Airline industry invests

This policy option would give the airline industry responsibility for investing in greenhouse gas removal measures to balance out remaining emissions from air travel.

Assembly members identified a number of pros, cons and conditions relating to this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Conditions

In the voting, this option received significant support from assembly members. Please see below for the results of the vote.

Government invests

This policy option would involve the government investing in greenhouse gas removal measures to balance out remaining emissions and ensure the net zero target is met. This would include emissions not just from air travel but also from other sectors likely to have remaining emissions in 2050, such as farming.

Assembly members identified a number of pros, cons and conditions about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Conditions

In the voting, government investment received less support than the other policy options.

A wide range of organisations invest

This policy option would involve the government overseeing financial incentives to organisations that invest in greenhouse gas removal measures. This would include emissions not just from air travel but also from other sectors likely to have remaining emissions in 2050, such as farming. It could potentially involve a wide range of organisations receiving incentives.

Assembly members identified a number of pros, cons and conditions about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Conditions

In the voting, this option received significant support from assembly members.

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options for ensuring investment in greenhouse gas removals. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Airline industry invests

43% Strongly Agree

29% Agree

3% Don’t mind or unsure

20% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Government invests

20% Strongly Agree

31% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

26% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

A wide range of organisations invest

26% Strongly Agree

43% Agree

17% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Figure 6: Ensuring investment in greenhouse gas removals: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

A majority of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that all the policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. However some policy options received significantly more support than others.

The two most popular options were airline industry investment and investment from a wide range of organisations:

Investment from the airline industry was, however, also more controversial. 26% of assembly members 'disagreed' or 'strongly disagreed' that it should be part of how the UK gets to net zero, with just 3% saying they were 'unsure' or 'didn't mind'. The equivalent figures for investment from a wide range of organisations were 15% and 17%.

Government investment was the least popular of the three options, although a small majority (51%) still supported it. It was also more controversial than the other options with 35% of assembly members 'disagreeing' or 'strongly disagreeing' that it should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. 14% said they 'didn't mind' or were 'unsure'.

The results of the preference votes shed additional light on assembly members' views. First preference votes showed a strong lean towards airline industry investment, with government investment coming second and investment from a wide range of organisations third. The Borda count showed a slight lead for airline industry investment with investment from a wide range of organisations coming a very close second, and government investment third.

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Airline industry invests 46%

Government invests 29%

A wide range of organisations invest 26%

Figure 7: Ensuring investment in greenhouse gas removals: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Airline industry invests 40%

Government invests 27%

A wide range of organisations invest 28%

Figure 8: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

C.3 Investing in the development and use of new technologies for air travel

The potential of new technologies was a strong theme in assembly members' discussions throughout weekend three. At the beginning of the weekend, ideas in this area topped assembly members' list of considerations for government and Parliament to bear in mind (see Section A). 'Technological change' was also assembly members' preferred future (see Section B).

Towards the end of the weekend, some assembly members asked if there could be a further vote looking at whether investment in the development and use of new technologies for air travel should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Assembly members discussed the suggestion at their tables before the vote took place.

Assembly members identified a number of pros, cons and conditions about investment in the development and use of new technologies.

Pros

Cons

Conditions

Vote results

The ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that investment in the development and use of new technologies should be part of how the UK gets to net zero.

Their results show overwhelming agreement. 87% of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' with the statement, with a large majority (61%) strongly agreeing.

How much do you agree or disagree that investment in the development and use of new technologies for air travel should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

61% Strongly Agree

26% Agree

0% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Figure 9: Investment in the development and use of technologies: How much do you agree or disagree that investment in the development and use of new technologies for air travel should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

Policy options – conclusions

Assembly members were generally supportive of policies to manage the amount we fly, ensure investment in greenhouse gas removals and invest in the development and use of new technologies for air travel. At least 50% of assembly members supported all the policy options.

That said, assembly members had strong and clear preferences within the policy options they considered.

Overall assembly members preferred managing the amount we fly through 'taxes that increase as we fly more often and as we fly further'. 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Assembly members' comments suggest that many saw this idea as fairer than the other proposals, which each took into account only one of how often people fly or how far they fly. They also felt it was less problematic in terms of its impact on people with lower incomes. Assembly members consistently highlighted two considerations as particularly important around implementation:

In terms of investment in greenhouse gas removals, assembly members tended to favour investment from the airline industry. 75% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. There was also significant, albeit slightly lesser, support for the idea of investment from a wide range of organisations. Overall, assembly members were less keen on direct government investment.

Assembly members' comments suggest that behind these preferences lay a feeling that 'the polluter should pay. ' Some also felt airline industry investment would incentivise quicker process on new technologies. There was however uneasiness amongst some assembly members too, they suggested a need to monitor, scrutinise and perhaps enforce airline industry investment to ensure it actually took place.

Assembly members strongly supported investment in the development and use of new technologies for air travel. 87% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that it should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Assembly members' rationale included a wish to see technology develop quickly, and support for a technology-based solution to air travel emissions in general. Some assembly members raised concerns or conditions, including a wish not to rely solely on hopes of technological progress.

D. Anything else to tell government or Parliament

At the end of weekend three, assembly members had the opportunity to add any further thoughts on air travel and the path to net zero. A small number of assembly members chose to add additional points. These centred around eight main areas:

"Are you going to take into account aircraft engines and occupancy in relation to emissions, which will affect the amount of carbon tax for each journey?"

"Carbon tax extreme example: You get on a plane, and find that you're the only passenger!"

Conclusions

Assembly members expressed clear and consistent recommendations about air travel and the path to net zero.

There was strong support for steps to ensure that new technologies for air travel progress as quickly as possible. Assembly members chose "speeding up technology" as the top consideration they would like government and Parliament to bear in mind. They also expressed very strong support for investment in the development and use of new technologies for air travel. 87% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this should be part of how the UK gets to net zero.

A key reason behind this preference is that many assembly members would like to see a solution to air travel emissions that allows people to continue to fly. Their rationale included a wish to protect people's freedom and happiness, as well as benefits for business and the economy. Their support for continued flying did however have limits. Assembly members resoundingly rejected a future in which air passenger numbers would rise by as much as 65% between 2018 and 2050, labelling it "counterproductive" – only 3% of assembly members chose such as future as their first preference.

Instead, assembly members sought to find an acceptable balance between achieving the net zero target, impacts on lifestyles, reliance on new technologies and investment in alternative forms of transport. Taken together, their preferences suggest a future in which:

Some assembly members noted their support for investment in alternatives to air travel.

In terms of how to achieve this future, assembly members' preferred policy option for managing the amount we fly were taxes that increase as people fly more often and as they fly further. 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Assembly members tended see these taxes as fairer than alternatives that only took into account one of how often or how far people fly. They also felt they were less problematic in terms of their impact on people with lower incomes. Some assembly members suggested that exceptions would need to be made for people with family abroad or for "essential flyers." Others felt that any money raised from such taxes should be ring-fenced to support new air travel technologies.

In terms of investment in greenhouse gas removals, assembly members tended to favour investment from the airline industry. 75% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. There was also significant support for financial incentives for investment from a wide range of organisations. Overall, assembly members were less keen on direct government investment. Assembly members' comments suggest that behind these preferences lay a feeling amongst many that 'the polluter should pay. ' There was however uneasiness amongst some assembly members, who suggested a need to monitor, scrutinise and perhaps enforce airline industry investment to ensure it actually takes place.

Assembly members' comments and votes throughout the weekend re-emphasised the points raised in their top considerations for air travel and the path to net zero (see Section A). This list provides an important guide for policy-makers looking at the UK's net zero strategy.

In the home

Summary of recommendations

  1. Assembly members emphasised the need for a long-term strategy with a wide range of actors taking steps to move the sector towards net zero. Assembly members strongly supported roles for government investment (80%), local solutions ( 80%), individual responsibility (80%) and market innovation  (80%).
  2. A majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 19 policy measures on heat and energy use in the home should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Policies supported by at least two-thirds of assembly members were:
    • Support for smaller organisations to offer energy services (94%);
    • Simpler consumer protection measures (92%);
    • Changes to product standards to make products more energy efficient and 'smart' (91%);
    • Local plans for zero carbon homes (89%);
    • A ban on sales of new gas boilers from 2030 or 2035 (86%);
    • Changes to energy market rules to allow more companies to compete (86%);
    • Changes to VAT on energy efficiency and zero carbon heating products (83%);
    • Information and support funded by government (83%), or information and support provided by government (72%);
    • Government help for everyone (69%) or government help for poorer households (68%);
    • Enforcing district heating networks (66%).
  3. In their discussions, assembly members emphasised their support for tailored solutions for local areas and individual households; increased choice, including through steps to promote competition; and reliable and clear information for the public. They stressed that changes need to work for all income groups and housing types. Some noted concerns about the influence and behaviour of big companies, and around use of personal data.
  4. On home retrofits, assembly members emphasised the need to minimise disruption in the home, put in place support around costs, and offer flexibility and choice to homeowners. They showed a slight preference for upgrading each home all in one go (56%), compared to upgrading each home gradually (44%) but attached conditions to the former around how it is financed. Some also stressed that this should be a choice for homeowners.
  5. The best technology to use for zero carbon heating is a matter of significant policy debate. However at least 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that each of hydrogen (83%), heat pumps (80%), and heat networks (80%) should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. 94% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 'people in different parts of the country should be offered different solutions to zero carbon heating.'
  6. The 23 considerations for government and Parliament that assembly members identified at the start of their discussions – along with the rationale and conditions assembly members noted throughout – provide a valuable guide for policy-makers working on heat and energy use in the home and the path to net zero.

In the home

Climate Assembly UK's 'in the home' theme focussed on changes that are needed to the use of heating, hot water and electricity in the home to reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions.

At the moment, the main sources of greenhouse gas emissions in the home are:81

Around 15% of the UK's greenhouse gas emissions come from the residential sector.82

What did the assembly consider?

Thirty-five assembly members considered the topic of heat and energy use in the home. We selected these assembly members from the assembly as a whole using random stratified sampling. This ensured that they remained reflective of the wider UK population in terms of both demographics83 and their level of concern about climate change.

These assembly members heard a wide range of views on the future of heat and energy use in UK homes, and how we might move towards that future. They had the opportunity to question each speaker84 in detail. These evidence sessions took place at weekend two of the assembly.

Assembly members spent weekend three of the assembly discussing the evidence they had heard and their own views in-depth, before reaching conclusions on five separate areas:

  1. Considerations: the overarching considerations that government and Parliament should bear in mind when making decisions about heat and energy use in the home;
  2. Retrofit: whether upgrades to each home to reduce energy use (for example, to improve insulation) should happen gradually or all in one go;
  3. Zero carbon heating: what technology or combination of technologies should be used to replace gas central heating, and whether or not different parts of the country should be offered different solutions.
  4. Futures : an overarching view of how to make change happen around heat and energy use in UK homes;
  5. Policy options: which specific policies should be used as part of this future.

Assembly members also had the opportunity to discuss and add anything else they wanted to say to government and Parliament about heat and energy use in the home and the path to net zero. Assembly members' views on the implications of Covid-19 for this topic are touched on in Chapter 10.

A. Considerations

Assembly members reached their first decisions on 'in the home' by discussing their answers to the following question:

What considerations should government and Parliament bear in mind when making decisions about heat and energy use in the home and the path to net zero?

Assembly members thought about their answers to this question individually. They then discussed their views in small groups at their tables, with each table agreeing their eight top considerations. These top considerations had to, between them, represent the range of views at the table.

Facilitators took the top considerations from each table and grouped similar options together to create a list on which assembly members could vote. They checked this list back with assembly members to make sure they had accurately reflected their views. This included making any necessary adjustments. Each assembly member voted for the six options that they felt to be most important.

The results were as follows. The wording of the considerations in the table is either word for word what assembly members wrote on their option cards or, where facilitators combined similar options from several tables, how we described the options to assembly members prior to the vote.

RankConsideration% assembly members who chose it as a priority

1

Strategy needs to be enforceable by government, and binding for future governments.[^5]A guaranteed long-term safety guard (including for industry)

60

2

Make this work for everyone. All housing types and geographies (urban and rural)

Some assembly members asked to avoid “mak[ing] the poor poorer by loading costs on to them”, with others noting the need to pay attention to “people whose livelihoods will be affected (e.g. heating engineers and farmers).” Some said solutions need to work for both tenants and owners.

Other assembly members talked about “infrastructure challenges” including “rural areas …[not having] ready-made pipework in the ground”, disruption caused by “dragging up streets” and the idea that “one size doesn’t fit all.”

54

3

Education and good communication should build awareness to enable people to make informed decisions

Some assembly members suggested this was important to “overcome the challenge of lack of trust in government messages.” Others advised “don’t sell it as ‘dealing with climate change’ but as making a cleaner planet.” Some assembly members suggested that part of the solution could be “more education in schools, colleges.”

51

4

Have imaginative solutions/incentives to make work financially viable

Some assembly members suggested the following: “loans that can be paid off through your bills”, “lower stamp duty for efficient homes”, “connect EPC rating with significant tax subsidy”, “setting up a big charity with big philanthropy money.” Others suggested “using milestones to force change (like TV switchover)” and “making the transition seamless for consumers.”

46

5

Learn from others and avoid making expensive mistakes

Some assembly members talked about a need to “plan things correctly, with everyone’s voices/input to avoid expensive mistakes or revisions and with a phased approach and clear principles.” Others said “government and Parliament need to consider learning from elsewhere to ensure planned, effective changes with clear deadlines (with urgency).”

43

6

The onus should be on producers/manufacturers, rather than consumers, to:

  • “produce products that deliver as intended with guaranteed lifespan”;
  • “ensure access to zero carbon products.”

40

7

Solutions should be affordable for all consumers in all circumstances

Some assembly members said this should include “helping ‘everyday folk’ (people who would not normally be considered vulnerable).” Others said it “needs to be fair and financially viable for all households.”

37

8

Minimum standard for all homes

31

=9

Make best use of the role of local authorities

Some assembly members suggested that this included local authorities “using their [area’s] range of natural resources.” Others said to “give local authorities power, but make them more accountable to local people, e.g. via citizens assemblies.”

29

=9

Solutions should be tailored to local and individual needs

29

11

Need to consider impact on jobs, including retraining and retention

Some assembly member noted the “impact on jobs, including local jobs,” suggesting a need to “sustain skill-set[s] as technology progresses.” Others said that “industry professionals will require retraining” and that this “should be affordable e.g. [retraining for] boiler/gas technicians on new boilers.”

23

=12

Solutions should focus on reducing energy consumption and improving efficiency

17

=12

Ensure that changes made and any new technology are well-researched and sustainable in the long-term

17

=12

Consider the health benefits of change

17

=15

Cost of manufacturing and disposal (including carbon cost and price)

14

=15

Government and Parliament need to consider legislation that ensures transparency and fairness in lobbying and influencing

14

=17

We need cross-political party solutions

11

=17

Support vulnerable groups with advice and financially

11

=17

Getting the right balance to ensure we build, recycle and upgrade products to deliver the best outcomes

Some assembly members asked “can we upgrade/update instead of [going for] full replacement.”

11

=20

Consider adapting Section 106 to include a pot of cash for home insulation

9

=20

Government and Parliament need to consider disincentivising fossil fuels for homes

9

22

Businesses need to be transparent and reinvest profits/not make huge profits

6

=23

Practical, achievable and doable solutions implemented by government

3

=23

Need to consider health and safety of interventions to ensure no negative effects on health e.g. from insulation or technologies

Some assembly members suggested “regulation of products and installation to ensure safety and no negative effects on health.”

3

B. What should happen – Retrofit

The first topic assembly members looked at was retrofit. This means making improvements to homes to reduce energy use, such as insulating lofts and walls and reducing drafts from windows. Speakers at weekend two of the assembly told assembly members that significant energy efficiency improvements need to be made to most of our homes over the next few years.

Assembly members discussed whether it would work best to:

Assembly members discussed these options in small groups, before voting by secret ballot.

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each scenario in turn.

B.1 Upgrading each home all in one go

Assembly members felt that this option had both pros and cons, and expressed these in their discussions and on their ballot papers. Some assembly members also suggested 'conditions' that should be met if this option went ahead.

Pros

Cons

Conditions

B.2 Upgrading each home gradually

Assembly members felt upgrading each home gradually had both pros and cons, and expressed these in their discussions and on their ballot papers. Some assembly members also suggested 'conditions' that should be met if this option went ahead.

Pros

Cons

Conditions

A few assembly members who voted for 'upgrading each home gradually' used their ballot papers to expand on some of the points above. Comments included:

"Everything needs a starting point. I think getting started with basic things i.e. loft, insulation, draft proofing, and expand from that."

"From an environmental stand-point upgrading all in one go would be great, but I have chosen the option to upgrade each home gradually as I see this as being more realistic economically and technologically. Improvements over time may result in cost decreases."

"This has to be an affordable choice. Consideration must be given to the fact that the average UK resident is in huge debt to begin with so cost is a question. In my case I would not be able to afford to do this at once, so a gradual programme would be satisfactory."

Vote results

Assembly members voted on the two retrofit options by secret ballot, ranking them in order of preference.

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Upgrading each home all in one go 56%

Upgrading each home gradually 44%

Figure 1: Retrofits: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Assembly members showed a slight preference for 'upgrading each home all in one go' (56%), over 'upgrading each home gradually' (44%). For a number of assembly members, their backing for all-in-one retrofits was however conditional on what financial support and arrangements would be available. Conversely, only one assembly member said their support for 'upgrading each home gradually' was conditional on a particular measure.

Some assembly members emphasised on their ballot paper that both options should be available or that each is good for different purposes:

"As a homeowner, I would need to do things gradually, due to cost, so that would be my preference. If the government or housing association were responsible I would go for option 1 as they have the ability to do several houses at once."

"Gradually [for a] homeowner (cost and inconvenience, normal on-going renovations). All in one [for]…social housing should be the best approach."

"I do think though that it shouldn't be a 'one size fits all' situation and both methods should be considered."

"[I support Option 2 because] it would not prevent households upgrading in one go whereas 'all in one go' prevents [people upgrading] gradually."

"I do not believe we should force people into a decision one way or the other. Different people have different circumstances. What is better for one is not better for the other."

The assembly member who made the last comment above abstained from the vote.

Retrofit – conclusions

Taken together, assembly members' votes and comments paint a nuanced picture of their views on retrofits. They suggest that assembly members saw three areas as particularly important:

Assembly members also raised points around impacts on CO2 emissions, work quality, and the availability of improved technology, among other issues.

When it came to the vote, assembly members had mixed views about whether gradual or all-in-one retrofits would be best. In pure percentage terms, their votes showed a slight preference for 'upgrading each home all in one go' (56%), over 'upgrading each home gradually' (44%). However, some assembly members attached conditions to their backing for the all-in-one-go option around what financial support and arrangements would be available. Others were clear that they felt both gradual and all-in-one retrofits should be possible: for some this was about the ability of households to choose what is right for them; for others, the best option depended on the type of housing in question.

C. What should happen – Zero carbon heating

Assembly members discussed two different areas in relation to zero carbon heating:

At present most homes in the UK are heated with natural gas, which is a fossil fuel.

This section takes each of the above areas in turn, firstly presenting assembly members' rationale and then the results of the relevant votes.

C.1 Heat pumps

Assembly members discussed electric heat pumps in small groups. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members suggested conditions they would want to be in place for heat pumps to be used. Some said that "solar panels need to be part of the mix and windmills at home." Others talked about the "role of surveyors – need to be proactive."

Assembly members' votes showed considerable support for heat pumps. Please see below for the vote results.

C.2 Hydrogen

The second technology that assembly members discussed was hydrogen. Assembly members identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members suggested conditions they would want to be in place for hydrogen to be used. Some wondered whether "smaller networks [could] be created to make it more available." Others suggested that it "might be viable in [the] long term [only] – due to [the] costs of electrolysis."

Assembly members' votes showed considerable support for hydrogen, although this support was slightly less strong than for heat pumps and heat networks. Please see below for the vote results.

C.3 Heat networks

Assembly members discussed heat networks in small groups. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Vote results

Assembly members voted on heat pumps, hydrogen and heat networks by secret ballot.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Heat pumps

34% Strongly Agree

46% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Hydrogen

20% Strongly Agree

63% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Heat networks

31% Strongly Agree

49% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

0% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Figure 2: Zero carbon heating: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

At least 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that each technology should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Variations between the results for the different technologies were minimal: slightly more assembly members supported the use of hydrogen (83%, compared to 80% for the two other technologies), but fewer 'strongly agreed' with its use (20%, as opposed to 31% and 34%).

C.4 Different solutions for different local areas

After considering the three types of technology, assembly members moved on to look at whether people in different parts of the country should be offered different solutions to zero carbon heating. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members suggested measures they would want to see in place if different areas are offered different solutions:

"I believe that central government funding to local authorities should be based on the options they have at their disposal to avoid any unfair disadvantages to areas that are not rich in natural resources, so [that] each LHA [can] have a consistent fair approach and all energy consumers pay the same price."

"Needs good joined up / partnership working"

"Transparency should be used to explain why different options are available to different people."

Assembly members voted overwhelmingly in favour of offering people in different parts of the country different solutions. Please see below for the voting results.

Figure 3: Zero carbon heating: "People in different parts of the country should be offered different solutions to zero carbon heating" (%)

68% Strongly Agree

26% Agree

% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Figure 3: Zero carbon heating: "People in different parts of the country should be offered different solutions to zero carbon heating" (%)

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on how much they agreed or disagreed with the statement: "People in different parts of the country should be offered different solutions to zero carbon heating".

94% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with the statement. A large majority (68%) 'strongly agreed'.

Zero carbon heating – conclusions

The best technology to use for zero carbon heating is a matter of significant policy debate. However assembly members were clear that, in general, they would be comfortable for any of the technologies to be used. At least 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that each technology of heat pumps, hydrogen and heat networks should be part of how the UK gets to net zero.

Assembly members also had clear views about whether people in different parts of the country should be offered different solutions to zero carbon heating. 94% of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' with this statement, with 68% strongly agreeing. For many assembly members, local areas have different geographies, resources, infrastructures, restrictions and costs; they felt that areas should be able to choose the technologies best suited to their needs.

D. Futures

Having considered what the future should look like in terms of home retrofits and zero carbon heating, assembly members moved on to look at how change should happen.

To aid them in this process, the Expert Leads presented assembly members with four scenarios:

  1. Individuals take responsibility;
  2. Market innovation;
  3. Government investment;
  4. Local solutions.

Together the scenarios cover a broad range of views about how change might work. They were not mutually exclusive.

D.1 Individuals take responsibility

In this possible future, individual householders or landlords would have responsibility to upgrade their properties. This would include installing energy efficiency measures and zero carbon heating. It would involve:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members made additional points about this future. They suggested that consideration should be given to:

Assembly members showed considerable support for this future in their votes, although slightly less than for some of the other futures. Please below for the vote results.

D.2 Market innovation

In this possible future, it would be easier for any company, not just energy companies, to sell 'energy services' (like 'heat as a service')85. It would involve:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members made additional points about this future. They suggested that consideration should be given to:

Assembly members showed considerable support for this future in their votes, although less than for some of the other futures. Please below for the vote results.

D.3 Government investment

In this possible future, central government would invest public money in a nationwide retrofit scheme. It would involve:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members made additional points about this future. They suggested that:

Assembly members showed considerable support for this future in their votes. Please see below for the vote results.

D.4 Local solutions

In this possible future, local government (e.g. a city or a county) would have overall responsibility for getting homes to zero carbon. It would involve:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members made additional points about this future:

"Need for informal forward looking, efficient, innovative local councils"

"How would local authorities prioritise where gets changes first?"

"Local citizen assemblies deciding which tech is best for local environment"

"Must be options for choice [for] individuals"

"Central government will need to work with local authorities to meet local needs"

"Individuals should be trusted to chose what is best for them but they should be supported by government"

Assembly members showed considerable support for this future in their votes.

Vote results

Assembly members voted on the futures by secret ballot. There were two different ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each future should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the futures in their order of preference.

The votes from this second ballot paper were counted in two ways:

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the possible futures should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Individuals take responsibility

31% Strongly Agree

49% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Market innovation

26% Strongly Agree

54% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Government investment

37% Strongly Agree

43% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Local solutions

40% Strongly Agree

40% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Figure 4: Possible futures: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the possible futures should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

The results of the first vote suggest that assembly members would be happy for all four of these ways of making change happen to play a role in helping the UK get to net zero. 80% of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that each of the futures should play a part. There were slightly higher levels of strong support ("strongly agree") for 'local solutions' and 'government investment', with 'market innovation' receiving the lowest levels of strong support.

Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Individuals take responsibility 26%

Market innovation 14%

Government investment 29%

Local solutions 31%

Figure 5: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

Individuals take responsibility 47%

Market innovation 43%

Government investment 59%

Local solutions 61%

Figure 6: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

The second vote confirmed these preferences. 'Local solutions' and 'government investment' received the most first preference votes and highest Borda count scores, followed by 'individuals take responsibility'. 'Market innovation' was a little way behind the other options, particularly in terms of first preference votes.

One assembly member commented:

"I think that the best solution is actually a combination of them all. We need government investment and regulations to force the change and make it available. The solutions need to be considered on a local level to incorporate the different needs/resources there. Then the individual can make a decision on what is available to them. Market innovation alongside this could allow for a wider range of options and collaboration."

Futures – conclusions

Assembly members backed a combination of ways to create change in heat and energy use in the home. 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that each of individual responsibility, market innovation, government investment and local solutions should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Assembly members were particularly positive about 'government investment' and 'local solutions'. They suggested that government investment would mean a co-ordinated plan, with quicker change and clear standards, among other benefits. They felt that local solutions would result in plans tailored to local needs, and that they would benefit the local economy and facilitate better engagement with local communities.

'Market innovation' tended to receive slightly less support across the votes, with assembly members expressing concerns about potential company behaviour.

E. Policy options

After considering how to make change happen in general terms, assembly members moved on to consider what specific policies that might involve. They looked at policy options in five areas:

For each of these areas, the Expert Leads recapped and explained potential policy ideas. Assembly members discussed these options in their groups before voting by secret ballot. They were also able to note suggestions for additional measures.

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

E.1 Information

Assembly members looked at four options around information:

Carbon MOTs for houses

This would involve each home having a test every few years to see what improvements could be made to reduce its energy use (e.g. draught proofing, better insulation, heating upgrade). It would be carried out by independent assessors.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about carbon MOTs for houses.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said they would only support this policy if it was a "single MOT once [and] only advisory!" Others said it would need to "tailor results to personal situations. Not everyone should be forced to take the fastest option to reach net zero." Similarly others said there would need to be an "allowance for special situations" or queried "are required improvements compulsory, especially in rented accommodation." Some assembly members said it would need to combined with "government funding." Others said work would need to go into ensuring that MOT assessments are "genuine and honest."

Information and support provided by government

This would involve the government running an information campaign to tell householders and landlords how they could make their homes zero-carbon and who can help them.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said that they would want to see a "consistent campaign" or that they would want the information provided to include details of agencies that could provide advice on the work to be done.

Information and support funded by government

This would involve information and support funded by government, but run by an independent organisation such as Citizens' Advice. The government would pay this organisation to run an information campaign that tells householders and landlords how they could make their homes zero carbon and who can help them.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about information and support funded by government.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said they would want it to be an "equal service for everyone", with "information provided regularly." Some said that "all information needs to direct to support – funds / loans may not be clear." Others said their support was conditional on "funding [for] Citizens' Advice", or a "mix of funding (companies and government)." Some commented that "legislation for private housing is generally efficient…."

Information and support funded by private companies

This would involve information and support funded by private companies through energy bills and run by an independent organisation such as Citizens' Advice.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members asked "can the higher energy bills be paid for by companies (profits) rather than the consumer."

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options around information. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

A clear majority of assembly of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that three of the policies should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. In order of overall levels of agreement, these were:

More assembly members 'strongly agreed' with carbon MOTs for houses (37%) than with the other two options they viewed favourably (29% and 23% respectively).

Only 37% of assembly members supported the idea of 'information and support funded by private companies.' A greater percentage (40%) 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed' that it should be introduced.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Carbon MOTs for houses

37% Strongly Agree

26% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

20% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Information and support provided by government

29% Strongly Agree

49% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Information and support funded by government

23% Strongly Agree

60% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Information and support funded by private companies

11% Strongly Agree

26% Agree

23% Don’t mind or unsure

31% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Figure 7: Information: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

The ranking votes largely reinforced the results of the first vote. Carbon MOTs for houses was the most popular policy in terms of first preference votes, possibly reflecting the higher levels of 'strong support' for it in vote one. In the Borda count all three options supported by a majority of assembly members in the first vote scored well. 'Information and support funded by private companies' remained the least popular option by some distance.

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Carbon MOTs for houses 40%

Information and support provided by government 29%

Information and support funded by government 26%

Information and support funded by private companies 6%

Figure 8: Information: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Carbon MOTs for houses 60

Information and support provided by government 60

Information and support funded by government 62

Information and support funded by private companies 28

Figure 9: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

E.2 Fairness and consumer protection

Assembly members looked at two pairs of policy options and one standalone policy idea around 'fairness and consumer protection.'

Assembly members started by considering whether they preferred to 'raise money through adding to all householders' energy bills' or to 'raise money through taxation and government borrowing.' They then looked at whether there should be 'government help for everyone' or only 'government help for poorer households.' Finally they examined whether or not there should be 'simpler consumer protection measures.'

Raise money through adding to all householders' energy bills

This would involve raising some funding for energy efficiency improvements through adding an additional charge to gas and electricity bills.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Raise money through taxation and government borrowing

This would involve the government using public money, raised through taxation, to fund some energy efficiency improvements. The government could also borrow money.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Government help for everyone

This would mean that everyone could get help to fund improvements to their home, regardless of income.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Government help for poorer households

This would mean households on a lower income and/or who have high energy costs ('fuel poor') getting help to fund improvements to their home.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Simpler consumer protection measures

This would involve the government reviewing current rules on consumer protection to make them simpler and more effective. There are currently lots of separate sets of rules, covering different aspects of energy (such as supplying gas and electricity, or fitting boilers), as well as products and services linked to energy (like building regulations). This can make it difficult for people to know who to turn to if something goes wrong.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about simpler consumer protection measures.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members suggested that consumer protection measures "nee[d] clarification rather than simplification for consumers." Others noted a need to think about any "funding implication."

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options around fairness and consumer protection. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank two pairs of options:

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Raise money through adding to all householders’ energy bills

23% Strongly Agree

31% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

17% Disagree

17% Strongly disagree

Raise money through taxation and government borrowing

14% Strongly Agree

51% Agree

17% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Government help for everyone

43% Strongly Agree

26% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

17% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Government help for poorer households

34% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

17% Disagree

6 % Strongly disagree

Simpler consumer protection measures

46% Strongly Agree

46% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Figure 10: Fairness and consumer protection: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

A majority of assembly members supported all five policy options. However the extent of their support varied:

The preference voting shed additional light on assembly members' views:

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Raise money through adding to all householders’ energy bills 53%

Raise money through taxation and government borrowing 47%

Figure 11: Fairness and consumer protection: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Government help for everyone 53%

Government help for poorer households 47%

Figure 12: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

E.3 Standard setting

Assembly members looked at three options around standard setting:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Ban sales of new gas boilers

This would involve the government announcing a ban on the sale of new fossil fuel gas boilers. The ban would come into effect in 10 or 15 years time (2030 or 2035).

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Changes to product standards

There are legal standards applied to energy-using products. This policy option would involve the government strengthening these standards to make sure products are more efficient and also 'smart'. 'Smart' products are connected to the internet and the electricity grid, so that they can respond to demand on the grid. For example, a fridge might turn off if there is a short period of high demand for electricity.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about changes to product standards.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Requirements for selling and renting

This would involve a requirement for each home to reach a certain level of energy efficiency. You couldn't sell or rent a home that did not reach this level.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options around standard setting. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Ban sales of new gas boilers

40% Strongly Agree

46% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Changes to product standards

51% Strongly Agree

40% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Requirements for selling and renting

34% Strongly Agree

31% Agree

17% Don’t mind or unsure

17% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Figure 13: Standard setting: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

A clear majority of assembly members supported all three policy measures, with two options securing over 80% support. The percentage who 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that each option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero was:

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes )

Ban sales of new gas boilers 29%

Changes to product standards 49%

Requirements for selling and renting 23%

Figure 14: Standard setting: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes )

Levels of 'strong disagreement' or 'disagreement' with 'ban sales of new gas boilers' and 'changes to product standards' were low – just 3% and 9% respectively. 17% of assembly members opposed 'requirements for selling and renting"; another 17% were unsure.

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Ban sales of new gas boilers 36

Changes to product standards 41

Requirements for selling and renting 27

Figure 15: Standard setting: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

The ranking vote confirmed the results of the first vote. 'Changes to product standards' remained assembly members' preferred option, followed by 'ban sales of new gas boilers'. 'Requirements for selling and renting' brought up the rear.

E.4 Incentives

Assembly members looked at four options around incentives:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Changing council tax or stamp duty

Council tax is a regular payment, while stamp duty is paid when you buy a house. The levels of either could be adjusted so that you pay less tax for a home that has lower emissions.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about changing council tax or stamp duty.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Green mortgages

This would involve government encouraging or requiring mortgage providers to offer 'green mortgages' at cheaper rates to people in lower carbon homes.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Others assembly members asked "who decides on qualifying homes" or suggested "a lump sum one-off payment off the mortgage because of concern about government involvement: poor experience of dealing with government."

Government-backed loans

This would involve government working with banks or other lenders to offer loans with low or no interest. This would spread the cost of home improvements, including for energy efficiency measures and zero carbon heating.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about government-backed loans.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Changes to VAT

VAT is currently paid on some energy efficiency and zero carbon heating products, including efficient window glazing, some boilers, and DIY insulation measures. Rates are between 5% and 20% and are added to the cost of the products. Removing or reducing this VAT would make these products cheaper.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about changes to VAT.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Some assembly members suggested that "the devil will be in the detail with all of these options."

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options around incentives. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Changing council tax or stamp duty

20% Strongly Agree

43% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

14% Disagree

11% Strongly disagree

Green mortgages

17% Strongly Agree

46% Agree

20% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

14% Strongly disagree

Government-backed loans

17% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

31% Don’t mind or unsure

1% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Changes to VAT

46% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Figure 16: Incentives: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

A majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that all four policy measures should be part of how the UK gets to net zero:

Levels of disagreement were highest for 'changing council tax or stamp duty' (25%) and 'green mortgages' (17%).

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Changing council tax or stamp duty 23%

Green mortgages 17%

Government-backed loans 26%

Changes to VAT 34%

Figure 17: Incentives: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Changing council tax or stamp duty 47

Green mortgages 44

Government-backed loans 54

Changes to VAT 65

Figure 18: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

The ranking vote confirmed 'changes to VAT' as the most popular option amongst assembly members. It also suggested that 'government-backed loans' were more supported – and more strongly supported – by more assembly members than might have been assumed from the first vote. 26% of assembly members said these loans were their preferred option and it came second in the Borda count.

E.5 Roles and powers

Assembly members looked at four options around roles and powers:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Changing energy market rules

This would involve changing the rules governing energy markets to allow more companies to compete. This could, for example, enable companies to sell energy services like 'heat as a service'.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about changing energy market rules.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Support for smaller organisations

This would involve providing support for smaller organisations to offer energy services. Organisations impacted would include small companies, co-operatives and non-profit organisations. Examples of the support they might receive include reduced tax rates, less regulation, or obligations for big companies to work with co-operatives and community organisations.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about support for smaller organisations.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Local plans for zero carbon homes

This would involve central government giving local authorities the powers and resources to develop an area-wide plan for moving to zero carbon homes.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Enforcing district heating networks

This would involve local authorities requiring developers – and possibly individual buildings and homes – to connect to heat networks.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about this policy option.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted 'conditions' that they would want to see in place for this policy to be implemented:

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options around roles and powers. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Changing energy market rules

26% Strongly Agree

60% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Support for smaller organisations

34% Strongly Agree

60% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

0% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Local plans for zero carbon homes

46% Strongly Agree

43% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

% Strongly disagree

Enforcing district heating networks

29% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

17% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Figure 19: Roles and powers: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

A clear majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that all four options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero, with three options securing over 80% support:

Levels of disagreement were very low. No assembly members disagreed with 'support for smaller organisations'. Only 'enforcing district heating networks' saw disagreement levels reach higher than 6% (18% of assembly members 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed' with this option).

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Changing energy market rules 26%

Support for smaller organisations 17%

Local plans for zero carbon homes 40%

Enforcing district heating networks 17%

Figure 20: Roles and powers: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Changing energy market rules 51

Support for smaller organisations 55

Local plans for zero carbon homes 70

Enforcing district heating networks 34

Figure 21: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

The ranking vote suggested that the option assembly members most want to see implemented is 'local plans for zero carbon homes.'

Policy options – conclusions

Assembly members examined policy options in five areas:

Under 'information', a majority of assembly members backed proposals for carbon MOTs for houses and information and support either provided or funded by government. Assembly members did not back the idea of information and support provided and funded by private companies, citing concerns including potential bias.

In terms of 'fairness and consumer protection', assembly members strongly supported the idea of simpler consumer protection measures, suggesting for example that they would make rules easier to understand, help ensure problems are fixed quickly and protect the vulnerable. A majority of assembly members also supported both government help for everyone and government help for poorer households, with a small majority preferring help for everyone. Their rationale for this preference included that help for everyone would incentivise more people to make changes.

Again under the 'fairness' theme, assembly members were divided about whether it was better to raise money through adding to all householders' energy bills or through taxation and government borrowing. A small majority of assembly members preferred 'adding to all householders' energy bills' when faced with a straight choice between the two options. However this idea was also more controversial with more assembly members overall saying that they agreed with taxation and government borrowing.

Under 'standard setting', large majorities of assembly members backed a ban on sales of new gas boilers (from 2030 or 2035) and changes to product standards to make products more energy efficient and 'smart'. Their rationale for supporting the ban on new gas boilers included that it would encourage innovation and better technology, and allow people time to plan. They felt that changes to product standards would make products more energy efficient and save people money in the long-run, among other benefits. A majority of assembly members, albeit a smaller one, also supported requirements for selling and renting.

In terms of 'incentives', a large majority of assembly members backed changes to VAT on energy efficiency and zero carbon heating products, commenting for example that it would encourage and promote retrofitting by making prices lower. A majority of assembly members also supported changing council tax or stamp duty so that people pay less for homes that have lower emissions and green mortgages. A small majority backed government-backed loans for energy efficiency measures and zero carbon heating.

Under roles and powers, large majorities of assembly members backed supporting smaller organisations to offer energy services, local plans for zero carbon homes and changing energy market rules to allow more companies to compete. A smaller majority also backed enforcing district heating networks.

The following table shows all 19 policy measures backed by a majority of assembly members.

PolicyPolicy area% assembly members who ‘agreed’ or ‘strongly agreed’ that it should be part of how the UK gets to net zero

Supporting smaller organisations to offer energy services

Roles and powers

94%

Simpler consumer protection measures

Fairness and consumer protection

92%

Changes to product standards to make products more energy efficient and ‘smart’

Standard setting

91%

Local plans for zero carbon homes

Roles and powers

89%

Ban sales of new gas boilers

Standard setting

86%

Changing energy market rules to allow more companies to compete

Roles and powers

86%

Changes to VAT on energy efficiency and zero carbon heating products

Incentives

83%

Information and support funded by government

Information

83%

Information and support provided by government

Information

72%

Government help for everyone

Fairness and consumer protection

69%

Government help for poorer households

Fairness and consumer protection

68%

Enforcing district heating networks

Roles and powers

66%

Requirements for selling and renting

Standard setting

65%

Raise money through taxation and government borrowing

Fairness and consumer protection

65%

Changing council tax or stamp duty so that people pay less for homes that have lower emissions

Incentives

63%

Carbon MOTs for houses

Information

63%

Green mortgages

Incentives

63%

Raise money through adding to all householders’ energy bills

Fairness and consumer protection

54%

Government-backed loans for energy efficiency measures and zero carbon heating

Incentives

54%

Assembly members' consideration of the pros and cons of all the policies above – and the conditions they suggested for their use – provide detailed insights for policy-makers.

F. Anything else to tell government and Parliament

At the end of weekend three, assembly members had the opportunity to add any further thoughts on heat and energy use in the home and the path to net zero. We have divided comments into nine themes to make them easier to navigate.

UK-wide leadership

The role of local authorities
Transparency, information and education
Public mood
Planned transition
Cost and tax
Urgency and getting started
Global
Other

Conclusions

Assembly members' recommendations on heat and energy use in the home show a strong push for action.

Assembly members emphasised the need for a long-term strategy with a wide range of actors taking steps to move the sector towards net zero; assembly members strongly supported roles for government investment (80%), local solutions ( 80%), individual responsibility (80%) and market innovation (80%).

They also gave strong backing to a wide range of specific measures to create change. A majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 19 policy measures on heat and energy use in the home should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Policies supported by at least two-thirds of assembly members were:

  1. Support for smaller organisations to offer energy services (94%);
  2. Simpler consumer protection measures (92%);
  3. Changes to product standards to make products more energy efficient and 'smart' (91%);
  4. Local plans for zero carbon homes (89%);
  5. A ban on sales of new gas boilers from 2030 or 2035 (86%);
  6. Changes to energy market rules to allow more companies to compete (86%);
  7. Changes to VAT on energy efficiency and zero carbon heating products (83%);
  8. Information and support funded by government (83%);
  9. Information and support provided by government (72%);
  10. Government help for everyone (69%);
  11. Government help for poorer households (68%);
  12. Enforcing district heating networks (66%).

Assembly members' discussions on the above measures and on the 'in the home' theme more broadly showed a number of consistent themes :

Assembly members' discussions on home retrofits and zero carbon heating picked up on many of these themes:

The 23 considerations for government and Parliament that assembly members identified at the start of their discussions – along with the rationale and conditions assembly members noted throughout – provide a valuable guide for policy-makers working on heat and energy use in the home and the path to net zero.

What we eat and how we use the land

Summary of recommendations

  1. Assembly members put forward eight considerations for government and Parliament to bear in mind when making decisions about food, farming, land use and the path to net zero. These focussed on:
    1. Providing support to farmers;
    2. Information and education;
    3. Using land efficiently;
    4. Rules for large retailers and supermarkets;
    5. More local and seasonal food;
    6. Making low carbon food more affordable;
    7. Some, just less, meat;
    8. Considering net zero as part of planning policy and new developments, including support for allotments.
  2. Assembly members' preferred future for food, farming and land use in the UK centred around:
    • Local produce and local food production – for a wide range of reasons including community benefits, fairer prices for farmers, a 'feel good factor' and reduced environmental impacts;
    • A change in diet to reduce meat and dairy consumption by between 20% and 40% – the assembly stressed the significance of education, saying these changes should be voluntary rather than compulsory;
    • A "managed diversity" of land use, including steps such as restoring woodlands, peatlands and gorselands.
  3. Assembly members highlighted the need for the above to be combined with support for farmers to make the transition, and policies to ensure changes do not disproportionality affect the less well off. Assembly members said changes should not compromise animal welfare, and expressed strong concerns about GM and lab grown food. They asked for policy-makers to take into account the implications for smaller farms, the suitability of different land for different uses, and differences in impact between UK regions.
  4. Assembly members showed strong support for policies to change both farming, food production and land use, and retail and individuals' behaviour. At least two-thirds 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that nine policies should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. These included:
    • Emissions labelling for food and drink products;
    • Information and skills training for those who manage the land;
    • Low carbon farming regulations;
    • Paying farmers and other landowners to use their land to absorb and store carbon;
    • Amending the procedure for awarding government contracts to give preference to low carbon food producers and carbon storing products;
    • Changing planning rules so that food can be produced sustainably in a wider range of areas.

What we eat and how we use the land

Assembly members looked at food, farming and land use together because of the impact they have on one another. In total, about a tenth of the UK's greenhouse gas emissions come from farming and others ways we use the land.

Land in the UK is mainly used for farming.87 This means it is used for purposes such as growing crops and grazing animals. Only a small amount of land is left natural or used to plant trees. To get to net zero emissions this needs to change. The UK will need to reduce the amount of land used for food production, while still producing enough food. It will need to use more land to help remove carbon dioxide from the air (see chapter nine) or grow crops to burn for energy (this is called bioenergy – please see chapter eight). This will affect what we can eat.

What we eat also affects greenhouse gas emissions in other ways. How much we eat and waste, how food is produced, and how far it is transported, can all have an impact on emissions.

What did the assembly consider?

Thirty-five assembly members considered the topic of what we eat and how we use the land. We selected these assembly members from the assembly as a whole using random stratified sampling. This ensured that they remained reflective of the wider UK population in terms of both demographics88 and their level of concern about climate change.

These assembly members heard a wide range of views on the future of food, farming and land use for the UK, and how we might move towards that future. They had the opportunity to question each speaker89 in detail. These evidence sessions took place at weekend two of the assembly.

Assembly members spent weekend three of the assembly discussing the evidence they had heard and their own views in-depth, before reaching conclusions on three separate areas:

  1. Considerations: the overarching considerations that government and Parliament should bear in mind when making decisions about food, farming and land use and the path to net zero;
  2. Futures : what the future of food, farming and land use should look like;
  3. Policy options: how the UK should move toward this future.

Assembly members also had the opportunity to discuss and add anything else they wanted to say to government and Parliament about food, farming, land use and the path to net zero. Assembly members' views on the implications of Covid-19 for this topic are touched on in Chapter 10.

A. Considerations

Assembly members reached their first decisions on food, farming and land use by discussing their answers to the following question:

What considerations should government and Parliament bear in mind when making decisions about food, farming and land use and the path to net zero?

Assembly members thought about their answers to this question individually. They then discussed their views in small groups at their tables, with each table agreeing their five top considerations. These top considerations had to, between them, represent the range of views at the table.

Facilitators took the top considerations from each table and grouped similar options together to create a list on which assembly members could vote. They checked this list back with assembly members to make sure they had accurately reflected their views. This included making any necessary adjustments. Each assembly member could vote for the four options that they felt to be most important.

The results were as follows. The wording of the considerations in the table is either word for word what assembly members wrote on their option cards or, where facilitators combined similar options from several tables, how they described the options to assembly members prior to the vote.

RankConsideration% assembly members who chose it as a priority

1

Provide support to farmers – including financial and professional/skills focussed support. Some assembly members noted that any schemes needed to “consider the respective impacts of arable and livestock farming.”

89

2

Information and education– from an early age about “greener and healthiereating habits”. This category also included suggestions for “carbon footprint labelling”.

86

3

Use land efficiently– including:

  • “Use the land differently to absorb more carbon” (e.g. “planting forests not trees”, restoring peatlands);
  • “Increased support for and collaboration between farming, forestry, land management and land owners to balance the need for sustainable food production with biodiversity and reduction of harmful emissions”, and other considerations such as flood prevention.

66

4

Rules for large retailers / supermarkets– including:

  • Addressing pricing structures and the low prices imposed on farmers;
  • Reducing food waste and packaging.

46

5

More local and seasonal food– including:

  • Active promotion, encouragement and support of local, seasonal and home-grown food options, including allotments;
  • Support for people on low incomes to be able to access and cook/use healthy local foods;
  • The UK becoming more self-sufficient;
  • Cheaper, local food.

40

6

Make low carbon food affordable– including:

  • “Mak[ing] low carbon, healthy and home cooked food affordable (and vice versa)”. Some assembly members suggested “meat and dairy subsidies [should be put] towards making vegetarian and vegan alternatives more affordable”

34

7

Some, just less, meat

29

8

Part of planning policy and new developments, including allotments

14

B. Futures

After deciding their most important considerations, assembly members moved on to look at the future of food, farming and land use for the UK.

To aid them in this process, the Expert Leads presented assembly members with three scenarios for possible futures:

Together these scenarios cover a broad range of views about what could happen to food, farming and land use to help the UK meet its 2050 net zero target.

Assembly members discussed each of the scenarios or 'possible futures' in turn, before voting on them by secret ballot.

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each possible future in turn.

B.1 Smarter farming

This scenario would involve making farming more efficient and using more land to store carbon. It would feature changes for businesses but not individuals.

What business would do:

What individuals would do:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly noted conditions to their support for this scenario or points they would want taken into account around its implementation. These included suggestions around:

Some assembly members also suggested that the "transition can only happen on land that is suitable (e.g. Yorkshire sheep farming won't be able to convert)" or wondered whether "we [can] look outside of the UK for solutions to land restriction challenges."

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received limited support from assembly members. Please see below for the results of the vote.

B.2 Eating differently

This possible future would involve farmers, retailers and individuals taking steps to reduce food waste and choose lower-carbon foods. It would feature changes for businesses and individuals.

What business would do:

What individuals would do:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this possible future, or points they would want taken into account if it is implemented:

One assembly member commented that they would want to see more technological change added to this possible future to reduce carbon emissions further.

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received considerable support from assembly members.

B.3 Local food and rewilding

This possible future would involve fundamental change in food systems and landscapes, towards local production and more space for biodiversity. It would feature changes for businesses and individuals.

What business would do:

What individuals would do:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. Assembly members tended to be consistent in what they saw as the main pros of this option, with strong support for the idea of local produce and food production. Assembly members were more divided about the cons, with smaller numbers of assembly members picking up a number of different points.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this possible future, or points they would want taken into account if it is implemented:

When we asked assembly members to rank the possible futures in their order of preference, this scenario received considerable support from assembly members.

Cross-cutting comments

A small number of assembly members made cross-cutting comments about the possible futures. Some highlighted the "differences in farming in rural areas vs urban areas – very different problems and solutions required." Others noted again the need to consider the impact and suitability of different land uses, such as forestry, for different parts of the country and types of land.

Some assembly members suggested that all three possible futures "need to be combined when developing policy" or that the "scenarios include lots of proposals but only some of them are agreed with." These two points are picked up in more detail in the next two sections.

Some assembly member re-emphasised their concern about GM and lab grown food, noting the "risks" of these types of food and the fact they had "triggered lots of concerns" at the assembly. Some also highlighted that these foods "could be received with lots of opposition" by the wider public. Conversely a smaller number of assembly members felt that the assembly did not hear enough information about genetically modified food and expressed concerns that "our response was therefore based on preconceptions not evidence."

Vote results

Assembly members voted on the possible futures by secret ballot. The ballot paper asked them to rank the possible futures in their order of preference.

The votes were counted in two ways:

Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Smarter farming 26%

Eating differently 35%

Local food and rewilding 38%

Figure 1: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

Smarter farming 25%

Eating differently 41%

Local food and rewilding 38%

Figure 2: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

The results of the votes consistently show greatest support amongst assembly members for 'eating differently' and 'local food and rewilding'. 'Local food and rewilding' received slightly more first preference votes. 'Eating differently' scored slightly better in the Borda count. In both votes the difference is minimal.

Assembly members who chose 'local food and rewilding' as their first preference wrote positive reasons for their choices on their ballot papers, focussing on why they liked this future. Their explanations always mentioned a range of reasons, not just one. Points that came up frequently included those around:

Smaller numbers of assembly members suggested that this future would result in better pricing and food quality for consumers, or that it would reduce the likelihood of intensified farming for livestock, thus promoting animal welfare.

Some assembly members who supported this future noted caveats to their support. These touched on concerns around GM and lab grown foods, animal welfare and the need for changes in land use to take account of regional differences:

"The decrease and reuse of land for livestock is a good thing as long as that is practical for that region (some areas are no good for anything but sheep)."

One assembly member said that they would want the change in meat and diary to be 20% not 40%.

Assembly members who chose 'eating differently' as their first preference gave a range of reasons for their choice on their ballot papers. Two themes that recurred several times amongst their answers were the ideas of:

Several of the rationales talked about this future in relation to the other two. For example:

"I think all of the options are good but smarter farming wouldn't be enough on its own and I can see issues with the 3rd option that would need to be addressed first, e.g. teaching people how to change their diets and cook healthy, nutritional meals from scratch. Also 40% less livestock land may be too big a jump. [….] So option 2 was my favourite on balance but I do still support the other options and believe we will need to use a combination of all of them over a number of years to eventually work towards the best option (somewhere between 2 and 3)."

"I don't like any of the scenarios, this is the best of a bad lot. I don't encourage GM crops in any way, or lab grown meat. However, I do acknowledge the need to change. I worry though that a drop in meat production and dairy will always affect the poorer and families more than the rich…."

These last two quotes raise themes noted by a number of assembly members. They are addressed more fully directly below.

Futures – conclusions

Assembly members' discussions on the possible futures presented a nuanced but clear picture of their views on food, farming and land use.

A number of assembly members made comments in group discussions and on their ballot papers about either: (1) liking all of the futures and feeling that they needed to be combined; or (2) not liking any of the futures because they disagreed with some elements of each of them. Some assembly members said they "wanted the good bits" of all of them.

These comments fit with some clear themes emerging from assembly members' discussions. In general, assembly members tended to express support for:

Assembly members noted strongly on several occasions the need for the above to be combined with support for farmers to make the transition. This was also their top consideration (please see Section A above).

Areas where some assembly members expressed strong concerns were:

Some assembly members also spoke at various points about the need to ensure that any changes and related measures took account of smaller farms, the suitability of different land for different uses, and differences in impact between UK regions .

C. Policy options

After considering the future of food, farming and land use in the UK, assembly members moved on to consider how we might get there. Specifically they looked at policy options in two areas:

For each of these areas, the Expert Leads recapped and explained potential policy options. Assembly members discussed these ideas in their groups before voting by secret ballot. They were also able to note additional suggestions.

C.1 Changing farming, food production and land use

Assembly members looked at six options for changing farming, food production and land use:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Low carbon farming regulations

This would involve:

This could involve extending existing rules that make it illegal for farmers to use artificial fertiliser where it is likely to run-off into water sources.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about low carbon farming regulations.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this policy option, or points they would want taken into account if it was implemented. They suggested a need for:

Others said their support for the policy would depend on the detail of how it worked, for example: "What percentage of land would farmers be required to keep as that? Which farmers would receive payments?" Others commented that "regulations [would] have to be fair for farmers" or that "although it is more expensive at first, in the long run it is cheaper as it has higher efficiency for farmers."

Payments for carbon storage

This would involve farmers and other landowners earning money for using their land to absorb and store carbon, for example by restoring peatland or planting trees. Payments or incentives could also be provided for food producers who increase productivity or efficiency – in other words, who produce as much or more food using less land.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about payments for carbon storage.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this policy option, or points they would want taken into account if it was implemented:

Some assembly members suggested "use the land that can't be used for arable."

Grants for research and development

This would involve grants for food producers to support research and technology development. The research and development could focus on making agricultural practices more sustainable, and/or on reducing the costs of meat and dairy made in labs.

There could also be a dedicated fund providing loans to help food and farming businesses shift to lower-carbon practices.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about grants for research and development

Pros

Cons

A small number of assembly members noted conditions to their support for this policy option, or points they would want taken into account if it was implemented. Some suggested that "impact evaluation [would be] needed to ensure that pilot schemes are actually making a real difference." Others said that "all [policy] options need to be combined " or suggested linking grants for research and development with low carbon farming regulations.

Government contracts for bioenergy and forestry products

This would involve amending the procedure for awarding government contracts to give preference to carbon-storing products. It would mean government contracts around energy or construction giving preference to bioenergy crops and forestry products (like wood for buildings or furniture). It could also include setting minimum purchase levels – guaranteeing that government will buy a certain amount of these products per year.

Providing a long-term customer base for bioenergy crops and timber would give farmers certainty that they can make money from them.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about government contracts for bioenergy and forestry products.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this policy option, or points they would want taken into account if it was implemented. Some suggested the policy should be expanded in scope:

"These shouldn't be limited to the farming industry – how about building industry using low carbon materials."

"A lot of contracts with farmers are from the private sector (e.g. supermarkets, restaurants). Need to think more widely with procurement contracts, not just government."

Others queried "will new governments honour previous contracts for bioenergy etc?"

As with previous policy options, some assembly members noted their preference for "all options need to be combined" or for those responsible to "think of farmers who can't change land use."

Changing planning rules

This would involve changing planning rules so that healthy food can be produced sustainably in a wider range of areas, including in urban areas and buildings. This could include requiring new developments to set aside space for residents or communities to grow their own food. The changes could also make it easier to locate renewables, such as wind turbines or solar panels, on farmland or elsewhere.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about changing planning rules.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this policy option, or points they would want taken into account if it was implemented. They suggested:

Information and skills training

This would involve providing information and skills training to those who manage the land in order to encourage low-carbon farming practices and other ways of reducing emissions (e.g. restoring peatlands, planting trees, growing different crops).

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about information and skills training.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members said their support for this option would depend on how it is implemented, asking "who gets trained – farmer, labourer, staff?" Others noted the need to "think of farmers who can't change land use." Some said this policy "needs to be in tandem with retailer change " or again stressed that "all [policy] options need to be combined."

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options for changing farming, food production and land use. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

Assembly members were in general very supportive of the policy options: a clear majority of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that all six policies should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. For five of the six policy options, the percentage of assembly members backing their implementation was over 80%. A comparatively smaller 60% of assembly members supported the remaining option of 'grants for research and development.'

There was also a difference in how much 'strong' support policies received. Assembly members were most likely to 'strongly agree' with 'information and skills training', 'changing planning rules' and 'low carbon farming regulations', followed by 'payments for carbon storage'.

In the ranking vote 'grants for research and development' remained assembly members' least preferred option by some distance. The main difference was that information and skills training received less support in terms of first preference votes in particular than might have been expected given the earlier result. This difference may be explained by the fact that, while assembly members generally felt it should happen, they were uncertain about how much change it would create by itself.

Figure 3 : Changing farming, food production and land use: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Low carbon farming regulations

43% Strongly Agree

46% Agree

0% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Payments for carbon storage

34% Strongly Agree

54% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Grants for research and development

14% Strongly Agree

46% Agree

29% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Government contracts for bioenergy and forestry products

26% Strongly Agree

57% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Changing planning rules

49% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Information and skills training

54% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

3% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Figure 3 : Changing farming, food production and land use: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Low carbon farming regulations 26%

Payments for carbon storage 12%

Grants for research and development 9%

Government contracts for bioenergy and forestry products 12%

Changing planning rules 24%

Information and skills training 15%

Figure 4: Changing farming, food production and land use: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Low carbon farming regulations 104

Payments for carbon storage 96

Grants for research and development 49

Government contracts for bioenergy and forestry products 79

Changing planning rules 89

Information and skills training 92

Figure 5: Changing farming, food production and land use: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

C.2 Changing retail and individuals' behaviour

Assembly members looked at five options for changing retail and individuals' behaviour:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Bans and restrictions

This would involve applying bans or restrictions to the most carbon-emitting food-types (e.g. red meat, processed foods, foods transported by aeroplanes). The rules could start by reducing the use of these foods in the public sector, for example in schools and hospitals.

Adverts for high-carbon foods could also be regulated. This could mean forcing adverts to include information about the relevant food's emissions, or banning the adverts altogether.

Other regulations could focus on food retail (restaurants, cafes, takeaways, shops/supermarkets, caterers), perhaps limiting high-carbon foods on menus, or reducing portion sizes.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about bans and restrictions.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this policy option, or points they would want taken into account if it was implemented. Many were about advertising, with most, but not all, favouring restrictions over bans:

"Allow advert[s] but [they] must have [a] message about carbon footprint"

"Ads with information about food emissions is a great way to educate people."

"Restricting high carbon advertising is great as it'll be very effective"

"[I would like to see] no adverts for high carbon foods."

Some assembly members suggested that "schools and hospitals [will] need to ensure [people are] … still getting enough nutrients." Others called for "greater scrutiny and regulation of unhealthy ingredients, mainly highly processed ingredients such as sweeteners." Some said in general that we should "not ban just restrict."

Taxes and incentives for low carbon foods

Additional taxes could be brought in for:

These charges could be targeted at producers, retailers, or consumers.

Incentives could help make low carbon food cheaper. They could include subsidies for local food suppliers (e.g. food cooperatives) if they are lower carbon. Additional discounts could be given to people on low incomes.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about taxes and incentives for low carbon foods.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this policy option, or points they would want taken into account if it was implemented:

One assembly commented that "I like the idea that adverts for high carbon foods could be targeted for regulation/banning altogether."

Taxes and incentives for reducing food waste

Taxes or incentives could:

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about taxes and incentives for reducing food waste.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this policy option, or points they would want taken into account if it was implemented. These tended to fall into two themes.

Some assembly members highlighted that "provision would have to be there for food waste" or commented "what other alternative is there for disposal of black bin bags of waste food." Others suggested there "needs to be national solutions, e.g. composting that already exists locally."

Approaching the issue from a different angle, some assembly members identified a "need to review best before policies, currently causing waste – use same policy as France, if waste food is left at the end of the day, give it to the homeless." Others suggested a need to get firms to "reduce 2 for 1 deals."

Slightly overlapping with the above, another set of comments looked at who should and shouldn't take responsibility and pay for any changes :

"Consider impact of penalising small business e.g. café owners"

"Supermarkets need to take responsibility"

"Incentives only, not taxes as it comes back to the individual"

"Mostly focus on firms as this will reduce their waste and reduce 2 for 1 deals which will lead to decreased consumer waste as well."

Government contracts for low carbon food

This would involve amending the procedure for awarding government contracts to give preference to food producers that are low carbon. Food producers are people or companies that make, process and supply food (e.g. farmers, food factories, caterers). It could also involve all public sector catering (e.g. hospital cafes, school canteens) offering plant-based alternatives at every meal.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about government contracts for low carbon food.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members commented that "contracts should include reducing food waste as well."

Labelling and information

This would involve labelling on food and drink products showing the amount of emissions that come from different foods. This could help individuals choose what they wanted to buy.

Education could also raise awareness of issues around food and food waste. This could include teaching skills like cooking and meal planning in schools.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about labelling and information.

Pros

Cons

A significant number of assembly members noted conditions to their support for this policy option, or points they would want taken into account if it was implemented.

Some talked about how to make labelling effective. Assembly members consistently emphasised that it "must be clear" and "has to be easy to understand." Some said a "traffic light system [is] needed and [should be] highly visible – simple fuel gauge traffic light labelling." Others recommended a similar idea, suggesting "labelling on food and drink to show emissions i.e. green sticker for green products. It's a way of educating people and being transparent."

Others noted that labelling "has to be available when doing online shopping as well." Others suggested a need for "independent oversight to make sure information is true and properly represents carbon footprint." Some commented "what about imports? – if you have a choice with one carbon scoring labelled, and the other without, you will probably get the product with the carbon scoring."

Another group of comments focussed on the power of peer influence. Some assembly members said "information and peer pressure on choice of food is as effective as wealth. Need more notice taken of peer pressure to change behaviour." Others said they "believe in the power of peer influence" or that we "need key influencers for all sorts of audiences, not just young people influencers."

Some assembly members said that "teaching could also cover [the] big picture – life skills, cooking."

Additional ideas

Some assembly members suggested additional policy ideas that could help to change retail and individuals' behaviour:

"New policy idea: a carbon card to reward low-carbon lifestyles"

"Include rules about where products can be placed in supermarkets to encourage low carbon choices"

"Can someone invent/distribute recyclable carrier bags"

"High carbon/low carbon menu"

"High/low carbon information on menu"

"Have a small, medium and large portion size serving at restaurants"

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options for changing retail and individuals' behaviours. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Bans and restrictions

20% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

14% Disagree

20% Strongly disagree

Taxes and incentives for low-carbon foods

37% Strongly Agree

29% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Taxes and incentives for reducing food waste

23% Strongly Agree

49% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Government contracts for low carbon food

31% Strongly Agree

46% Agree

20% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Labelling and information

77% Strongly Agree

12% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

0% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Figure 6: Changing retail and individuals' behaviour: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

Assembly members were in general supportive of the policy options: a majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that all of the policies should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The size of the majorities was however lower in general than for policies to change farming, food production and land use.

The exception was 'labelling and information' which was more popular than all the policies for changing farming, food production and land use. 77% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' that it should be introduced, with a total of 94% 'strongly agreeing' or 'agreeing'.

The most controversial policy was 'bans and restrictions'. A small majority (54%) of assembly members supported this option, while 34% 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed' that it should be introduced.

For the other options, 77% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with 'government contracts for low carbon food', 72% with 'taxes and incentives for reducing food waste' and 66% with 'taxes and incentives for low carbon foods.'

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Bans and restrictions 15%

Taxes and incentives for low-carbon foods 21%

Taxes and incentives for reducing food waste 3%

Government contracts for low carbon food 9%

Labelling and information 53%

Figure 7: Changing retail and individuals' behaviour: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero?(%)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Bans and restrictions 51

Taxes and incentives for low-carbon foods 76

Taxes and incentives for reducing food waste 58

Government contracts for low carbon food 61

Labelling and information 103

Figure 8: Changing retail and individuals' behaviour: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

The results of the ranking vote re-emphasised assembly members' strong support for 'labelling and information.' The second most popular policy in terms of both first preference votes and the Borda count was 'taxes and incentives for low carbon foods.' Whilst it received slightly lower support than some of the other options in the first vote, these results suggest that those who did support it felt comparatively strongly about it.

Bans and restrictions secured a reasonable number of first preference votes, but was again the least popular option in the Borda count.

Policy options – conclusions

Assembly members showed strong support for a wide range of policies.

Their support was particularly pronounced for policies to change farming, food production and land use :

Assembly members noted positives about the policies including effectiveness, feasibility, and co-benefits such as helping nature. They suggested 'information and skills training' was a "no brainer" and should be "available no matter what." They showed comparatively less support for 'grants for research and development' (60%). There was also strong support, albeit slightly more measured, for policies to change retail and individuals' behaviour:

Assembly members' preferred policy option in this category was 'labelling and information' (94% supported implementation). Assembly members suggested that steps in this area would allow individuals to make an informed choice, with some clearly feeling that this would have a "big effect." Assembly members put forward a range of ideas about how to implement this policy effectively.

Beyond 'labelling and information', assembly members also showed substantial levels of support for 'government contracts for low carbon food' (77%), 'taxes and incentives for reducing food waste' (72%) and 'taxes and incentives for low carbon foods' (66%). They showed comparatively less support for 'bans and restrictions' (54%). 34% of assembly members 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed' that these should be implemented.

Assembly members also put forward a number of additional ideas for policies that could help to change retail and individuals' behaviour.

D. Anything else to tell government and Parliament

At the end of weekend three, assembly members had the opportunity to add any final thoughts on food, farming, land use and the path to net zero. A large number of assembly members chose to add additional points. All of the comments came from small group discussions – and were well-supported by the assembly members in those discussions – unless otherwise stated.

About farming and farmers

Another group also commented that they wanted an "emphasis on supporting farming."

About the UK's relationship with the rest of the world
About land use and biodiversity
About education, communication and wider involvement
About a fair and managed transition
About business and waste

Conclusions

Assembly members put forward eight considerations for government and Parliament to bear in mind when making decisions about food, farming, land use and the path to net zero. These focussed on:

Assembly members' preferred future for food, farming and land use in the UK centred around:

Assembly members noted strongly the need for the above to be combined with support for farmers to make the transition, also saying that changes should take account of smaller farms, the suitability of different land for different uses, and variations in impact between UK regions. They backed measures to make sure changes do not disproportionality affect the less well off, said that animal welfare should not be compromised, and expressed strong concerns about GM and lab grown food.

Assembly members showed strong support for policies to change both farming, food production and land use, and retail and individuals' behaviour. While the former received slightly more support on average, a majority of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that all eleven policies they considered should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. In assembly members' order of preference, these policies were:

Policy optionPolicy objective% strongly agree or agree

Labelling and information about emissions from food and drink products

Changing retail and individuals’ behaviour

94%

Information and skills training

Changing farming, food production and land use

91%

Low carbon farming regulations

Changing farming, food production and land use

89%

Payments for carbon storage

Changing farming, food production and land use

87%

Government contracts for bioenergy and forestry products

Changing farming, food production and land use

84%

Changing planning rules

Changing farming, food production and land use

83%

Government contracts for low carbon food

Changing retail and individuals’ behaviour

77%

Taxes and incentives for reducing food waste

Changing retail and individuals’ behaviour

72%

Taxes and incentives for low carbon foods

Changing retail and individuals’ behaviour

66%

Grants for research and development

Changing farming, food production and land use

60%

Bans and restrictions

Changing retail and individuals’ behaviour

54%

Assembly members put forward a number of ideas about how to best implement 'labelling and information' about emissions from food and drink products. They also suggested a number of additional ideas for policies that could help to change retail and individuals' behaviour.

What we buy

Summary of recommendations

  1. Assembly members envisaged a future for 'what we buy' with five key elements:
    • Assembly members strongly supported businesses making products using less – and lower carbon – energy and materials. They backed a range of specific policies to further this aim, including 'resource efficiency targets and standards' (91%), an 'amended procedure for awarding government contracts that gives preference to low carbon companies and products' (83%), taxes on producers, products and services (83%), and 'extended producer responsibility' (79%).
    • Assembly members supported the idea of individuals repairing and sharing more, with less purchasing of new products. They backed 'measures to enable product sharing' (77%) including technical and financial support to businesses who offer sharing or renting services.
    • Assembly members' felt strongly about the need for better information to promote informed choice and changes in individual behaviour. They supported 'labelling and information about the carbon emissions caused by different products and services' (92%) and 'product labelling and information campaigns about what can be recycled and why it's important' (92%). They also backed 'advertising bans and restrictions' on high emissions products or sectors (74%).
    • Assembly members supported a range of measures aimed at increasing recycling, including ' deposit return schemes' (86%), 'increased doorstep recycling' (85%), and 'grants and incentives for businesses' to improve recycling, develop new materials and make goods from recycled materials (77%). Their preferred future included businesses doing more to turn old products into new ones.
    • Assembly members called for long-term commitment from government and Parliament. They emphasised the importance of cross-party support to prevent policies changing when governments change, as well as the need to look at both quick wins and long-term solutions.
  2. Some assembly members raised additional points for government and Parliament to consider around a need to take account of imports, ring-fence any tax revenue generated by the above policies, and protect consumers from increased costs. Some also highlighted trust and compliance issues relating to business, asking for transparency, honesty, strong enforcement, and reliable and independent information and schemes. Assembly members welcomed measures that would create additional job opportunities and stressed the need for a Just Transition.
  3. Assembly members were also clear about what they did not support. They did not back voluntary agreements, changes to income tax or working hours, personal carbon allowances, recycling requirements or pay-as-you-throw schemes. Their concerns included that measures would be ineffective or impractical, that they would penalise the less well-off, or that they would have unwanted side-effects such as an increase in fly-tipping.

What we buy

The things we buy are linked to climate change because they use energy, and some of that energy comes from fossil fuels like oil, coal and gas.

They use energy:

Throwing away products has implications for climate change too. The UK has traditionally sent most of its waste to landfill sites. Some of this waste generates potent greenhouse gases as it rots.

Most of the emissions linked to the goods and services we purchase are produced in the UK. Some, however, are produced in other countries. For example, a lot of the electronic products we buy, such as televisions and computers, are made abroad,97 meaning that the factories that make these products release their greenhouse gas emissions overseas. This still causes climate change: the greenhouse gases end up in the atmosphere whichever country they come from. However these overseas emissions are not included in the UK's net zero target.98

What did the assembly consider?

Thirty-five assembly members considered the topic of 'what we buy' in-depth. We selected these assembly members from the assembly as a whole using random stratified sampling. This ensured that they remained reflective of the wider UK population in terms of both demographics99 and their level of concern about climate change.

These assembly members heard a wide range of views on the future of 'what we buy' for the UK, and how we might move towards that future. They had the opportunity to question each speaker100 in detail. These evidence sessions took place at weekend two of the assembly.

Assembly members spent weekend three of the assembly discussing the evidence they had heard and their own views in-depth, before reaching conclusions on three separate areas:

  1. Considerations: the overarching considerations that government and Parliament should bear in mind when making decisions about 'what we buy' and the path to net zero;
  2. Futures : what the future of 'what we buy' in the UK should look like;
  3. Policy options: how the UK should move toward this future.

Assembly members also had the opportunity to discuss and add anything else they wanted to say to government and Parliament about 'what we buy' and the path to net zero. Assembly members' views on the implications of Covid-19 for this topic are touched on in Chapter 10.

A. Considerations

Assembly members reached their first decisions on 'what we buy' by discussing their answers to the following question:

What considerations should government and Parliament bear in mind when making decisions about what we buy and the path to net zero?

Assembly members thought about their answers to this question individually. They then discussed their views in small groups at their tables, with each table agreeing their five top considerations. These top considerations had to, between them, represent the range of views at the table.

Facilitators took these top considerations from each table and grouped similar options together to create a list on which assembly members could vote. They checked this list back with assembly members to make sure they had accurately reflected their views. This included making any necessary adjustments. Each assembly member could then vote for the four options that they felt to be most important.

The results were as follows. The wording of the considerations in the table is either word for word what assembly members wrote on their option cards or, where facilitators combined similar options from several tables, how we described the options to assembly members prior to the vote.

RankConsideration% assembly members who chose it as a priority

1

Education and information for consumers– including:

  • Good, clear, accessible and understandable information, so people understand what’s going on and the impact of their choices;
  • Education and awareness to help consumers understand their choices;
  • Labelling of products (e.g. carbon scoring system – red/amber/green)

74

2

Long-term commitment from government and Parliament– including:

  • Long-term cross-party commitment from Parliament;
  • Long-term commitment from government, with no backsliding;
  • A permanent citizens’ assembly to oversee the work of Government.

69

3

Regulate and incentivise companies to produce things that last longer – including:

  • Incentivise companies to produce things that last longer;
  • Make the cost of producing high emissions products high/prohibitive;
  • Clear labelling of products to provide information (and choice) to consumers;
  • Make items more efficient and easier to repair and incentivise individuals and companies to do so.

60

4

Benefit research, manufacturing and development in UK

46

5

Place controls and restrictions on advertising of environmentally damaging products, and label them clearly as such

34

6

Include quick-wins and long-term solutions – including:

  • Scaling up things that are already working (e.g. charity shops);
  • Doing things that can be done immediately that will have the biggest impact for carbon reduction;
  • Planning and piloting longer term initiatives.

31

7

Create a culture through education to encourage minimising waste and to help establish community repair, re-use and recycle initiatives (e.g. better use of/access to dormant high street shops etc)

23

8

Take a nationwide, standard approach that makes it easy and possible for people to make changes

14

9

The polluter should pay (e.g. carbon allowance)

14

10

Be financially and geographically fair– including:

  • Not penalising the poor;
  • Measures working for urban and rural areas.

11

11

Legislation for firms to reduce packaging

0

12

Create an overall differentiated strategy to ensure those who pollute and are super rich pay more than those who are less responsible and/or are less able to pay

0

13

Maintain and promote a healthy standard of living for everyone

0

14

Incentivise consumers to make the right choices through cost/tax (i.e. higher carbon = higher cost)

0

B. Futures

After deciding their most important considerations, assembly members moved on to look at the future of 'what we buy' for the UK. To aid them in this process, the Expert Leads presented assembly members with three scenarios for possible futures:

Together these scenarios or 'possible futures' cover a broad range of views about what could happen to help the UK meet its 2050 net zero target in terms of what we buy.

Assembly members discussed each 'possible future' in turn, before voting on them by secret ballot.

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each possible future in turn.

B.1 Efficiency and old-into-new

This possible future would involve businesses making products using less energy and materials, and turning old products into new ones. Individuals wouldn't necessarily buy fewer things, but the things they buy would be less polluting. This scenario would feature changes for businesses and individuals.

What business would do:

What individuals would do:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this possible future, or points that they felt would help its implementation:

When we asked assembly members to vote on the three possible futures, this future received strong support from assembly members. Please see below for the results of the vote.

B.2 Repairing and sharing

This possible future would involve making products that last longer, and people renting/sharing more and owning less. It would feature changes for businesses and individuals.

What business would do:

What individuals would do:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this possible future, or points that they felt would help its implementation:

When we asked assembly members to vote on the three possible futures, this future received some support from assembly members.

B.3 Less stuff, more equality

This possible future would involve people earning less and buying less, with them spending more time fixing and making things. It would feature changes for businesses and individuals:

What business would do:

What individuals would do:

Assembly members discussed this possible future at their tables. They identified the following pros and cons.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for this possible future, or points that they felt would help its implementation

When we asked assembly members to vote on the three possible futures, this future received limited support from assembly members.

Vote results

Assembly members voted on the futures by secret ballot. There were two different ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each future should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the futures in their order of preference.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the possible futures should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Efficiency and old-into-new

39% Strongly Agree

58% Agree

0% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Repairing and sharing

42% Strongly Agree

30% Agree

12% Don’t mind or unsure

15% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Less stuff, more equality

18% Strongly Agree

30% Agree

18% Don’t mind or unsure

24% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Figure 1: Possible futures: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the possible futures should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

The votes from this second ballot paper were counted in two ways:

Assembly members showed significant support for two futures :

Assembly members were less supportive of 'less stuff, more equality.' 48% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that it should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. 24% 'disagreed' and 9% 'strongly disagreed'. 18% were unsure.

Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Efficiency and old-into-new 52%

Repairing and sharing 33%

Less stuff, more equality 15%

Figure 2: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

Efficiency and old-into-new 44

Repairing and sharing 40

Less stuff, more equality 15

Figure 3: Possible futures: Please rank the possible futures in order of preference (Borda count)

The ranking votes reinforced these results. 'Efficiency and old-into-new' remained the most popular future, with 52% of first preference votes. 'Repairing and sharing' came second with 33% of votes, followed by 'less stuff, more equality' with 15%. The Borda count scores followed the same pattern, although with a smaller difference in popularity between 'efficiency and old-into-new' and 'repairing and sharing'.

Futures – conclusions

Overall, assembly members backed a future in which both businesses and individuals would need to change some aspects of their current practices and behaviours.

For businesses, assembly members strongly supported a future in which they would:

They also supported steps that businesses could take to help people buy less, including making longer lasting products, and offering repair services and sharing systems.

For individuals, assembly members backed a move towards greater sharing and repairing, as opposed to buying new goods. They did not, overall support bigger shifts in how society works aimed at reducing the amount we buy, for example changes to how much people work and earn.

Assembly members consistently welcomed opportunities for job creation, reduced waste and increased recycling. They noted that sharing would work well for specific items such children's shoes, and felt it had potential benefits for communities and wellbeing.

Assembly members tended to see potential increased costs for consumers and negative impacts on specific economic sectors as concerns. They emphasised the importance of a Just Transition for those adversely affected by the changes. They also highlighted the need for plans to be realistic, suggesting for example changes to product design and information to make items easier to care for and repair.

C. Policy options

After considering the future of 'what we buy', assembly members moved on to consider how we might get there. Specifically, they looked at policy options in three areas:

  1. Reducing emissions from products and services;
  2. Buying less;
  3. Increasing recycling.

For each of these areas, the Expert Leads recapped and explained potential policy options. Assembly members discussed these ideas in their groups before voting by secret ballot. They were also able to note additional suggestions for policy measures.

C.1 Reducing emissions from products and services

Assembly members looked at six policy options for reducing emissions from products and services:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Resource efficiency targets and standards

This policy option would involve industry ensuring that it met certain levels of resource and/or energy efficiency. For example, it might mean that products could only be sold if they met rules for how long they last, whether they can be repaired or reused, and/or how much energy or materials went into making them. The targets and standards could apply to all industry or only to high-emitting sectors, such as construction and fashion.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about resource efficiency targets and standards.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Taxes on producers, products and services

This policy option would involve (a) reducing or scrapping taxes on greener products or services to make them cheaper; and/or (b) raising taxes on more polluting products and services to make them more expensive. It could include taxes on advertising that go up according to the carbon content of the product or service being advertised.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about taxes on producers, products and services.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Extended producer responsibility

Extended producer responsibility would mean that producers pay for the impact of their products and packaging on climate change. It could also include either or both of:

The UK government is already planning to introduce extended producer responsibility for packaging and may do so for other products.107

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about extended producer responsibility.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Amended procedure for awarding government contracts

This policy option would amend the procedure for awarding government contracts, so that it giving preference to low carbon companies and products. It could involve creating an approved list of low carbon technologies, products or materials (e.g. renewable energy, the use of wood in building construction, recycled materials) for use by public sector bodies.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about amending government contracts in this way.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Voluntary agreements

Voluntary agreements mean trade organisations, producers and/or retailers adopting voluntary commitments. They would commit to reducing carbon emissions from the production or use of products, and/or to only selling low carbon products. There could be rankings and awards, so that product manufacturers and sellers are publicly celebrated for low carbon performance.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about voluntary agreements

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Labelling and information

Labelling would show the carbon emissions caused by different products and services. Labels could also show which products are more durable and designed for reuse. This could be accompanied by information campaigns. These would educate individuals about the emissions caused by different products and services, and how to reduce them.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about labelling and information

Pros

Cons

No assembly members noted conditions for this policy option.

General comments

Some assembly members made general comments about policies to reduce emissions from products and services. Many of these comments touched on the idea of trust. Some mentioned it directly. Others expressed concerns about company behaviour and compliance, emphasised the need for regulation, or called for transparency:

"What a total nightmare! i.e. a minefield of complexity and avoidance, and 'gentlemen's agreements' between companies – transnational and international."

"How to regulate?"

"Penalties, charges or taxes against those who create polluting products should be made public and transparent. [There] [s]hould be real and significant fines and consequences that act as a real deterrent."

"Important for [the] 'ordinary person' to be able to trust labelling and marketing messages. Can Government reward 'honesty' and punish dishonesty."

"Like honesty and transparency … but how to be confident of [it]? Independent scrutiny body? Outside and independent of government."

Other assembly members said that "government should set standards", that we should look for "quick wins", or that they liked measures that "encourag[e] better design." Some said they "like [the] suggestion of [a] Carbon Tax that applies to all companies regardless of where they're based ifthey trade/operate in [the] UK."

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options for reducing emissions from products and services. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Resource and efficiency targets and standards

54% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

3% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Taxes on producers, products and services

34% Strongly Agree

49% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Extended producer responsibility

49% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Amended procedure for awarding government contracts

34% Strongly Agree

49% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Voluntary agreements

11% Strongly Agree

31% Agree

20% Don’t mind or unsure

31% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Labelling and information

11% Strongly Agree

31% Agree

20% Don’t mind or unsure

31% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Figure 4: Reducing emissions from products and services: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

A large majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that five of the six policy ideas should be part of how the UK gets to net zero:

Only a small number of assembly members 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed' with any of these proposals. No one disagreed with 'labelling and information'.

In contrast, only a minority of assembly members (42%) backed voluntary agreements, with 37% 'strongly disagreeing' or 'disagreeing' that they should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. 20% of assembly members said they were 'unsure' or 'didn't mind'.

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Resource and efficiency targets and standards 32%

Taxes on producers, products and services 9%

Extended producer responsibility 9%

Amended procedure for awarding government contracts 9%

Voluntary agreements 6%

Labelling and information 35%

Figure 5: Reducing emissions from products and services: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Resource and efficiency targets and standards 118

Taxes on producers, products and services 84

Extended producer responsibility 89

Amended procedure for awarding government contracts 83

Voluntary agreements 33

Labelling and information 117

Figure 6: Reducing emissions from products and services: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

The ranking vote largely reinforced these results. 'Labelling and information' and 'resource and efficiency targets and standards' strengthened their position as the two most popular policy options. They were followed by the three other proposals that received strong support in the first vote. Voluntary agreements remained the least popular option.

C.2 Buying less

Assembly members looked at six policy options around 'buying less':

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Advertising bans or restrictions

An advertising ban would stop polluting products or sectors, like fast fashion, being allowed to advertise. Advertising restrictions could limit advertising around towns or in other public spaces.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about advertising bans or restrictions.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Changes to income tax or working hours

This policy option could involve people on higher incomes being taxed at an increased rate (e.g. 60%+ rather than 45%). Alternatively, it could mean a limit on working hours, such as the introduction of a four-day week.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about changes to income tax or working hours.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Personal carbon allowances

Personal carbon allowances involve individuals having annual 'budgets' to 'spend' depending on the impact of their purchases. Everyone would have the same number of credits to start with, but schemes could include permission for credits to be traded or owed, like money.

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about personal carbon allowances.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation. Some said they would "prefer [an] award / reward system" as opposed to one that penalises people. Others suggested that those responsible would need to be "strict with fines ", or that it "feels like a last resort – like rationing."

Measures to enable product sharing

This policy option would involve creating systems for more shared ownership. It might include:

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about measures to enable product sharing.

Pros

Cons

No assembly members noted conditions about this policy idea.

Figure 7: Encouraging people to buy less: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Advertising bans and restrictions

40% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Changes to income tax or working hours

6% Strongly Agree

11% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

26% Disagree

49% Strongly disagree

Personal carbon allowances

11% Strongly Agree

14% Agree

17% Don’t mind or unsure

40% Disagree

17% Strongly disagree

Measures to enable product sharing

17% Strongly Agree

60% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Taxes on producers, products and services

37% Strongly Agree

46% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Extended producer responsibility

40% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

23% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Figure 7: Encouraging people to buy less: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Taxes on producers, products and services

The final two policy options that assembly members considered in this category were 'taxes on producers, products and services' and 'extended producer responsibility'. Assembly members had already discussed these policy measures as ways to reduce emissions from products and services. Here they considered whether or not to encourage people to buy less. Assembly members' views on the pros and cons of these options are included on pages 326 and 327 above.

General comments

A small number of assembly members made general comments about policies to reduce the amount we buy. Some suggested that measures in this area "will increase employment in certain roles or job types" or that "we need to learn from others." Some commented that an "increase in tax will be unlikely to change behaviours."

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options to encourage people to buy less. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

A clear majority of assembly members' 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that four out of the six policy measures should be part of how the UK gets to net zero:

Few assembly members supported 'changes to income tax or working hours' (17%) or 'personal carbon allowances' (25%). A majority of assembly members 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed' with both these policies, with levels of disagreement reaching 75% for 'changes to income tax or working hours'.

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Advertising bans and restrictions 35%

Changes to income tax or working hours 3%

Personal carbon allowances 6%

Measures to enable product sharing 15%

Taxes on producers, products and services 26%

Extended producer responsibility 15%

Figure 8: Encouraging people to buy less: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

Advertising bans and restrictions 120

Changes to income tax or working hours 27

Personal carbon allowances 62

Measures to enable product sharing 94

Taxes on producers, products and services 119

Extended producer responsibility 102

Figure 9: Encouraging people to buy less: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

The ranking vote largely reinforced these results. 'Advertising restrictions and bans' and 'taxes on producers, products and services' emerged as the most popular policy options. These were followed by the two other policies that had scored well in the first vote. 'Personal carbon allowances' and 'changes to income tax or working hours' remained the least popular options.

C.3 Increasing recycling

Assembly members looked at six options for increasing recycling:

We start by presenting the rationale for their views, taking each policy option in turn.

Recycling requirements

Recycling requirements would involve retailers and/or consumers being responsible for recycling products, with a ban on landfilling. It could eventually mean that councils do not collect 'black bin' rubbish. The requirements could be phased in over many years to allow individuals and businesses time to adapt.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about recycling requirements.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Pay-as-you-throw schemes

Pay-as-you-throw schemes involve individuals and businesses paying for waste that is not recycled (i.e. the amount of waste in their 'black bin'), but not for recycled or composted waste. The schemes could be introduced with exemptions or to reflect household occupancy (e.g. more bins for more people).

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about pay-as-you-throw schemes.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Deposit return schemes

Deposit return schemes encourage the collection of used containers, so that they can be recycled or reused. The customer pays a small sum on top of the retail price when they buy a product (e.g. a bottled or canned drink), which is refunded when the container is returned to a collection point. The bottle or can is then either refilled or sent for recycling. Deposit return schemes could be extended to incentivise individuals to sort other unwanted goods they own (e.g. clothes, furniture) for reuse, remanufacture or recycling.

The UK government has promised a deposit-return scheme for plastic, glass and possibly metal by 2023.109

Assembly members identified a number of pros and cons about deposit return schemes.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Increased doorstep recycling

Increased doorstep recycling would involve local councils providing doorstep recycling for all recyclable materials. The UK Government has said it will expect all councils to collect at least the same 'core' list of recyclable materials from householders, although the exact details / dates are to be confirmed.110

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about increased doorstep recycling.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Grants and incentives for business

This policy option would involve government providing grants to businesses to:

It could also include financial support for businesses wanting to move away from manufacturing to providing more sharing services, such as repairs or rentals.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about grants and incentives for business.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Product labelling and information campaigns

Product labelling would show more clearly and consistently which products and materials can be recycled. Labelling could be accompanied by information campaigns. These would encourage recycling and composting, and educate people about why they are important. They could also include information about which materials can be recycled.

Assembly members identified the following pros and cons about product labelling and information campaigns.

Pros

Cons

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to see in order to support this policy option, or that they felt would help its implementation:

Vote results

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options around increasing recycling. There were two ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each policy option should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the options in their order of preference. The votes from this second ballot paper were counted both in terms of first preference votes and via Borda count.

A clear majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that four of the policy ideas should be part of how the UK gets to net zero:

Only a minority of assembly members supported 'recycling requirements (46%, compared to 40% who 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed') or 'pay-as-you-throw schemes' (28%, compared to 49% who 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed').

Increasing recycling: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following policy options should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (%)

Figure 11: Increasing recycling: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (% 1st preference votes)

Assembly members voted by secret ballot on policy options around increasing recycling.

Recycling requirements 51

Pay-as-you-throw schemes 37

Deposit return schemes 102

Increased doorstep recycling 125

Grants and incentives for businesses 79

Product labelling and information campaigns 131

Figure 12: Increasing recycling: Please rank the following policy options in order of preference (Borda count)

The ranking votes largely reinforced these results. 'Increased doorstep recycling' and 'product labelling and information campaigns' emerged as the most popular options, followed by 'deposit return schemes.' 'Grants and incentives for business' scored reasonably well in the Borda count, although less well in terms of first preference votes. 'Recycling requirements' and 'pay-as-you-throw' schemes again brought up the rear.

Policy options – conclusions

Assembly members showed strong support for a wide range of measures to:

They were also clear about what they did not support.

In total, clear majorities of assembly members backed thirteen policy measures.

Policy ideaAim% assembly members who ‘strongly agree’ or ‘agree’

Labelling and information about the carbon emissions caused by different products and services

Reducing emissions from products and services

92%

Product labelling and information campaigns about what can be recycled and why it’s important

Increasing recycling

92%

Resource efficiency targets and standards

Reducing emissions from products and services

91%

Deposit return schemes

Increasing recycling

86%

Increased doorstep recycling

Increasing recycling

85%

Amended procedure for awarding government contracts that gives preference to low carbon companies and products

Reducing emissions from products and services

83%

Taxes on producers, products and services

Reducing emissions from products and services

Buying less

83%[^15]

Extended producer responsibility

Reducing emissions from products and services

Buying less

79%15

Grants and incentives for business

Increasing recycling

77%

Measures to enable product sharing

Buying less

77%

Advertising bans and restrictions

Buying less

74%

Assembly members noted a wide range of positives about these ideas. They saw benefits in measures that are proven or that they felt would make a difference. They also favoured simplicity and practicality ; policies that retain individual choice and help make it more informed ; and co-benefits such as increasing competition or improving product quality.

Some assembly members noted conditions to their support for these policies or points that they felt would help implementation of the ideas. These included a need to take account of imports, ring-fence any tax revenue generated, and protect consumers from increased costs. Other recurring themes were issues around trust and compliance relating to business ; some assembly members stressed the need for transparency, honesty, and reliable / independent information and schemes. They also advocated strong enforcement.

Assembly members did not back voluntary agreements, changes to income tax or working hours, personal carbon allowances, recycling requirements or pay-as-you-throw schemes. Their concerns included that measures would be ineffective or impractical, that they would penalise the less well-off, or that they would have unwanted side-effects such as an increase in fly-tipping.

D. Anything else to tell government and Parliament

At the end of weekend three, assembly members had the opportunity to add any further thoughts on 'what we buy' and the path to net zero:

Conclusions

Throughout their discussions, assembly members expressed consistent views on how 'what we buy' should change to help the UK reach net zero by 2050. Their recommendations entail changes for businesses in particular, but also for individuals.

They envisaged a future with five key elements:

Some assembly members raised additional points for government and Parliament to consider around a need to take account of imports, ring-fence any tax revenue generated by the above policies, and protect consumers from increased costs. Some also highlighted trust and compliance issues relating to business, asking for transparency, honesty, strong enforcement, and reliable / independent information and schemes. Assembly members welcomed measures that would create additional job opportunities, and stressed the need for a Just Transition for people and sectors adversely affected by the path to net zero.

Assembly members were equally clear about what they did not support. Assembly members did not back voluntary agreements, changes to income tax or working hours, personal carbon allowances, recycling requirements or pay-as-you-throw schemes. Their concerns included that measures would be ineffective or impractical, that they would penalise the less well-off, or that they would have unwanted side-effects such as an increase in fly-tipping.

Where our electricity comes from

Summary of recommendations

  1. Large majorities of assembly members strongly agreed or agreed that three ways of generating electricity should be part of how the UK gets to net zero:
    • Offshore wind (95%);
    • Solar power (81%);
    • Onshore wind (78%).
  2. Assembly members tended to see these technologies as proven, clean and low cost, with wind-based options suitable for a "windy" UK. Offshore wind had key additional benefits, particularly being "out of the way". Solar power was viewed as flexible in terms of where it can be located, among other advantages. Some assembly members suggested a range of points to bear in mind when implementing all three technologies. These included their location and environmental impact, progress on electricity storage, ways to incentivise and facilitate uptake, visual design, and where they are manufactured.
  3. Assembly members were much less supportive of bioenergy, nuclear and fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage – although, particularly for bioenergy, significant numbers of assembly members were unsure about its use:
    • 40% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that bioenergy should be part of how the UK gets to net zero, 36% were 'unsure', and 24% 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed';
    • The equivalent figures for nuclear were 34%, 18% and 46%;
    • For fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage the results were 22%, 22% and 56%.
  4. For some assembly members, their view on bioenergy would depend on how bioenergy is produced, including what is being burnt, how production is regulated, and therefore what its environmental and CO2 impacts are. Assembly members' dislikes about bioenergy included concerns around burning trees and crops, land use and environmental effects, as well as a feeling that better alternatives exist.
  5. Assembly members' had three main concerns around nuclear : its cost, safety, and issues around waste storage and decommissioning. Their dislikes of fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage centred on safety risks (if carbon leaked during storage or transfer), the continued use of fossil fuels, and a feeling that it only provides a "short-term", expensive solution when better alternatives are available.
  6. Assembly members did not hear detailed evidence about tidal, wave, hydro and geothermal technologies. However assembly members were in principle supportive of the use of these final four ways of generating electricity, particularly for suitable local areas.

Where our electricity comes from

How the UK generates its electricity is a central question on the path to net zero. The UK still produces a significant amount of its electricity from fossil fuels, particularly gas. This emits carbon dioxide, which contributes to global warming and climate change. All the UK's electricity generation will need to come from low carbon sources if its net zero target is to be met. The UK is also likely to need more electricity in future due to an increase in electric vehicles and electric heating.

What did the assembly consider?

All assembly members heard evidence, deliberated and voted on this topic. They heard about six main ways of generating electricity, before considering whether or not each of them should be part of how the UK gets to net zero:

The evidence session for this theme took place during the assembly's online weekends.111 It covered:

Assembly members had the opportunity to question each speaker114 in detail.

After the evidence session, assembly members discussed what they had heard. They then voted by secret ballot.

What's included in this chapter?

Assembly members had less time overall to discuss 'where our electricity comes from' than they had had for the themes covered in previous chapters. They therefore primarily focussed on just one question: which of the above six ways of generating electricity should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. Assembly members looked at this question in some depth.

This chapter presents their views in the following order:

  1. Vote results: the assembly's final recommendations on which of the six ways of generating electricity should be part of how the UK gets to net zero;
  2. Rationale and conditions: assembly members' rationale for their votes, as well as areas they would like to see considered around the implementation of each of the six options;
  3. Other technologies: assembly members' views on the technologies that they heard less evidence about – hydro, tidal, wave and geothermal;
  4. Cross-cutting considerations: points raised by assembly members that cut across all the ways of generating electricity.

The chapter ends by summarising the conclusions from across these sections.

A. Vote results

Assembly members voted on ways of generating electricity by secret ballot. There were two different ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each method should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the methods in their order of preference.

The votes from this second ballot paper were counted in two ways:

A majority of assembly members strongly agreed or agreed that three ways of generating electricity should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. In their order of preference these were:

Figure 1: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following technologies should be part of how the UK generates electricity? (%) 5

Onshore wind

44% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

12% Don’t mind or unsure

7% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Offshore wind

80% Strongly Agree

15% Agree

5% Don’t mind or unsure

0% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Solar power

51% Strongly Agree

30% Agree

11% Don’t mind or unsure

5% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Bioenergy

10% Strongly Agree

30% Agree

36% Don’t mind or unsure

20% Disagree

4% Strongly disagree

Nuclear

12% Strongly Agree

22% Agree

18% Don’t mind or unsure

23% Disagree

23% Strongly disagree

Fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage

4% Strongly Agree

18% Agree

22% Don’t mind or unsure

29% Disagree

27% Strongly disagree

Figure 1: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following technologies should be part of how the UK generates electricity? (%) 5

The other three methods saw much lower levels of support, and higher degrees of both uncertainty and disagreement. In assembly members' order of preference:

The results of the preference votes largely reinforce this picture. A majority of assembly members (65%) chose offshore wind as their first preference method, with all other options a long way behind. In the Borda count, offshore wind, onshore wind and solar were again more popular than the other methods – with onshore wind scoring slightly more highly than solar power in this vote. Assembly members' order of preference for the other methods was again bioenergy, followed by nuclear, with fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage bringing up the rear.

Please rank the following technologies in your order of preference

Please rank the following technologies in your order of preference

Onshore wind 7%

Offshore wind 65%

Solar power 12%

Bioenergy 4%

Nuclear 9%

Fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage 4%

Figure 2: (% first preference votes)

Please rank the following technologies in your order of preference

Please rank the following technologies in your order of preference (Borda count)

Onshore wind 431

Offshore wind 566

Solar power 414

Bioenergy 297

Nuclear 272

Fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage 198

Figure 3: (Borda count)

B. Rationale and conditions

This section contains:

Given the detailed nature of assembly members' comments, we have categorised the pros and cons for each of way of generating electricity under six headings:

The category titles are our words, not assembly members', and are just there to make assembly members' thoughts easier to navigate. All the content under the headings is assembly members' own.

We have kept in contradictory opinions in order to show the full range of views amongst assembly members. The results of the votes above tell you what conclusions assembly members reached having considered all these points, and the weight of feeling in support (or not) of each way of generating electricity.

B.1 Onshore wind

Onshore wind means wind turbines that are located on land. Assembly members discussed this technology in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about onshore wind.

Environmental impacts and land use

Some assembly members liked that onshore wind is "sustainable ", "renewable ," "doesn't run out" and is "environmentally friendly." Others described it as "clean energy ", "cleaner", "low carbon" and "not dirty (i.e. does not use fossil fuels)." Some said they liked that "no CO2 [is] produced (except in construction)" or that it is a "non-polluting operation."

Some assembly members labelled onshore wind "a natural way of …[generating] electricity" or noted that it "uses natural resources to produce energy." Some highlighted that there is "no waste ", "no nuclear waste" or "no residue at the end."

A number of assembly members commented on wind turbines' appearance, expressing a range of views. Some were positive commenting that they are "majestic", "pretty in the right location", "pleasant to look at on the horizon" or that they like "seeing wind turbines…[and] think they look nice, even the modern ones." Others were more muted suggesting that "some don't mind the look of them", or that "turbines are more attractive than slag heaps." Some noted that "one or two turbines can be built on their own (i.e. in industrial areas)" and that these "are not huge farms, so that makes them quite attractive." Others commented "houses aren't attractive in the environment so why do we have a problem with wind turbines?" Some assembly members presented a different view, saying "they are an eye sore, but if the potential is there this outweighs the negatives…. Other things are eye sores (e.g. power stations, masts), we have had to get used to them, we'll get used to this."

Some assembly members talked about benefits for future generations. Comments included that "we are all responsible for what happens to the world, and this is one solution." Others noted a "lack of [negative] impact for future generations" or that "they are temporary and when they are done the landscape returns and the impact is gone."

One assembly member said "if placed where it's effective, you can have dual land use."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members said that onshore wind is a "proven technology, it works, we have it already up and running." Some suggested that "no testing [is] needed" and "we know if we build more it will be fine." Others described it as a "very well researched tech …[which is] gaining traction as a well established technology", is "available now" and "practical."

Some assembly members suggested that it is "easy to do – technically" and "easy to use," including being "low maintenance," "easy to fix and maintain" and "easy to set up." Some commented that it is "easier (than off-shore) to maintain – to access and upgrade as technology improves."

A number of assembly highlighted the benefits of using onshore wind at a small scale and in strategic locations. Some assembly members suggested that "whilst 'wind farms' can be seen as a negative, for some farmers, having a single turbine to generate power can be vital." Others said that "there may be an opportunity to extend use beyond feeding into the grid to power specific factories or other sites" or that it "works on [a] smaller scale / homes as well as [a] larger scale." Some suggested that "there would be [an] opportunity to expand production in strategic locations to minimise energy lost in transmission."

Some assembly members said it is "scalable – 10 x more potential than currently so can produce lots of energy." Others noted that it can be done "at a large scale" or suggested that there is the "ability to produce a large amount of energy (even if storage [is] currently problematic)." Some assembly members commented that "it's an existing technology so can be more easily scaled up."

Some assembly members noted that "we are an island so there is always wind" or suggested that this is a "good source of energy for the UK ." One assembly member pointed out that it "can still be windy at night, unlike [the sun and] solar energy."

Other individual assembly members suggested that "you can store the energy in batteries", that "power can be moved easily" or that there's the "ability to build on existing infrastructure." One assembly member felt that it "could be used with geothermal well."

Costs, the economy and jobs

A sizeable number of assembly members described onshore wind as "low cost", "cheap", or "cheaper", with some suggesting specifically that it is "cheaper than off-shore to build, maintain and (mostly) to transmit the energy." Some labelled it "cost effective," suggesting that "production is virtually free once its built – represents good value." Some said that "costs are coming down" and that because of "economies of scale…[it] will only get cheaper." Others suggested that it is "becoming much more attractive for companies to build." Some assembly members described it as "free energy." Others said "we should be exploiting free energy, and it will be available for generations."

Some assembly members felt onshore wind would have benefits for the economy and jobs. They suggested it would be "economically good as [turbines] create a lot of on-going engineering jobs" or that "there could be a positive impact on industry in manufacturing them." Others said more generally that "we could exploit the opportunities of this technology as a country."

Some assembly talked about the potential to make and raise money. Some members suggested that there is a "possibility to make money as individuals from it", while others felt they are a "good investment for energy companies as [they] can have confidence." Some noted the "benefits from wind farms giving donations to local causes."

Public support

Some assembly members wondered whether public hostility had been "over-hyped " or was being "given too much attention":

"We were informed the Government stopped awarding contracts in 2015, when 80% of the public thought onshore wind was acceptable. Would public opinion have changed since then; would more people find it acceptable?"

More than one assembly member talked about a "local example of [a] wind farm near where I live – after initial resistance, people have accepted it." In one case they said this was because people "can see land is being used well (wasn't useful for much else, not fertile, etc.)." Some assembly members felt that "people are used to wind turbines so not so difficult to introduce" or suggested that concerns about public acceptability "should not be allowed to overly influence decision-making." Some assembly members said that onshore wind turbines may not be people's choice but they are "what people need."

Some assembly members suggested that people being able to see wind turbines is positive ; some commented that "when located in towns, it's good to make people realise where the energy comes from" or that "you can see it producing our energy and that there are no emissions."

One assembly member suggested it's "quiet."

Safety and risk

One assembly member said onshore wind is "safer compared to offshore wind."

Other

Some assembly members said that onshore wind has "very few negatives " or that "there are lots in my area – I have no problem with them. There's nothing to dislike about them." Other assembly members also expressed general support, saying they "like the idea of onshore wind", that it is "good and productive" or it's "good to see lots of it happening."

One assembly member suggested that "everyone benefits" from its use.

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about onshore wind.

Environment impacts and land use

A sizeable number of assembly members expressed concerns about land use. They noted that turbines "take land that could be used for something else" or suggested that they are "probably not the best use of land, we're a very populated nation." Others felt that it would "hinder farming and food producers" or that the land "might be better used for growing local produce", for "housing", or "for trees." Some said that "there is room for onshore wind (land space available to increase the number of turbines) but not endlessly," while others felt we "would need lots of them for it to be worthwhile – need them to take up huge amounts of land." Some assembly members said that "there is lots of demand for land use in some parts of the UK we may not be able to find appropriate sites."

The sizeable number of assembly members who commented on wind turbines' appearance had a range of views. Some disliked the "visual impact" or "local visual impact", saying that turbines "don't look nice", ruin the landscape, and are "ugly", an "intrusion", an "eyesore" or "spoil the view and nature." Some said they were "particularly concerned [about the] impact on areas of natural beauty, such as mountains." Others described them as "not scenic" and suggested that they "need to be sited away from the beaten track/somewhere it doesn't look awful." Some lamented the fact you "would see it when you are walking about" or "wonder[ed]

what they will look like in 2050: will they be rusty and unclean?" Others' dislike was slightly more muted, with some assembly members suggesting that the "visual is a concern, but not too much, as benefits outweigh the negatives" or that they're "not good for resident's views, but [it's] just one of those things – a chance you take if you live in the countryside." Some said they didn't like the "visual impact…but not that bad." Others said "they are ugly" but that "this might improve as the technology improves."

Some assembly members voiced concerns about "negative impact on wildlife " or the "impact on migrating birds," with some asking "what about endangered species, peatland, birds." Others mentioned "bird strikes, bats" whilst noting we're "glad they are taking steps to try to reduce the impact on birds."

Some assembly members noted concerns about habitat loss or "environmental impact" more generally, with some picking out hedgerows and peatland as particular areas of concern. Others said turbines "destroy natural habitat" or suggested that "the 'changed' wind that comes off the turbines can be damaging to landscapes and eco-systems." Some queried whether there are "additional risks of damage to land used in this way, eg flooding or erosion?" Others said that "there could be an impact of manufacturing on the environment (especially if imported)." Some assembly members talked about "concrete bases", "non-recyclable materials" and "cradle to grave impact – consider where they are sited and impact – e.g peatlands, road building – need to assess lifetime cost."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members disliked that wind turbines are a "variable source of energy ", labelling them "unreliable if wind not blowing", or saying they are "intermittent", "unpredictable" or that you "can't rely on wind for electricity." Some suggested that a wind farm located on the West coast "might not produce its full capacity. Do you want to take up all that land space for 85 000 wind turbines?"

Some assembly members said that "on days where there's too much [electricity] produced, [we] haven't got the facilities to store it at the moment", with others simply noting "can't store it." Some felt this meant we "should use it to generate synthetic fuel from CO2 in [the] atmosphere – in this way [we] don't need batteries or H2. Synthetic fuel has longer lasting utility than batteries and H2 needs new infrastructure."

Some assembly members commented of the location of wind turbines :

"Windfarms need to be close to where the energy is used to be more effective. But we see lots of them far away from cities. The more the energy travels, the more you lose in the transfer, so that's a problem."

Others noted that the "best places to locate the turbines might not be the places where the most energy is needed, therefore transmission costs and losses increase." Some worried that turbines might be located "in places that might not continue to supply the energy to us (i.e. Scotland if they get independence)."

Some assembly members commented on efficiency and capacity. Some suggested that onshore turbines are "less efficient than offshore" or that they "produce small amounts of energy compared to their claims." Others suggested that the "tech could be improved if made smaller – there's inertia with the bigger turbines needing more wind." One assembly member noted "I have a local windfarm and power generation is listed in energy by household (it produces energy for 1000 homes) which is nothing compared to the amount of houses in the area."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members said they disliked the "cost " or "costs of manufacture." Others said that the "price for electricity generated should be lower" or that there was "some suggestion that maintenance costs are high." One assembly member disliked that "many [turbines] are made abroad ", although another countered that "there is a lot of production in Hull."

Public support

Some assembly members said that they "can result in local controversy " particularly because of the visual impact and suggested that "local communities should be more involved in deciding whether they are located near them or not – who makes the decisions." Others said "public acceptability is a limitation" and they are "not seen as popular with the public", with some noting "personally, I don't dislike them, but I understand that others don't want them in their area."

Some assembly members raised issues about living close to wind turbines. Some noted that "living close to them means you get reflections from them like mirrors" or that they "can be distracting to look at at times – maybe better away from roads." Others said there is "noise if close but not that bad" or "noisy – but you do get used to it." Some felt the "noise impact" and "noise pollution" were more serious particularly if "scaled up": "a friend lives close to a windfarm and it makes their life miserable. Constant humming sound which can drive you bonkers." Others said that "delivery of the turbines…[is] unsuitable for small roads – disruptive."

Safety and risk

Some assembly members said onshore wind turbines are "not capable of handling strong winds " or "can be damaged by high winds so need to be turned off above a certain wind speed." Others asked "can blades be dangerous if they come off?"

Other

Some assembly members worried that turbines are "unfair on rural communities who have them while urban dwellers benefit." Others said they were "concerned about the development of large-scale wind farms in Scotland, which benefit England…, but have a negative impact on the Scottish environment and landscape."

Some assembly members said onshore wind "is not as good an option as building off-shore ."

Conditions

Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to be in place for onshore to be used, or that they felt would help its use. They highlighted a need to:

Think carefully about location

Some assembly members felt that "they have a place, but should not be located everywhere." What constituted a suitable or unsuitable place was different for different assembly members, for example:

"As long as it's in the right areas, so not on natural beauty areas, but better on useless land."

"Use land that cannot be used for other things e.g. agriculture."

"Onshore wind can also be built on marginal land without much other use, and can be integrated with other solutions for reducing our emissions (such as new forests) or placed next to other construction projects so the land required for onshore wind can be reduced even while it is massively scaled up."

"As long as not outside your house."

"…they need to be dispersed…. Don't have to be huge farms."

"There is plenty of sparsely populated land (e.g. in Northern Ireland) where you could site turbines."

"Put out of the way, e.g. motorways."

"Need to be placed in best places to ensure UK has access to the energy."

"Focus where maximum benefit and least damage."

Look at small scale uses and better visual design

Some assembly members stated a "preference for personal, small scale" as opposed to "large developments", while others suggested that there "would need to be measures put in place to minimise the size of on-land turbines as technology develops (i.e. not as big as off-shore ones)" or suggested "more focu[s] on the models without sails that have less visual impact on the landscape." Some noted that they "don't seem to have variations in the design – could it be miniaturised (i.e. on aircrafts don't have massive blades)." Some suggested that factories could "have their own windfarms to power their plants? e.g. Nissan plant has its own windfarm." Others asked whether they could "have these on our personal homes, i.e. wind trees?" or said "we could consider the use of household wind trees (aeroleaves) for household power generation. They are small and can work at low wind speeds."

Tackle public acceptability

Some assembly members felt there would be a "need to change public perception" and made suggestions about how to win round the public.

"If the public knew wind turbines are a low cost option, they might become more acceptable."

"If they were all over the place and people could see the cost benefit analysis that might help."

Consider land use

Some assembly members said that their support would "depend on how the land is used, i.e. farm around [them]" or suggested that you could "use the land for two different things" or that the UK should be "combining onshore wind turbines with other things e.g. tree cover."

Make them in the UK

Some said they would be "in favour if they were made in [the] UK – better for local jobs".

Sort out storage and infrastructure

Some assembly members said that "battery storage needs to be good and with infrastructure to support this." Others said we "need the infrastructure to get the energy to the grid and avoid wasted energy (sometimes more is available than can be used)". Some asked how we plan to dispose of the batteries.

Manage impact

Some assembly members suggested that "commercial businesses need to be managed to ensure that they don't damage the landscape" or that onshore wind needs "needs proper assessment of environmental impact."

Reinstate grants

Some assembly members said that "grants from government were stopped and need to be renewed" or that "Government support pulled for them and it needs to come back to then lower cost and give support for renewables."

Ensure security

Some assembly members suggested that we need to "protect against foreign ownership/outsourcing to ensure supply and protections."

Relax planning rules

Some assembly members suggested that "[l]ocal authorities need to be more flexible with regulations and rules relaxed."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed significant support for onshore wind in their votes.

B.2 Offshore wind

Offshore wind means wind turbines that are located at sea. Assembly members discussed this technology in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about offshore wind.

Environment impacts and land use

A significant number of assembly members commented that offshore turbines are "out of the way ", "can go a long way out in the ocean" or are "out of sight, out of mind". Some assembly members suggested this had visual benefits in not "spoiling the landscape", with some saying you "don't have unsightly turbines on the land" or that you "get the benefits of onshore turbines without the disruption of [the] natural landscape." One said "this is the proper place for wind turbines" while another noted the "aesthetic – visually nicer and appealing [than alternatives]." Other assembly members suggested offshore wind "affects fewer people than onshore ", is "further away from people's houses", or "doesn't intrude in any way– away from people so no one will have issues with noise etc". Others said they are "not in people's back gardens / in the countryside."

Some assembly members suggested that there would be "minimal disruption to wildlife ", only "[l]ow impact (on the environment)" or that this the technology that is "least disruptive to nature." Some assembly members expanded on this theme stating:

"Despite some disruption to marine habitats during construction they could actually help preserve marine life by creating 'safe haven' areas eg no fishing, no shipping."

"Overall good for environment – may have disturbed marine life when built, but then keep ships away once installed. Mussels grow on the base etc."

Some assembly members described offshore wind as "clean ", "healthy," "green energy", "renewable ", or an "unlimited source of energy." Others said it creates "no pollution" and does not produce CO2.

Some assembly members suggested offshore wind is a "better use of our resources…which in turn frees up the land." Others felt it "saves the land for other uses" or that the "land management issues associated with onshore are gone."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members said that there is "more space at sea ", "lots of space around our coastline" or that we've "got lots of water [to put them in]." Others suggested that we "could power the whole country by using just a small percentage of the seabed", that it would be "easy to increase numbers" or that it "can be scaled up massively ."

Some assembly members said offshore wind produces a "great amount of power ", has "more potential than [we] realised," or has the "capacity to provide a lot of electricity – e.g. Woley Windfarm generates enough electricity for 600,000 homes." Some suggested that it "could meet most of … demand, it can play a big part, just need something for reliability when no wind." Others said turbines are "able to be a lot larger [at sea] and produce more electricity" or that offshore turbines are "more efficient " than onshore ones. Some assembly members suggested that "offshore ones [turbines] are a lot a bigger. …[fewer] offshore produce the same amount of energy…. Means that we want to put more offshore – and reduce the onshore."

Some assembly members commented that we "already use it, know it works" or that it is "reliable" or "more reliable than other technologies." Individual assembly members suggested that it could be "a good long term solution", is "manageable" or that "we have the technology to potentially install in [a] less disruptive way e.g. oil platforms."

Some assembly members felt we should "use a resource we have plenty of – wind !" while others said there are "stronger winds at sea" or "always wind at sea". Some liked the fact "they are floatable " with some noting that "they can be moved to where the wind is (we understand that some are on platforms and can be towed)."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members felt that offshore wind could "create a lot of jobs", including "well paid high skilled maintenance jobs" or jobs in "making them/ installing etc." Some suggested that there would be "job opportunities for people formerly working on oil and gas platforms in [the] north, [meaning a] negative becomes a positive, transition of the industry." Similarly, some noted that "we have many seaside towns supporting the oil industry and so can repurpose these which is good for jobs / economy ." Others suggested we "can start exporting once its built" or that it has "export potential."

Some assembly members said offshore wind is "cheap, and getting cheaper to install" or is "cheaper than fossil fuels." Others suggested that "strategically sited they could reduce transmission costs as very few parts of the country are very far from a coastline."

Public support

One assembly member commented that "people are used to them."

Safety and risk

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Other

Some assembly members said offshore wind has "no major negative", has "very, very few disadvantages", or has "fewer disadvantages (than onshore wind)." Some labelled it the "best option by miles" and a "brilliant idea", saying "I'm all for it." One assembly member commented that "we are doing it a lot in the South East of England. It is a variable source and best to generate electricity. All positive."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about offshore wind.

Environment impacts and land use

Some assembly members disliked the visual impact of offshore wind, saying it is "intrusive" or an "eye sore" and noting you "can see [them] from the land." A few members made comments about one particular wind farm:

"It can still be an eye sore offshore (e.g. just been built off [the] beach in Aberdeen), it's a massive change but you get used to it, it's not a huge problem for me but can see an issue for others."

"Donald Trump tried to stop them – he was the only one who complained! The problem was the views from his golf course. Locals didn't mind that."

"Trump didn't like it in Aberdeen. Complained to the Local Council. Did go ahead despite taking the Council to Court."

Some assembly members were concerned about the impact on "marine animals", "sea creatures", "sea life", "migratory birds" and of "drilling into the sea bed." Some noted particular concerns about the "cables and where they come onshore and impact on things like sand," or the "construction phase…but also possibly … the wind currents they produce." Some assembly members suggested that the "impact isn't well tested/understood" or that we "might want to see more assessment of that damage." Other assembly members caveated their concerns, for example:

"Going to have some impact on marine diversity but 'you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.'"

"Concern about affecting marine life (but like what was said about initial disturbance but overall good for marine life)."

"Potential impact on birds (but of limited concern because if sited off migration routes should have limited significant impact)."

"There are minimal ecological impacts. The wildlife comes back in 20 years. Not a huge downside for me."

Some assembly members highlighted issues around pollution and ethics, noting the "use of heavy metals in the development of the batteries [for storing electricity]" and asking "how can we ethically build them." Some assembly members highlighted "mining/metals and minerals and the negative impacts they create in building the turbines – local energy better." Some assembly members felt there is a "high pollution risk, which is harder to control offshore than onshore."

Individual assembly members said they "worry about drilling underground" or had concerns about the "human impact on people that live nearby, but research is needed."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members felt that offshore turbines are "harder to maintain " or "difficul[t] to build", noting issues with "accessibility to install and maintain. " Some assembly members suggested that "you need big infrastructure to get out and maintain them." Others said that "increased maintenance costs…[are] not just because of [the] location but also because of the harsher environment."

Some assembly members questioned turbines' durability, asking whether the turbines would be "affected by storms, eg strength of wind", whether they are "safe, strong and durable" or whether the turbines will "last as long" as onshore turbines.

Another concern for some assembly members was intermittent supply and issues around storage. Some said it was "not guaranteed energy" or commented on the "unreliability of the wind", suggesting that "with Britain's changeable weather it won't work all the time." Others said it is "only efficient when windy currently – need to develop battery storage or share it with other countries." Other assembly members mentioned "concern about the storage of electricity." One assembly member highlighted " the amount of backup generation, spare capacity we have to build…", suggesting "we need almost as much spare capacity as we need generating capacity, for when the wind drops. This needs to be also a green technology or we have to sacrifice 'greenness'."

Some assembly members wondered if there would be "difficulty transporting electricity from offshore to where it's needed?" or suggested there would be a "loss of power as it's transferred."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members said there is a "big upfront cost which would take a long time to recoup [and] means people are reluctant to do it." Others said there are "big expenses/costs associated with drilling into the seabed" or said they disliked the "cost to install and maintain, compared to onshore turbines." Some assembly members highlighted "maintenance costs ": "if they go wrong would have to send a boat out specifically for that windmill. Would be quite expensive." Others commented that we "would need a lot of them and therefore [it] would cost a lot."

Some assembly members said we "need to be careful we do not have too many...[i]mpacts on fishermen." Some assembly members worried about "shipping routes" or "danger to shipping". Others commented they were "worried about the adverse effect on shipping and fishing, but Chris [Stark] confirmed that [offshore wind] only uses 1% of space so now [we are] not worried."

One assembly member disliked "paying rent to the Queen (via the Crown Estate) – one of the richest people in the world."

Public support

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Safety and risk

Some assembly members voiced concerns about "safety during installation and maintenance – similar conditions to offshore oil and gas industry which is dangerous." Others said they "don't know the downsides, not a deep sea diver, don't know the risks of building offshore turbines" or asked more generally "[w]hat happens if something goes wrong?" Some assembly members said they were "concerned about security : vulnerability of the cable that brings the power to land being attacked."

Conditions

Assembly members also noted conditions that they would want to be in place for offshore wind to be used, or that they felt would help its use. They suggested a need to:

Consider environmental impacts

Some assembly members suggested we "need to factor in [the] impact of this on [the] natural environment still" or said they "would like reassurance that this is being considered", querying whether we "fully understand their environmental impact yet." Others said we "must choose sites that don't interrupt migration routes or breeding sites for marine/bird life" or that "siting must be properly assessed with regards to environmental impacts – birds etc." One assembly member commented:

"I…think offshore wind comes with its own environmental issues, such as habitat degradation of the sea bed. It affects bird populations, particularly juveniles. So, I do think it has to be implemented correctly and the effects to the natural world need to be strongly considered whenever sites are being selected."

Resolve issues with storage

Some assembly members said there needs to be "good research into energy storage" or that we "need storage or [an]other back-up solution."

Put them out of sight

Some assembly members asked to "keep them away from [the] coastal environment / resorts" or commented "why not put them all out of sight?"

Understand risks better

Some assembly members said we "need to find out more about the risks associated with installing offshore turbines."

Integrate offshore wind with other elements of the energy mix

Comments included:

"Need to integrate [offshore wind] with other elements of [the] energy mix – e.g. float barges making synthetic fuel by turbines, and then plug this into [the] existing fuel system which is better than having to build extensive cabling back to shore. Can also add in solar, wind and wave. By 2050 this would be cheaper."

Promote UK construction and ownership

Some assembly members said they "would like to see an emphasis on British construction and ownership to ensure they are making a wider contribution to the economy."

Use floating turbines

Some assembly members particularly liked the idea of floating turbines.

Individual assembly members said their support would "depend on [the] volume (of turbines) required", that it "would be good to keep perfecting them, make them better and better" or that "there could be trade deals done with France & Ireland to share offshore wind energy consumption."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed very strong support for offshore wind in their votes.

B.3 Solar

Solar refers to solar panels that are located on homes and other buildings, or at a larger scale on land (e.g. in fields). Assembly members discussed this technology in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about solar.

Environment impacts and land use

Some assembly members said they liked that solar is a "natural source of energy" or that "we have what it uses already – sunlight!", with some commenting that "it's a good idea to use the sun." Others described it as an "infinite supply of energy" or a "regular source of energy, especially as [it] doesn't require full sun all the time, just light." Some said that "the UK has significant periods of daylight everyday", although they acknowledged differences between the north and south. Others suggested that "it's reliable and will last." Some assembly members said solar is "very clean " or a "clean form of energy." Others said there is "[n]o pollution during energy production."

Some assembly members said that it's "a simple method and a good use of land. I have experience of it and it's great!". Others suggested that you "can still use fields where solar panels are located – including for grazing. It allows a habitat to remain intact." Some said solar is "environmentally friendly" or that there is "no impact on wildlife."

Some assembly members suggested that solar panels are "not an eyesore ", are "clean looking" or "look okay." Others said that they are "less of an eyesore than turbines (particularly when located on buildings)." Some liked the fact solar is "silent" or "not in people's way", with some suggesting there is "no disruption to anyone. "

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

A sizeable number of assembly members said that they liked the fact that solar is flexible – that it "can be put anywhere" and used for many things:

Other assembly members asked "why can't all roofs have solar panels" or suggested solar panels "could help if they were on everyone's houses." Some suggested that solar "can be done at scale" or is "scalable " because it "can be put anywhere." Others liked the fact that it "could go up to 10% (of our electricity needs)."

Some assembly members said that solar is proven – that it "is used a lot around the world already", "works" or is a technology which is "established and well developed." Others said it has "established efficiency." Some described it as a "simple technology " that is "easy to develop both at large and small scale." Others suggested that it is "easy to install and maintain and can be upgraded quite easily." Some assembly members approved of the fact it "can be local to you " or is "located near homes…[so] no power loss." Others suggested that a "localised direct supply… [would] remov[e] the need for transport."

Some assembly members felt that solar "works well in partnership with other existing technologies " or "could be a (smaller) part of future energy", with "variable demand covered if combined with wind." Others suggested that it "can be combined with storage." One assembly member said it "can be integrated with existing systems." Others commented that there "is always sun somewhere in the world so it lends itself to export/import." Some wondered if we should "outsource to the Sahara where there is lots of sun" or suggested that we "could power share with other countries."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members said that solar is "getting cheaper", "not too expensive" or that the "lifetime cost is low." Some suggested that the "decreased cost of manufacture compared to when the technology was originally developed (has dropped exponentially) makes this a feasible technology." Others noted the "low cost of installation" or said that it's "free once the technology is installed."

Some assembly members pointed out the potential to make and save money. Some commented that "people can use them to lower [their] own bills" or that some people generate "so much energy that [they] can sell it back to the grid." Others noted that it can "save people who have them on their houses a lot of money" or that in the "long term [it] can be a good investment for domestic bills." Some assembly members said that "there are schemes available to support it, you can sell back to the grid/energy provider." Others said that "loans are available from (some councils) for installation on households" and one assembly member noted that they "like the concept of renting roofs to the "Council" for solar generation." Another individual assembly member shared that "when I sold my house the solar panels definitely contributed to the sale of the house (it made it easier to sell)."

Some assembly members particularly liked the idea of solar farms, suggesting that they could involve bulk buying and therefore reduced costs. Others felt that solar panels are "expensive as [an] individual cost, but solar farms [are] ok as long as they are in the right place."

Public support

Some assembly members suggested that solar "gives people individual autonomy to generate power" or that you "can choose and manage your own power supply – sense of control ." Others said it "can be individual; on own property and you can control [the] energy coming in." Some noted that you can be "independent of the national grid."

Some suggested that solar is a "a recognised technology" or that "the public understands how solar works". Others said that it is "accepted by people."

Safety and risk

Some assembly members suggested there is "no risk " or said that that they "can't see serious side effects (other than the rare earth point...)."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about solar.

Environment impacts and land use

A significant number of assembly members expressed concerns about land use. Some said that solar panels can "take up space" or that "solar fields could be put to better use." Some suggested that they could have an impact on "land for food and on habitat." Others said that there is "no space below" so "you can't have sheep", or suggested that "we need our fields for trees and plants" or for "biofuels." Some assembly members commented that "it's not good to be covering hectares of land – "big solar farms can increase the risk of flooding in areas: stops water going in[to the] soil and increases run off. Can put pressure in certain areas. Can't be used on its own." Others commented that they "don't like fields of panels" or "don't like it so much on land."

Some assembly members felt that solar panels are "not very attractive /look ugly on houses" or are "not aesthetically pleasing." Some said that "on some modern houses they look fine, on others they look anachronistic/silly – can spoil the look of a street."

Some disliked "polluting PV manufacturing", noting the "reliance on lithium and cobalt for the battery technology" and the mining of them as their particular concern. Some said there were "ethical issues " in these area and that these "apply to other variable renewables too." For other assembly members concerns centred on the "impact on [the] local environment and biodiversity …primarily because of the surface heat produced."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

A sizeable number of assembly members suggested that "we're not a sunny country all of the time – shortens the timespan for being able to generate the electricity, particularly in winter which is when we need the most energy for heat/light." Others said that we're a "miserable overcast country", "power output [is] not when people use most electricity", or that solar is "not viable because of reliability." Some suggested that "solar does have a place in the Sahara desert…[c]ould put huge farms [there], but not so much a place for it in the UK." Others objected to the fact that solar only works "during daylight" or lamented the "lack of night-time generation, i.e. if no battery storage."

Some noted the potential for particular problems in the North, suggesting that "shortened daylight hours in the North may make it less viable to rely on / more subject to variance and may require substantial transmission of the energy generated (including loss and cost factors)."

Some said there "are limits to its scale in UK" or that "when productivity is low (e.g. winter) [we] would still need a baseline supply from another non variable source." Some assembly members caveated their dislike, suggesting that "if storage is possible in batteries for later use, then there is potential." One assembly member said it "can't be the only solution."

Relatedly, some assembly members said that there would need to be "investment in batteries/storage problems " or suggested that "questions remain about storing the excess – needs to be efficient in storing energy." One assembly member commented on "grid capacity – more energy being produced than can be used / stored and therefore creates wastage."

Examining suitability from a different angle, some assembly members suggested that solar panels wouldn't work for every building because they "cannot work for people in flats or high rises – so there is an equity issue". Others said that "not every house is suitable (don't have south facing roofs)." Some expressed doubts about how much electricity solar generates or its efficiency, suggesting that they "only generate a small amount", that "amount of electricity they generate is questionable", or that they are "not powerful enough to power the house." Others suggested that they are "less efficient than wind", or that people are "struggling to improve [them] and make [them] more efficient."

Some assembly members suggested that "installations only have a short life ", "need to be kept clean " or "need [to be] upgraded every few years."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members disliked the "cost of installations", suggesting the solar panels are "expensive to put in at the moment" or that "installation costs are something people have to pay up front which could be a barrier." Others suggested that solar panels represent "poor value for [the] average person in a house as there's a slow payback." Some assembly members said that they "can't afford the capital outlay to pay for them," noting that the price "has come down over the last ten years" but is still "£10k for the panels and then more for battery storage." Some reported that the "batteries to store the solar power are expensive – this is a disincentive". Other assembly members said that installing solar panels results in an "increase of business rates and [is] therefore not cost effective"; they suggested that "government needs to step up and change that."

Some assembly members noted a lack of incentives, saying that the "reduction in feed in tariffs has become a disincentive", that "government has stopped giving you money to have it on your house" or that "deals used to be available but aren't any more."

Some assembly members said there were "potential implications when selling houses " or talked about "problems with insurance/ selling houses", suggesting that "legislation needs to change on this."

Individual assembly members said solar is "underfunded and needs more research: or asked "how will it get paid for? Should not be only homeowners who need to pay." One assembly member suggested there is a "danger that developers who can't get planning permission to build on green belts are building solar farms to earn money."

Public support

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Safety and risk

One assembly member expressed "concern about outsourcing to areas (Sahara example) as we don't want to be dependent on others."

Conditions

Assembly members also noted conditions that they would want to be in place for this technology to be used, or that they felt would help its use. They suggested a need to:

Resolve issues around batteries and storage

Some assembly members said they "do not have to be chemical batteries, other methods are available and should be considered," or that "there needs to be suitable ways of managing batteries and the materials in them (concerns about hazardous materials and recycling)." Others said battery storage being available "is a condition" of their support for solar and that "battery research is needed." Some assembly members disagreed with points about batteries, saying that "our task is carbon emissions, so the battery concerns are a smaller issue."

Make it cheaper

Some assembly members said it needs to be cheaper: "if the price comes down, people will put them on their homes." Others suggested "incentivis[ing] the buildings that use electricity during the day to have solar panels (offices, factories etc)." On a similar theme, some assembly members commented that you "need to invest to make it cheaper" with some noting that there "should be government subsidies again as people were benefitting from them", or grants, or "interest free [government] loans." Conversely, some assembly members said they had "concerns about whether subsidies should be put here", querying "is it worth it" or suggesting it "should only be done where there is enough sun, i.e. in the South." Others suggested "mass production (if there were panels on every home) the cost would come down a lot."

Change regulations

Some assembly members said "at the minute you have to get approval to fit panels (we think from Building Control) – should be reversed so that it is a requirement (or at least incentivised)." Others said we should "chang[e] building regulations to ensure that every new build has to have solar panels fitted although 2016 legislation to have solar fitted to homes was rescinded because of pressure from developers." Some assembly members said that they "also like Tesla roof panels, which are cheaper and act as a roof."

Look at who pays

Some assembly members suggested that "power companies should pay for installation, not homeowners (rent a roof schemes)." Others agreed saying it "should not be only homeowners who need to pay."

Think about different types of building

Some assembly members commented on different types of building that could have solar panels. These included new builds with some suggesting that "…solar panels should be mandatorily installed on all new buildings to feed into the grid", that "new housing in the South should all have solar panels fitted when they are built as part of the planning permission", or that "solar panels should be made compulsory on all new house builds. Government can set a date and costs will tumble." Comments about other types of building included:

"Should be government guidance that suggests every public building should have it… [This] seems like a sensible, logical solution."

"Need to be putting them on commercial buildings in the south."

"Make it mandatory for commercial buildings to use roofs for solar capture."

"Any building that could have solar panels should have them on it and community and public buildings should have panels on them that can be shared with the local community."

"Solar panels should be installed on all possible roof areas, private homes & business. This should be installed & managed by the energy companies with a small roof rental fee paid to the owner of the building. No expense to home owner and all electricity uploaded to the national grid."

Target the right areas and houses

Some assembly members said that "solar is more variable than wind and therefore probably most suited to certain parts of the country. Therefore support would be conditional on it being developed in the right areas where the technology will work best, rather than [it being] a default option." Others said that whether it's a good idea "depends on orientation of [the] house (better when south-facing) – you can get solar panels with motors on them which move around to catch more of the sun as the day goes by."

Consider land use

Some assembly members had opposing views about land use. Some asked to "avoid farming land", with some saying they would "rather have wind if [we're] going to use farm land for electricity generation." Others said that we "should make better use of solar panels in fields, e.g. where sheep are already grazing" or that "solar farms should allow for crops or animals e.g. sheep to graze underneath and possibly more direct light to enable grass and quick growing crops to grow." Some assembly members asked "whether it would be possible for solar and wind power sites to be co-located (a layered array) as this could be a more efficient use of land." Other assembly members asked whether it is possible to "attach solar panels to windmills?"

Promote equality

Some assembly members said they "would like to see more equal availability, e.g. people who live in high-rise flats can't put up panels."

Improve visual design

Some assembly members said solar panels would "need to be visually good looking – more presentable as part of the building e.g. solar roof tiles." Others asked if there "are ways to make them look nicer" or wondered if there could "be better control of how they're administered so they fit in visually a bit more?" Conversely, some assembly members said we "have to accept that things aren't going to look nice to deal with climate change" or that we "need to take a holistic view on whole impact."

Improve efficiency and scale

Some assembly members said that "efficiencies need to be improved, ideally getting more energy out of smaller solar [panels]." Others said it "needs to be scaled up to meet demand and part of a combined solution with wind."

Conduct more research

Some assembly members said it's "underfunded and needs more research."

Two assembly members made further points:

"Our lifestyle behaviour would have to change to accommodate using renewables efficiently (which appliances get used at which time in the day etc)."

"Alternative solar – i.e. focusing sunlight onto a hotbox (i.e. a dark box to absorb heat). These are cheaper to construct and can be used to generate energy."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed significant support for solar in their votes.

B.4 Bioenergy

Bioenergy means burning wood or crops to generate electricity. Assembly members discussed this technology in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about bioenergy.

Environment impacts and land use

Some assembly members liked "the cycle of carbon capture and release and the balance" or the "cyclical nature of the process." Others noted that it "takes CO2 out of the atmosphere, but then puts it back out, but this is a balanced system." Relatedly, some assembly members described bioenergy as "carbon neutral " or suggested it "can be carbon neutral if done right." Others said it "emits little to no net greenhouse gas emissions" because of the "cycle".

Some assembly members liked that bioenergy is "renewable ", suggesting that "with fertile soil we should always have a renewable source." Others said that "pellets are a straight replacement for coal and therefore [a] more reliable form of electricity. We know exactly what we can produce."

Some assembly members said that they "'love [the] idea of growing more crops " or "growing trees to absorb CO2 ." Some noted that "crops like willow are native/indigenous trees." One assembly members said it's "better for environmental health as no radiation …[unlike] nuclear."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

A sizeable number of assembly members liked when bioenergy "uses waste" saying it "makes sense when it's an off product" or "if it already exists and [we] need to get rid of it, that's great." Assembly members talked about different kinds of waste:

Some assembly members liked that bioenergy can produce useful by-products. Some said you can "use heat as a by-product" or "use waste as fertiliser at the end." Some suggested that producing heat "could be especially positive if developed in localised ways – providing both [heat and electricity] to communities." Others noted that you can also create "fuels (e.g. ethanol from sugar beet."

Some assembly members liked that "existing power stations can be converted to use biofuels ." Their reasons included that:

Some assembly members suggested that bioenergy "could be useful" in "some places …e.g. waste products, handling food waste BUT [is] not [the] main solution for energy." Others said it "has its place in aviation or other areas where we usually use fossil fuels" or that it "provides a good back-up supply." Some assembly members said that "because it's constant…it could partially fill a gap for when other renewables are being variable (e.g. wind and solar)."

Some assembly members suggested that it's "scalable ", "could produce a high percentage of our energy" or "generates lots of energy." Some said they liked its "efficiency " or noted that it "only takes two years ."

One assembly member said "when a tree decomposes it will release the carbon…, so when burning it you're making use of something that's going to happen anyway." Other points made by individual assembly members were that "it is doing well so keep doing it", that you "could use abandoned or derelict land e.g. former mines" or that "you can produce this in different ways." One commented "you are storing energy."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members suggested that bioenergy creates "income for farmers" or is "good for second generation farmers that don't want to be investing time in land management – can grow crops easily." Others said that it "could be beneficial for farmers looking to change land use as we move away from as much animal farming."

A number of assembly members said that it's "cheaper than extracting fossil fuels" or can be "stored with minimal energy costs." Some said that it "employs a lot of people ."

Public support

No assembly members had comments in this area.

Safety and risk

No assembly members had comments in this area.

Other

Some assembly members liked the fact you can do it "locally" or that it offers "local solutions ." Others said it is "a solution that works at a small scale" and gave an example of where bioenergy is already being used on an estate. One assembly member said the "overall impact is positive, despite potential for pollution."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about bioenergy.

Environment impacts and land use

Some assembly members suggested that it "could be worse for the environment if not done effectively, sustainably", that "in some circumstances it's worse for climate change, so it depends on what you're growing and where, and what you're burning", or that "getting people to stick to the sustainability criteria might be a challenge if the incentives aren't there." Some worried about the "impact on biodiversity " including querying whether there was a "risk of a monoculture possibly if planting lots of these crops?" Some talked about the "USA experience of growing corn for ethanol" suggesting that the "environmental impact was high" and that they had "similar concern about palm oil and associated deforestation."

Others felt there was a "danger that it incentivises farmers to overwork the land, apply fertilisers to promote growth for bigger yields and destroy the soil." Similarly some said there was a "danger that soil doesn't get a rest." One assembly member noted that "I don't like anything that is going to destroy the environment for animals (habitat destruction). When cutting down trees – this causes a lot of disruption to animals." On a similar theme, some assembly members suggested there are "too many incentives to cheat and for bad behaviour" or that "bio fuels seem too easily exploited."

Some assembly members suggested that bioenergy "doesn't so much reduce carbon as recycle it" or "putting CO2 back into the atmosphere is not good ." Others said that it is "not carbon neutral" or "do[es] not reduce the CO2 and potentially uses up a lot of land which could otherwise be capturing and storing carbon." Some assembly members queried what happens to the carbon footprint "when [you] factor in harvesting, shipping" or suggested that it can be "carbon intensive" because "some emit a lot of carbon e.g. wood pellets exported from US to Europe to burn." Others suggested it "produces more CO2 than coal and fossil fuels (produces in burning 5% more CO2 )" or that it's a "red herring to say that it was more carbon friendly." Others noted mixed messages, saying "wood [is a] common cooking fuel, but [we're] being told [we] shouldn't use wood and coal, seems a backward step, still emitting carbon."

Expanding on a point touched on above, some assembly members suggested that bioenergy "doesn't seem like the best use of land ":

Some assembly members said that they are "concerned that we will keep using more and more bioenergy and this will have a negative impact on land use."

Also developing points already mentioned, some assembly members said that they disliked "transporting things long distances " or that the "transportation and equipment needed for bioenergy leads to pollution." Some said specifically that "importing other waste products increases [the] carbon generated by transport." Some assembly members made more general comments about importing, saying they disliked that "wood chips are being imported rather than produced locally" or questioning "will it be done in [an] environmentally friendly way."

Some assembly members expressed concerns about burning waste, with one assembly member saying that a local incinerator that had been built for pellets subsequently started to burn household waste as well. Others said they "worry about the big chimneys from the plant… particularly when burning waste…." Relatedly, some assembly members suggested that there would be "pollution from the smoke" or that it's "not good for air quality or lungs." Others described it as "not clean", or said that it "releases carbon monoxide" or that there is a "risk of harmful toxins."

Some assembly members worried about the "chemicals used to grow the crops and also side effects of growing new crops ." Some assembly members said they had personal experience of "allergies from expansion in growth of oil seed rape" and asked "might miscanthus have a similar impact?"

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members said that it's "strange to burn something you grow " or that it's a "shame to keep planting trees and chopping them down." Others asked "how many trees do you have to chop down to get enough energy" or suggested it would be "difficult to get the [right] balance of growing trees and burning [them]." Some said it was "strange to balance [it] with something that is so damaging e.g deforestation", or suggested it "could lead to deforestation" or that we would have to be "careful [we were] not contributing to deforestation – need replanting." Others said that "using forest by-products doesn't seem right" or that they disliked "crops being grown to burn." Some assembly members felt that burning trees "defeats the object" because "a young tree does take a lot of the carbon out of the atmosphere but by burning it we put it back in so we don't get away from the existing cycle." Others said "we should plant forests instead, to store carbon, and leave them where they are not burn them for electricity."

Some assembly members suggested that bioenergy "requires a lot of organic matter and water – have we got the resources ?" Others noted that it "requires space and water." Some suggested that "it's not efficient " or "doesn't contain a lot of energy compared to fossil fuels." Others questioned, "can we get all our needs from this?"

Some assembly members said they had questions about "scalability ", suggesting that the "capacity for development isn't clear." Others wondered if it was possible to do it at scale "without growing crops specifically to fuel a plant."

A number of assembly members suggested that other technologies are better. Some asked "why bother putting money into something that might not work?" when there are "already other established technology options (wind, etc…)." Others noted the need for "transportation for what is going to be burnt, which doesn't apply to wind/solar" or said that only "10% [is] used for electricity the rest for fuel – so is it worth using it for electricity? – think there are better options." Some commented simply that we "have better ways of producing the energy."

Individual assembly members commented that it's "complicated to do", that it "won't work in long term" or that you "need to wait some time before wood can be harvested." One assembly member said we "should use bioenergy for other things besides electricity, e.g. materials."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members said it is "expensive to set up bioenergy plants", "more expensive to generate energy in this way" or suggested that bioenergy is "expensive and makes a small contribution to energy supply." Some suggested that it's "a lot of money for something that could be worse for the climate." Other assembly members expressed concerns about "cost effectiveness for the farmers who will be growing the trees – will they get extra money for doing so?" One assembly member referenced the "…experience of NI government losing lots of money on subsidies."

Public support

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Safety and risk

Some assembly members said that they disliked the "need to capture the carbon " or expressed "concern that it might be storing up problems for the future."

Conditions

Assembly members also noted conditions that they would want to be in place for this technology to be used, or that they felt would help its use. They suggested a need to:

Look at what is being burnt

Assembly members made points including:

"Less keen on growing crops specifically to burn"

"Depends what is burnt, has to give carbon neutral effect"

"Must not burn natural trees/forests/woodland, but only burn waste or what is left"

"It's an advantage if reusing waste, not adding to it"

"Don't cut old growth forests for biomass, only use fuel from plantations"

"Got to plant a lot of trees, and forestry management to get to net zero. This forestry management will have bio side-products as they manage the woods. Can't let this decay and using this for small amounts of bio-generation makes sense."

"Could we also harvest kelp offshore? Why only think about this onshore?"

Make sure it's done sustainably

Some assembly members suggested that "strong regulation would be needed to ensure it's not more polluting than fossil fuels" or that it "needs strict rules to ensure that it is done sustainably." Others suggested that it "needs to be done correctly to make sure it works" or "needs to be managed." Some said you need to "balance…the 36 [sustainability] factors on the graph in the presentation [by Patricia Thornley]." Other comments included:

"There are a wide variety of forms of bioenergy and each must be considered carefully based on its overall carbon emissions at all points in the supply chain and consumption. Currently wood pellet energy production is causing mass clear cutting of old growth forests in the United States so this supposedly carbon neutral form of energy is actually causing more carbon emissions than fossil fuel. Any adoption of bioenergy needs to be carefully considered against its entire carbon picture."

"I disagree that biofuels should be used if the fuel sources are being transported from great distances – as they are now from North America."

Create a balance with other energy sources

Some assembly members suggested that bioenergy "needs to be balanced with other energy sources" or that we "need a little bit of everything."

Individual assembly members suggested a need to think about "where it's sited" or provide farmers with subsidies. One commented: "Native trees should be grown rather than non-native so that natural habitats are created which is far better for native wildlife and restoring our countryside."

Some assembly members suggested that "globally, people will need this."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed limited support for bioenergy in their votes.

B.5 Nuclear

Nuclear means using heat from nuclear reactions to make electricity. Assembly members discussed this technology in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about nuclear.

Environment impacts and land use

Some assembly members felt that nuclear is "clean " or clean in terms of emissions, commenting that it is "currently one of cleanest in emissions so good as a short term solution." Others said it is "clean (if we can dispose of [the] end products)", or that it "doesn't produce any greenhouse gases at all." Some noted that there is a "low carbon footprint from production." Some assembly members said it creates "no pollution" or "less pollution than other technologies." Some assembly members described it as "sustainable ." One assembly member suggested that there is "no effect on water/land/ecosystems if [there are] no accidents."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members commented on scale, suggesting that "it could supply up to 75% of our electricity needs", "can generate a lot of electricity", has "massive potential" or is like "turning on a tap." Others talked about the "sheer volume that this technology can produce…", saying that the "scope is vast" or "at [the] levels we need in the future." Some suggested that "it would take 300 turbines of 10MW to produce the same amount of electricity as Hinkley Point C. In fact, three times that as a turbine only operates at 30% capacity." One assembly member said "if done correctly, [it] could be a total solution."

Some assembly members liked the fact it is a "constant source" that is "available all of the time" or is "not a variable source." Others described it as "reliable " or "consistent", or said that it produces a "stable supply" of "guaranteed energy." Some branded it the "only reliable (constant) source of carbon neutral electricity" or "an effective source of power." For some assembly members it "seem[ed] efficient " or is "extremely efficient." Others said it "gets more energy faster, compared to the other technologies." One assembly member commented that it "lasts a long time."

Making a somewhat related point, a number of assembly members suggested that nuclear could provide a "baseload " of "stable" energy "which works hand in hand with wind and solar, [and which we] can crank up to address peak times." Others commented on the "ability with a small number of sites to provide a good baseload that can be topped up with variable sources." Some liked the fact you can "control output."

Some assembly members suggested that nuclear "use[s] [the] existing infrastructure available" or uses "systems already in place." Others said it "could continue to use sites with existing connectivity infrastructure in place even when decommissioned."

Some assembly members liked the fact it is "proven " or an "existing technology ." Some approved of the fact it "doesn't use fossil fuels" or is "not reliant on fossil fuels." Others saw a "role for the nuclear plants that already exist to make up for that [fossil fuel] gap (so we don't have to use more oil and gas), but [said they were] not sure about building new ones."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members said it "can create jobs in remote areas" or "creates a lot of jobs in Cumbria." Others said there would be "jobs in the building and management of it" or "lots of high skilled jobs." Some assembly members suggested that "where nuclear power stations already exist, people want them because of the jobs."

For some assembly members nuclear was "cheap to run once built", "cheap to operate" or just "cheap." Others said "once it gets going it's cheap (although not cheap to build)."

Public support

Individual assembly members said there are "no complaints from locals near Sizewell" or that they "like idea of smaller plants, depending on local people and whether they want it and the waste from the smaller plants."

Safety and risk

Some assembly members said that they were not overly worried about safety for a variety of reasons:

"Safety is paramount even on the build. Checked and checked again. We have a good record, can't see building a new one being a source of concerns."

"Growing expertise in managing nuclear waste means risks should be able to be managed."

"I used to be anti-nuclear, but I've now changed my view. As a resource, it can be used in a safe way. The waste can be managed better than carbon capture and storage."

One assembly member said "when it goes it wrong it goes badly wrong, but equally we accept other risks in our daily lives, when statistically nuclear isn't as bad." Another assembly member gave the example of "air pollution from fossil fuels which cause[s] deaths and is accepted as normal."

Some assembly members made international comparisons, suggesting that "France is a good model of how it works safely" or that "Three Mile island or Fukushima used a different type of reactor." Others suggested that "if France can be confident in running nuclear sites safely surely we can (and given parts of France are closer to the UK than other parts of the UK then their risk is our risk anyway)." Other assembly members said more broadly that it can be "made safe" and that the risk of something "disastrous" is "low." One assembly member said "I appreciate the environmental dangers but on the other hand we need it."

Other

Some assembly members expressed varying views on imports, either seeing it as a plus that we "could import from other countries", or alternatively liking the fact of "not having to." One assembly member said it "uses brainpower and knowledge, employs intellectual thought."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about nuclear.

Environment impacts and land use

Some assembly members suggested nuclear is "not clean" or has a poor overall carbon footprint. Some said that there are "no greenhouse gases but it does produce nuclear waste which could be worse than a greenhouse gas. It's low carbon but not clean." Others said that "mining uranium uses a lot of energy" or that "there are huge amounts of embodied carbon in the concrete used to build a nuclear power station and to decommission it." Some assembly members said that nuclear is "not actually renewable."

Some assembly members worried about "half-life – what impact on wildlife ." Others said more generally that they were concerned about "environment impact" or whether it will be "harmful to [the] environment in the long term."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members said that the "timescales are too long compared to wind and solar", suggesting that it "takes 20 years to build…[and] wind can be cranked up much more easily." Others said it "takes a long time to develop" or that the "timescales for building are unknown and unpredictable".

Some assembly members raised practical issues around nuclear waste, suggesting we will "need new sites for storing waste" or asking whether it is "moral to store [waste] outside of this country." Some declared "doubts about …[the] efficiency of waste management."

Some assembly members suggested that nuclear is "outdated " or said they are "huge plants…the technology is backward thinking." One assembly member disliked that it "uses lots of space." Some asked "why use nuclear when we can generate power from wind?" For some assembly members, the "need to keep it going all the time" was a disadvantage, with others suggesting it "takes 3 days to start and 3 days to stop so isn't flexible ."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

A sizeable number of assembly members described nuclear as "expensive ", or "incredibly expensive", with some suggesting that the "costs are astronomical". Some specifically mentioned the "huge expense to build new plants", commenting it is "twice the costs of other plants" or "twice that for a wind farm." Others highlighted "expensive decommissioning", the "costs of management", the "very expensive steam train – very harmful by-product", or said that "safety makes it cost a lot." Others noted the "costs of waste management" suggesting that "waste needs managing over 100s of years" and that it's "not worth it when we have wind to use." Others labelled nuclear "the most expensive technology available", said that "the costs go up once you start to build" or that costs are "unknown and unpredictable."

Some assembly members said "wave isn't being pursued because of the cost, so why are we focusing on nuclear? I.e. there are so many other options." Some suggested that "the huge amounts of money needed for nuclear could be spent on renewables…."

One assembly member said nuclear "doesn't employ as many people at plants." Another said "unlike other options this is unlikely to bring down individual bills."

Public support

Location and public acceptability – some assembly members predicted "location issues" with some saying "they've got a bad reputation similar to Onshore Wind for example – build-it, but not near me!" Others talked about "not wanting to live next door to something like this, whether it's a plant and/or a waste site…" or said that "no-one wants one [a nuclear power station] nearby." Others said that the "risk of accidents means public acceptability might be low." Some assembly members said that "the smaller models described are still quite large industrial units and identifying appropriate sites might be difficult." Some assembly members said that the "small scale option is a nice idea but with NIMBYISM…."

Weapons connection – some assembly members talked about the "possible use for weapons – big danger" or said it is "seen to exist originally for nuclear bomb[s]."

Safety and risk

A sizeable number of some assembly members said there have been "too many disaster stories, and they are massive disasters." Others said nuclear is "really dangerous " or that it would be "incredibly scary, if something happened." Some noted that the "impact of a nuclear disaster (e.g. Chernobyl, Fukushima) can be terrible." Others used words including "cataclysmic" or "catastrophic." Some assembly members talked about the "risks" being "too large" of "unpredictability/ leak/ accident." Some assembly members said they "don't think they can make it safe", suggesting there's been "a disaster every 10 years." Others felt "climate change and rising water levels" bring new concerns, or said that "building them on the coast is ridiculous – especially in times of rising sea levels." Others said that nuclear was "not worth the costs and risks comparatively." One assembly member said that a "beach is radioactive in my area. The dangers are not appreciated. House prices have fallen." Another commented that "all the materials at the plant are irradiated."

Another sizeable number of assembly members raised a range of concerns about "nuclear decommissioning / waste storage":

For some assembly members there was "obviously no solution to the waste issue or it would have been found already." For others "UK designs for new builds are faulty." One assembly member said they had concerns about the "transport of nuclear fuels."

Some assembly members commented that "the generation process is more scientific and complicated compared to others, so can't completely understand how it works. Makes it harder for us to be confident that its use it OK."

Conditions

Assembly members also noted conditions that they would want to be in place for this technology to be used, or that they felt would help its use. They suggested a need to:

Phase out nuclear

Phase out nuclear "as their life span ends" in favour of renewables

Build a minimum amount

"Build a minimum amount to provide a baseline but focus on variable options in the main." Others said that nuclear "should only be a backup when needed."

Sort out the waste

Some assembly members said we "need to work a lot harder on nuclear waste management to ensure safe and secure storage to manage the public perception for what is an efficient technology."

Import it (possibly)

Some assembly members said that you could "build in other countries, where there's more support/acceptance with [the] public (e.g. France) and import energy BUT [there are then] worries then about security and international relations."

Reuse sites

Some assembly members suggested that "if we can repurpose the sites and reuse them that would be good."

Be self-reliant

Some assembly members said that we will "need to import energy if we cannot make out own, so nuclear may be needed."

Some assembly members added an additional thought:

"How much of a consideration, really, is the cost? We are told that we can't afford things as a country, but coronavirus has shown that we can spend money when we need to. The point is that the politics of these decisions is important and relevant."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed limited support for nuclear in their votes.

B.6 Fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage

Fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage means capturing and storing around 90% of the carbon dioxide released by burning fossil fuels like gas and coal. Assembly members discussed this technology in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage.

Environment impacts and land use

Some assembly members liked that you "can capture 90% of CO2 " or said it "seems to tackle head on the challenge of reducing the carbon in the atmosphere through storage." One assembly member commented that "we learned that the chemicals (amines) used to capture the carbon can be recycled and reused."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

For some assembly members, the potential to use existing markets, technology and infrastructure was a plus. Some noted that it "use[s] fossil fuels therefore [we] can use existing markets" or that "we know the technology [for fossil fuels]." Others said they liked that we can "use existing power stations," that the "facilities [are] already there" or that we "already have the power stations, all we need is to capture the carbon that's coming out of them." Some said we have "evidence that fossil fuels work." Relatedly, some assembly members suggested and that we are "not limited in supply [of fossil fuels]", that we "still have fossil fuels to use " or that this "uses fossil fuels while we still have them." Others were much more muted in their praise, suggesting that there are "no positives – except familiarity."

Some assembly members felt this option could be used short-term or as part of a transition. Some said if we are "still burning fossil fuels [it's] important to consider how can do that while still working out how to improve renewables." Others said there's a "possibility that it could be the least disruptive, as [we] could continue to use fossil fuels, at least in the transition phase." Some suggested that it could "be used…[in the] short-term where there's no other solution", or that this is the "same technology as we use currently so [it] can be adopted as an intermediate solution to give us time to work on other alternatives."

Some assembly members said that fossil fuels are "easily found " or that "we're doing it already and can access it easily (i.e. it's onshore I think)." Some assembly members said it "can be done" or "can be done quickly." Some commented that we "need to balance the grid – if [we] have sporadic wind/solar energy, [we] need something reliable like CCS to balance it with." Others described is as "more reliable (no seasonal/weather effects)."

Some assembly members focussed on the technology for carbon capture and storage, suggesting it is proven and viable:

"CCS has already taken place at industrial scale in America. It is a proven technology. It is not just being trialled."

"Norway has been doing that for 10–15 years. Not as scary as we think it is. Seems like a possible alternative."

"CCS is a valid technology for when making cement or things that we really need to use large amounts of electricity for and for which there is no alternative."

Others commented that "CCS [is] underway and oil wells [for storage are] a viable option…." Also in relation to on carbon capture and storage, some assembly members said that it's a "good idea to put carbon underground", that it's "easy to put away under the sea" or "quite safe once stored (we believe)."

Individual assembly members suggested that it could "generate lot of electricity from single location", or that the CO2 "doesn't take up much space (as it's converted to liquid)." Another said that they liked that it's a "switch on / switch off electricity source." One assembly member commented that I "wondered in the past – when not knowing so much about climate change – why it wasn't possible to get a giant space hoover to suck all the carbon out of the atmosphere, this technology sounds a little bit like that!"

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members suggested it "could create jobs if it led to re-opening some coal mines" or that it would be "good for UK regions with coal mines." Some felt it would be "cost effective " or "cheaper ." One assembly member said "if we are well placed for geological storage sites we may be able to sell off storage space to supplement investment in other technologies in the short term."

Public support

Some assembly members suggested we could "carry on [our] lives as normal, able to burn coal/wood" or that there would be "little change to our way of life ." Some assembly members suggested that there "is a reason people are looking at it as it allows us to keep our way of life."

Safety and risk

Some assembly said they are "more favourable towards this than nuclear " or liked it more than nuclear "with regard to potential waste leaks as [it's] not going to kill people immediately."

Other

One assembly members said that they "trust that technology will come up with answers."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage.

Environment impacts and land use

A sizeable number of assembly members said that they disliked the continued use of fossil fuels, suggesting that "carrying on as normal, doesn't do much to help climate change", or that it "just sidesteps the issue." Others said it is "not real change – doesn't address the…need to change energy production long-term," or commented that "we're already too reliant on them [fossil fuels]" – "it is not a future proofing solution." Some assembly members said that this "feels like the lazy option. Fossil fuels will run out eventually, so hesitant to carry on as normal if we can invest in other technologies." Others agreed:

"Fossil fuels – their time is up. Let's move on to clean energy, don't go back to fossil fuels."

"Investing in this is money that is not invested in renewables – just invest in that instead. This is delaying doing what we will have to anyway."

Other assembly members said they do not want to "suppor[t] a dirty industry" or suggested that fossil fuels have "lots of negatives that aren't attributed to the carbon" including that the "harvesting of fuels causes disease" or the "impact on [the] environment when [they are] extracted." Some commented "burn but capture seems illogical when there is no need to burn, why not just leave fuels where they are." One assembly member suggested that "there is a big lobby pushing for this which points to business as usual." Another said that "current CCS is used to increase production of fossil fuels (to extract more oil / gas from reserves)."

Some assembly members disliked that you "only get some of it out when capturing carbon" or noted that "still 10% of carbon dioxide from fossil fuels [is] going out into the atmosphere. " Others said they "don't like [the] idea of creating waste and just putting it aside. Renewables don't have that problem."

For some assembly members fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage was a "time-bomb for later." Others said it "reeks of short-termism ", "doesn't protect future generations", "moves the problem to the next generation", gives the "future generation headaches" or is a "short term answer, not [a] long term [one]." Some assembly members commented that "if the intention [is] to make use of one main technology, [the] cost of carbon capture feels like an expensive way to go, and seems like it's taking a burying 'head in the sand' approach' – oh we've got this space, let's just put it there!" Some branded it "a selfish approach" or said "out of sight out of mind." Others said it seems "like a sticking plaster / temporary solution" or a "magic unicorn people are chasing when simpler solutions are in front of us." One assembly member suggested it was "not sustainable."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members suggested it "seems unrealistic", is "not viable", "not reliable" or is "nowhere near being ready." Others said that the "capturing process is new" or that "carbon capture isn't ready as a technology at the moment compared to others which are better options." Some said that the "technology is at an early state, not yet ready" or asked "why invest in the unknown if other options are available."

Some assembly members suggested that this way of generating electricity is "not that efficient " or that there are "limits to where this could efficiently be undertaken due to storage sites." Some assembly members disliked the "energy required to do the CCS" or the "energy cost." Some noted that "a lot of energy is required to run the CC process (10% of the electricity being generated at a power plant)."

Some assembly members suggested that "storage capacity is limited – it's 100 years so it's only a short term solution." Individual assembly members commented that it "takes more land to build pipes", or branded it "old fashioned." One said:

"In the future I think the only use of fossil fuels should be for when there is no current alternative such as air travel. And since carbon capture has limited space – though there is a lot – it should also be reserved for other circumstances, such as industrial processes that produce a lot of CO2 but that can't be done another way."

Cost, the economy, and jobs

Some assembly members suggested that that it is an "expensive process", "ridiculously expensive" or that it "doubles the costs of new power stations." Others said that the "initial cost is high", "seems prohibitive" or "will require a lot of investment." Some suggested that for it "to be viable to pipe the stored carbon to offshore repositories … expensive new infrastructure would have to be built along the coasts." Others noted that "tech for CCS is expensive…[but] might get cheaper."

Some assembly members commented that "wind [is] cheaper than fossil fuels, then add cost of CCS and [it's even] worse."

Public support

Some assembly members recalled that "a Speaker during one of the early weekends said that we don't want to push CCS. Might make people feel we don't need to change as we have that to fall back on. There are lots of other options that don't carry risks." Others agreed saying "a lot of people don't want to have to change their lifestyles: if presented with CCS, you can carry on doing what you are doing, people are more likely to do that."

Safety and risk

A sizeable number of assembly members said they were worried about risks with carbon capture and storage. For some this was about the "risks of leakages during storage " including "major leak[s]." Some asked "how can you be 100% it's never going to leak or something's not going to disturb it?" or "what happens if there's an earthquake with lots of carbon stored under the sea." Others worried about risks during transfer, noting "the CO2 is transferred to its destination under high pressure – this creates a huge risk if [a] pipe fails". One assembly member commented "I'd rather have a turbine fall over in the sea."

Others queried how carbon dioxide "can be stored without damaging water supplies " or suggested there's a risk of it "turning to acid if mixed with water." Some asked about the impact on "marine life", or the "soil and the sea if the carbon leaks out."

Some assembly members expressed concerns about the involvement of big business : "What happens if the carbon leaks out – do we pay them to capture it again?"

For some assembly members, their conclusion was that "they [those responsible] have no idea what the implications are", won't "know [the] impact until something happens" or that there are "too many unknowns about safe storage and the impacts of leakage." Making a slightly different point, some assembly members said that CCS "is a gamble and we don't know if it will work."

Other

Some assembly members said that fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage "should be [a] last resort and phased out by 2050."

Conditions

Assembly members also noted conditions that they would want to be in place for this technology to be used, or that they felt would help its use. They suggested a need to:

See it as a transition only

Some assembly members said they'd support this technology "if we see it as a transition, not as a long term solution. It will take time to switch to 100% renewables." Other assembly members suggested that "we're not going to be able to build the wind/nuclear technology capacity we need within the next 30 years. So, we need to convert these plants to get to net zero – using carbon capture feels like a necessary interim solution."

Bring the costs down

Some assembly members said that "if [we] could get cost down [we] would be more favourable."

Regulate and monitor

Some assembly members said that "CCS needs [a] high level of regulation and monitoring to ensure it is being done safely and that it remains safe when buried."

Develop the technology

Some assembly members said that the "technology needs further development before it can be widely used."

Find more storage space

Some assembly members said that we "need more space to bury the CO2 than the original fuel that was extracted (we think)."

Look for alternatives to storage

Some assembly members suggested that "if it is stored in volcanic rock it becomes a solid, if put into [the] north sea it remains a liquid – why not capture it and turn it into plastics or gravel rather than putting it underground where it might leak." Others said we "should absorb the carbon in more natural ways."

Bear hydrogen in mind

Some assembly members said that "if we use hydrogen from gas in the future, then CCS is essential" or that we should "use the CO2 generated to produce hydrogen, as opposed to capturing and storing it."

Availability of fossil fuels

Some assembly members said that their support for this technology would "depend on how much fossil fuels the UK has left."

Use it where needed

Some assembly members suggested that you "could use this option for [synthetic fuels for] bigger machinery, eg HGVs, aeroplanes and agri-machinery."

Tax it

"I would like to see an end to use of all fossil fuels, but if the technology is not yet there, then high carbon taxes to deter and reduce their use would also help pay for more research."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed little support for fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage in their votes.

C. Other technologies

Assembly members had only heard a very small amount about other technologies – hydro, wave, tidal and geothermal – in one of the presentations. The ballot paper nonetheless gave assembly members the opportunity to leave comments on these options, if they wished to do so. Seventy-two assembly members wrote down their thoughts.

C.1 General comments

Some assembly members made general comments about all four technologies, or several of them at once. Most comments were positive, with very few assembly members mentioning points that they disliked. Some assembly members noted conditions that they would want to be in place for these technologies to be used, or that they felt would help their use.

Pros

Consider in the right areas

Several assembly members suggested using these technologies in targeted local areas. Remarks included:

"I think all these options should also be considered in … areas of the UK where they have the natural resources to be able to use these technologies."

"In the locations where the special conditions exist (e.g. appropriate topography) these alternative technologies need to be applied – we shouldn't focus only on the few mainstream low carbon technologies."

"I think there is an opportunity for local areas to explore these smaller forms of electricity generation where these are viable options but that the majority of the nation's resources should focus on the technologies described …[earlier]."

Stability and a mix of renewables

Some assembly members emphasised the need to use a mix of renewable technologies:

"I think we need to maximise all possible sources of renewable energy to ensure all year round electricity."

"Despite the cost, hydro and tidal power should be expanded wherever possible as they can provide a more stable source of energy production. A large mix of clean renewable energy sources can meet most of our demand and must be heavily invested in."

"Resources should be natural, have longevity, and be reasonably predictable. We should not ask if we can afford to do it but if we can afford not to do it. Tidal, Geothermal and Hydro are front runners."

Support for tidal, wave and hydro

Several assembly members expressed support for tidal, wave and sometimes hydro in particular:

"I prefer tidal, wave and hydro as they are renewable as well"

"Tidal and Wave should be considered more."

"Money used for Nuclear should be transferred to Wave and Tidal development. I think it's crazy we are spending so much money on a hazardous energy when we can essentially power the UK on clean safe renewables."

"I think tidal and wave power are worth more consideration – they are natural resources like the wind and sun, but whilst the last two are variable according to the weather, tides and wave power are a constant and powerful source of energy."

"…consideration should be given to tidal and wave technology. These could be operated in conjunction with offshore wind installations."

"Tidal, wave & hydro needs to be developed since as an island we need to take advantage of that...initially it will be expensive but hopefully will become more competitive compared to other forms of production."

"As we are an island I thought more would have been made of both tidal and wave power generation. I understand they may be more expensive but so was wind power in the beginning."

"Given we are an island, with access to our coastline no greater than 70–80 miles from anywhere in the UK, shouldn't we be looking at wave/tidal energy especially for communities that rely on oil for heating and/or are not attached to the national grid."

Individual assembly members made the following points:

"I like all these options a lot, they all provide very clean energy. I think that all forms of clean energy should be used in the areas they are applicable."

"These should also be considered as they are also minimally detrimental to the environment"

"All these types are currently quite expensive but I believe, as with everything, the more people adopt them and the more research is done, the cheaper they will become. I like the idea of all of these technologies especially Hydro and Tidal/Wave and would like to see them implemented in some capacity in the future."

Cons

Unproven

Some assembly members said that these technologies are "interesting but relatively unproven" or "all largely untested and would require significant investment." Some suggested that the "technology for some of these may not be so mature."

Too slow

Linked to the above, one assembly member said that "time is a major factor", suggesting that "we need to prioritise technologies that are already established and proven, and not on tidal, wave, etc."

Conditions

Protect the environment

"I think there is a small place for all of these but with stringent controls. The natural environment, wildlife and biodiversity should always be considered and given priority. A decommissioned nuclear plant on the coast, which has already had its environment devastated, could be a consideration for tidal or wave power and once in place the environment vastly improved and enhanced." Another assembly members said that "the environmental impacts of these schemes must be properly assessed."

Continue research and development

Some assembly said that we should "continue to investigate these other options as the reduction of climate change is as important as apparently high financial cost. " Others said "if they can be shown to work in reducing global warming, they should be tried" or they "…nee[d] to be researched more and will play [a] part in the future." Some assembly members said "tidal and wave are being tried, but need more research to scale up" or "tidal and wave technologies seem like good options for an Island nation like the UK, but I think there needs to be more investment and incentives to continue R&D in these areas."

Develop storage options

"Other technologies such as wave and tidal would be good options for the UK especially, but only if we would be able to store the power and transport it/use it at a later time."

Work together internationally

Some assembly said we need to "work internationally and exchange research programmes especially with countries with similar geographic and geological terrains" or suggested that "with emerging existing technologies an international effort would yield greater results." Some assembly members commented that it is "important to look at international collaboration regarding all these different technologies and their use in the best geographical locations", particularly if "we can invest further in, and make use of, more efficient emerging technologies available to transfer electricity in a suitable way…."

Promote local energy

Some assembly members suggested that " the government should look at options to create more energy locally than nationally" or that "devolution is required for local government to take advantage of localised energy generation." Some gave the example of Southampton, which "can use geothermal as it suits their geography."

Individual assembly members suggested that "study of the estimated efficiency should be the key factor to what technology needs to be chosen in every case", that technologies should be considered "only if they contribute to reducing [the] domestic cost of energy to the consumer" or that "we have to look at the resources available here in the UK, costs and long term sustainability." Another assembly member said it "would [be] great if technology could harness both wind and hydro power in the same unit."

Some assembly members suggested that another technology, hydrogen, was the "way forward."

C.2 Hydro

The assembly members who commented on hydro specifically mostly made positive comments:

One assembly member voiced a concern about hydro, suggesting that it "may need the building of dams resulting in loss of land ."

C.3 Wave

Assembly members who commented on wave technology specifically all made positive comments:

C.4 Tidal

Assembly members who commented on tidal technology specifically mostly made positive comments:

Some assembly members said there were points they disliked about tidal or were unsure about:

"Not sure tidal is a great idea as it can affect nearby wildlife and [has] very expensive start up costs."

"Tidal may be expensive to set up and not provide enough energy."

"Tidal would generate immense energy, but it's intermittent, and is not convenient"

One assembly member "this [can] be taken to other areas beyond the Severn? Would want to make a judgement and would need to know about cost and [the] impact on [the] marine environment, but interested."

C.5 Geothermal

Only a small number of assembly members commented specifically on geothermal. Most comments were positive:

One assembly member expressed doubts, suggesting that "geothermal could possibly release more CO2 into the atmosphere."

D. Cross-cutting considerations

Assembly members' ballot papers gave them the opportunity to add 'anything else' they wanted to say about where our electricity comes from. Some assembly members used this space to make additional comments about individual technologies, in which case their thoughts have been incorporated into the tables above. Others however made cross-cutting points.

Some assembly members noted the need to pursue a combination of technologies. Some made general comments, saying "I think we should use a mixture of them", "I feel that all options presented/discussed should be considered as a combination to get the best from each option", or "I don't think that one option is a 'cure all' however I feel that a combination of the options would allow us to bring net zero much closer to becoming a reality." Others' made more specific suggestions or included key factors they would want borne in mind:

"I think we should provide most of it by offshore (e.g. 55%), then 30% by both solar and onshore (15% each), then provide a base load through nuclear (10%) and finally the remaining 5% could come from bioenergy, wave and maybe tidal. Also I believe there should be ways to transport electricity from one part of the country to the other so that if it's extremely windy in one part of the country and not the other then the electricity supply will remain balanced."

"All options should exist symbiotically and constant sources like nuclear and bioenergy are necessary to supplement variable sources like wind. Ultimately using variables will change to way we consume electricity (as a service – using it when it's windy is cheaper) making us more flexible as a society."

"I don't think any one option is the solution, they all have their strengths and weaknesses, therefore we should use a few different solutions together. I do believe that we should move away from fossil fuels entirely, we will run out eventually anyway if we keep consuming them at the rate we are…."

"The UK should aim for a combination of low risk low impact technologies."

"It cannot be a singular solve-all solution, different communities will be able to harness and use different types of electricity."

"It needs to be a mixture. Not reliant on one source – different for homes than industry."

"Not enough thought has gone into integrated energy production. So for example, I believe the UK should concentrate on offshore energy production with energy plants simultaneously taking advantage of wind, solar and wave energy and using this unlimited energy to produce synthetic fuels at source from air mining. The energy plants could be static (akin to oil platforms in the North Sea)… or floating vessels much like ocean going fuel tankers, albeit that floating vessels would be less efficient at capturing wave energy."

Some assembly members stressed the need to keep our options open and/or conduct further analysis, including looking a new technologies. Comments included:

"I think the UK should keep its options open. When it chooses an option it should do a cost benefit analysis (if it can) on each technology. I don't know if this is possible but could two small projects be compared when a new option is considered?"

"Lets keep our options open and look at new energies. If we have come this far there must be more we can do. Capturing cow methane? More use of waste from household for energy? Hydrogen?"

"Continue to research and utilise advancing technologies.

"The pros and cons should be constantly under review. We must have a holistic view of what is good for the planet as well as humanity."

Others said there should be a focus on storage solutions for variable energy :

"I think the main thing is to find a way to store the power created from wind turbines, solar panels, etc. so it doesn't go to waste and we can use it efficiently."

"Due to the variable amounts of energy produced by wind & solar, energy storage will be key. While the production of batteries has an environmental impact there are other energy storage options that we need to invest in as well. This includes pumping water and lifting weights to store energy when we have an excess [and] … to generate energy when we have drop in supply. This will be key to invest in while also rapidly scaling up our onshore and offshore wind capacity."

"I would like to see electricity storage technology developed. So that the excess generation of electricity can be stored."

Some assembly members felt is "important to differentiate the renewable energy with no waste product to the low carbon alternatives that may create a potential problem for the future generations. " Similar comments included: "if we can achieve net zero and produce the energy we need without having to resort to technologies that have a waste product at the end of it why risk it no matter how small the risk…." or "the generating of electricity which leaves waste, nuclear or stored carbon, for future generations is irresponsible. "

Some assembly members highlighted the principles or criteria that they felt should underpin how the UK generates its electricity. Some assembly members said it is "important to consider costs and effects to the environment", or that "achieving net zero is pretty pointless if you're going to wreck the environment with nuclear or fracking", while others cautioned "think carefully about risks to people. Not all about costs." Some suggested "we should be investing in tech we already have in order to meet our targets on time", or that we should "utilise the science we have and know works on a national scale rather than methods still being tested or [that have]… no real life evidence (e.g. CCS on a national scale)." Others said we should "prioritise resources we have, not resources which have to be imported." Other suggestions included:

"The way forward should be based on the principles broadly agreed to in week one. This situation is a unique opportunity to reconfigure not only our energy systems but also our human inter-reaction with our environment and fellow human kind. An unseemly rush to get back to business as usual will be catastrophic for generations to come."

"I am concerned about our energy security considering a lot of our generating capacity is owned by foreign (often state controlled) companies. I think all the nuclear power capacity is owned by EDF for example, and wind power contracts in Scotland all seem to benefit Denmark's Ørsted, Sweden's Vattenfall, China's Red Rock and France's EDF, as well as some German state-owned installations. The transition to renewables needs to have UK societal and economic benefits as well as environmental."

"I would like to see the energy produced in the UK and creating jobs for employees most affected by energy production change."

"The price of electricity does not matter so long as it is a similar price as our competitors so it does not put our manufacturing at a disadvantage and it is a level playing field against other European countries."

"Cost, benefits, pros/cons of all options need to be highlighted and documented leading to end user fair and affordable outlays."

Some assembly members said "we should look at usage and ways to reduce it":

"There are two fundamental ways to reduce our emissions. The first is by switching to renewable energy sources, however this has costs and takes time. The second is by reducing our energy demand. And we will need to do both to meet our targets. Reducing our energy demand is the quickest, easiest, and cheapest way to reduce our carbon emissions. Reducing our energy demand while quickly transitioning to already existing widely-scalable clean renewable energy (such as wind) will allow us to get to net zero quickly and cost-effectively."

Relatedly, others noted that "the choice of which generating technology to choose and at what level is to some extent dependant on how electricity is used. For example if we had many more electric vehicles, there would be greater potential for off peak usage and more available battery storage and this would get over some of the disadvantages of solar and wind generation."

Individual assembly members said that "commercial interests should be managed within national interests e.g. potentially renationalise", or asked "are Hydrogen power plants an option?"

Conclusions

Assembly members expressed clear preferences for how the UK should generate its electricity.

Large majorities of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that three ways of generating electricity should be part of how the UK gets to net zero:

Onshore wind scored slightly more highly than solar power in the Borda count, suggesting that assembly members slightly preferred it to solar power overall.

Assembly members identified multiple points that they liked about each of these technologies. Overall, they tended to see wind-based options as suitable for the UK, low cost, proven, clean, and good for the economy and jobs, among other advantages. They saw offshore wind as having key additional benefits, particularly being "out of the way", but also in terms of the space available for turbines and its minimal impact on wildlife. For solar power, assembly members listed a wide range of positives including flexibility of location, the potential for individual autonomy and profit, and the recognised, proven and clean nature of the technology. For all three ways of generating electricity, assembly members suggested a range of points to bear in mind around implementation.

Assembly members also discussed and listed their dislikes about offshore wind, onshore wind and solar. However they overwhelmingly felt that the advantages outweighed these points.

Assembly members were much less supportive of bioenergy, nuclear and fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage – although, particularly for bioenergy, significant numbers of assembly members were unsure about its use:

Assembly members' comments on bioenergy suggest that, for many, their view would depend on how it is produced, including what is being burnt, how production is regulated, and therefore what the environmental and CO2 impacts are. Some assembly members said they also found the evidence on bioenergy hard to follow. Assembly members' dislikes about bioenergy included concerns around burning trees and crops, land use and environmental effects, and a feeling that better alternatives exist.

Assembly members had three main concerns around nuclear : its cost, safety, and issues around waste storage and decommissioning. Their dislikes of fossil fuels with carbon capture and storage centred on safety risks and the continued use of fossil fuels, with assembly members also suggesting that it only provides a "short-term", expensive solution, when better alternatives are available.

Assembly members did not hear detailed evidence about tidal, wave, hydro and geothermal technologies, but in principle many clearly felt positive about their use particularly in suitable local areas. Assembly members tended to be most positive about tidal and wave technologies, followed by hydro. They saw these as natural and logical given that the UK is an island, also suggesting that they could be combined with offshore wind. As with the other technologies, assembly members noted a range of conditions for decision-makers to bear in mind around their implementation.

Greenhouse gas removals

Summary of recommendations

Assembly members suggested that a combination of greenhouse gas removal methods will be needed to achieve the UK's net zero target. Clear majorities of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that four greenhouse gas removal methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero:

Assembly members saw these methods as the most "natural " and as having significant co-benefits, including around preventing flooding and erosion, and promoting biodiversity, access to nature and enjoyment. Assembly members also set out a number of conditions around their implementation, including that it was planned and managed well (for example, planting the right trees in the right places), support for farmers, sustainability, and ensuring a balance of land use.Assembly members were less supportive of Bioenergy with Carbon Capture and Storage (BECCS) and Direct Air Carbon Capture and Storage (DACCS). Only 42% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that each of these methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero, while 36% (BECCS) and 39% (DACCS) 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed'.

Common concerns about BECCS and DACCS included the potential for leaks from carbon storage sites and a feeling that they failed to address the problem, including a risk that they are "treated as [a] magic solution" that "takes the focus off the amount that we are emitting in the first place." Assembly members also saw these methods, particularly DACCS, as being less natural, costly and unproven in terms of the technology they require.

Whilst BECCS and DACCS received limited support, some assembly members were keen that further research and development took place, noting for example that these technologies could perhaps then be used more in the future or that they might be needed to "mop up" remaining CO2.

Greenhouse gas removals

Achieving the UK's net zero climate change target by 2050 necessitates reducing greenhouse gas emissions as much as possible. However reducing emissions alone will not be enough.

By the middle of this century some emissions will still remain. For the themes considered by Climate Assembly UK, this is particularly true of air travel and farming. The assembly's recommendations in these areas suggest remaining C02 emissions by 2050 of between 45–55 million tonnes per year. That compares to emissions of 366 million tonnes in 2018.116

At the penultimate assembly weekend, assembly members considered how best to remove these remaining emissions from the atmosphere.

What did the assembly consider?

All assembly members heard evidence, deliberated and voted on the question of how best to remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere. They heard about six potential removal methods:117

  1. Forests and better forest management
  2. Restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands
  3. Enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil
  4. Using wood in construction
  5. Bioenergy with Carbon Capture and Storage (BECCS)
  6. Direct Air Carbon Capture and Storage

The evidence session covered what these methods are and different views on their desirability. Assembly members had the opportunity to question each speaker118 in detail.

After the evidence session, assembly members discussed the six methods. They then voted on them by secret ballot.

What's included in this chapter?

Assembly members had less time overall to discuss 'removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere' than they had for the themes covered in previous chapters, with the exception of 'where our electricity comes from'. They therefore focussed on just one question: which of six greenhouse gas removal methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero.

This chapter presents their views in the following order:

  1. Vote results: the assembly's final recommendations on which of the six greenhouse gas removal methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero;
  2. Rationale and conditions: assembly members' rationale for their votes, as well as areas they would like to see considered around the implementation of each of the six methods;
  3. Cross-cutting considerations: points emphasised by assembly members when looking back across all six options at the end of their discussions.

The chapter ends by summarising the conclusions from across these sections.

A. Vote results

Assembly members voted on ways of removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere by secret ballot. There were two different ballot papers. The first ballot paper asked assembly members how much they agreed or disagreed that each method should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. The second ballot paper asked them to rank the methods in their order of preference.

The votes from this second ballot paper were counted in two ways:

More than 50% of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that four of the methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero. These were forests and better forest management (99%), restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands (85%), using wood in construction (82%) and enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil (62%).

Of these four methods, assembly members were:

In comparison to the first four methods, BECCS and DACCS saw much lower levels of agreement – 42% each. They also saw higher levels of disagreement, with 36% (BECCS) and 39% (DACCS) of assembly members 'disagreeing' or 'strongly disagreeing' that they should be part of the path to net zero.

Figure 1: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following greenhouse gas removal methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (% votes)

Figure 1: How much do you agree or disagree that each of the following greenhouse gas removal methods should be part of how the UK gets to net zero? (% votes)

Please rank the following greenhouse gas removal methods in your order of preference (% first preference votes)

Forests and better forest management 83%

Restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands 3%

Enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil 0%

Using wood in construction 6%

Bioenergy with Carbon Capture and Storage 4%

Direct Air Carbon Capture and Storage 4%

Figure 2: Please rank the following greenhouse gas removal methods in your order of preference (% first preference votes)

Please rank the following greenhouse gas removal methods in your order of preference (% first preference votes)

Forests and better forest management 476

Restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands 319

Enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil 204

Using wood in construction 255

Bioenergy with Carbon Capture and Storage 137

Direct Air Carbon Capture and Storage 106

Figure 3: Please rank the following greenhouse gas removal methods in your order of preference (% first preference votes)

Assembly members' ranking of the methods painted a similar picture. Forests and better forest management remained assembly members' preferred option, receiving 83% of first preference votes. It was again followed by restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands, using wood in construction, and enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil, in that order.

As with the first vote, BECCS and DACCS scored less well, with the former scoring slightly higher than the latter.

Some assembly members commented that they would have liked more information about all six methods, expressing "a desire to be able to quantify things either by land area or investment cost needed to achieve the removal of one tonne of CO2 ."119 Some also commented in relation to DACCS that they didn't "see how we can make a decision on it, when so little is known."

B. Rationale and conditions

This section contains:

Given the detailed nature of assembly members' comments, we have categorised the pros and cons for each of way removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere under six headings:

The category titles are our words, not assembly members', and are just there to make assembly members' thoughts easier to navigate. All the content under the headings is however assembly members' own.

We have kept in contradictory opinions in order to show the full range of views amongst assembly members. The results of the votes above tell you what conclusions assembly members reached having considered all these points, and the weight of feeling in support (or not) of each way of removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere.

B.1 Forests and better forest management

Forests and better forest management refers to planting and managing forests. These absorb carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas. Assembly members discussed this option in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about forests and better forest management.

Environment impact and land use

A large number of assembly members described forests and better forest management as "natural ", "very natural", "more natural", "nature first", "working with a natural way" or the "most natural way of solving the problem." Some said "we would like to start with natural processes", that "[we are] all for nature based approaches" or that it's the "best solution as [it is] given by nature." Others commented that the "problem is a man-made one, [it] should have natural solutions" or that we "will need some man made interventions but more natural is better." Some felt that "all of the nature ones [greenhouse gas removal methods] made sense to do all together" or that it's "naturally there, there's already forests growing so to continue this makes sense." Some assembly members commented that we are "seeing with covid-19 that nature is coming back when humans step back … skies are clearer and birds are singing and maybe it's a wakeup call." Others said a "more holistic approach [is] needed to help the planet heal – forests are part of the ecosystem and we are integrated with that too."

Another large number of assembly members suggested that this greenhouse gas removal method would have "multiple benefits " "other benefits", or that there's a "double benefit of bringing in more forests". Almost all these assembly members said their comments related to one or more of the points covered in the rest of this subsection.

Some assembly members suggested forests and better forest management are "good for wildlife", "encourage wildlife", would bring "increased biodiversity ", or that "when well located [forests] can have additional biodiversity benefits." Similar points included that they provide "natural habitat for a lot of animals", "enhance habitats for biodiversity" or that a forest "takes 10 years to grow, 100 years to [reach] maturity so [you] get 90 years of them taking in carbon and in that 90 years it's offering habitat for animals." Other assembly members commented that "humans have damaged the environment significantly, we need to restore natural habits whilst helping the environment." Some felt it would be "good for native trees" or "improves nature."

Some assembly members made more general points, saying forests and better forest management have "good overall environmental impacts " or that they would be good for the "ecosystem." Others said we "can integrate animals in [the] forest (for agriculture) and provide a mixed and balanced ecosystem" or that they wanted to "restore natural forests."

For some assembly members it was important that forests "help reduce flooding", provide "flood protection ", or are a "flood defence." Others noted they "potentially [have]…knock on effects re flood management." Some said they "provide shading" or "provide shelter in hot climates ."

Some assembly members talked about a "mental health /wellbeing value – people can clear their heads when they walk through a forest." Some commented that it's "nicer to live in an area with trees", that they would be "happy to have forests next to me" or that they "like it on face value, I like the countryside, nature and going for walks." Others talked about "enjoyment, joy from forests" or said "at least no one will be offended by it." Some suggested that "reforestation can increase local amenity e.g. nature walks etc."

Some assembly members suggested that "once planted [a forest] doesn't take any energy", that it "doesn't use electricity" or that it has a "smaller carbon footprint to implement than building CCS technology." Some said it is a "good use of land that appears to have significant carbon capture impacts per area of land compared to other natural options."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members felt that forests and better forest management combine well with other greenhouse gas removal methods. Some assembly members suggested they "could be used as part of a natural cycle, in combination with building materials or bioenergy", or similarly that "trees, when they have reached their useful carbon capture life can be used for biofuels or for building (dual benefits)."

Some assembly members made similar points or talked about other ways forests and better forest management could be used:

For some assembly members forests and better forest management are a "good option for the UK – we have a lot of space for forests and tree planting...." Others felt "we have the space to do it particularly in [the] north of England and Scotland", that "small farms could be used for planting" or that we "can make better use of land." Some said "only 5% of land is needed to do enough of this – that's not a lot."

A number of assembly members felt it would be "easy to do", the "easiest to execute" or suggested that it can be "easily multiplied and repeated around the country", with others labelling it "achievable."

Some liked that it "doesn't rely on new technology ", "doesn't need too much technology" or "avoids emphasis on tech answers which may be being pushed more than appropriate to keep 'big boys' in jobs."

A number of assembly members noted that "we know it works" or that "trees are good at removing CO2 – it's a proven method ." Others suggested that it is efficient, saying it "stores lots of carbon." Some assembly members said "it takes the CO2 out straight away " or that we "can achieve [it] quickly." Others disagreed, saying "it's obviously important [and] worthwhile but [it's] a long-term solution."

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members said forests and better forest management would be "low cost ", "cheapest", "cost effective" or that they "could be upscaled relatively cheaply and quickly." One said they're "low cost, and will make an impact so [we] might as well." Another suggested they're "cheap and could be income generating."

Some assembly members suggested forests "attract tourists (e.g. Lake District)", or that they are "good for access for people – they can go and use the forest, means more leisure activities available, good for [the] local economy ." Others said it "makes money for the country", or that "forestry can bring jobs as well."

Public support

Some assembly members talked about the "aesthetics of forests" saying that "trees and forests are beautiful ." Others contrasted forests to the other options noting that "with bioenergy and CCS, it's more infrastructure (i.e. ugly buildings)." Some said they "like the idea of new forests and trees where not planted before", that we "wouldn't exist without trees" or that they are a "fan of trees – suggest encouraging landowners to give over [a] % of their land to trees."

One assembly member said it "brings people closer to nature." Another commented that "where I am from, where my family is from, on the continent, tree planting has always been part of our daily lives – you put it in, you take it out – it's a green option."

Safety and risk

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Other

Some assembly members stated they are "all for it", or that it's "very important – it's a major part of the solution i.e. whether that be in conjunction with BECCS or direct air capture for example." Others said it's a "win-win " with "a few niggles but overall a good idea." Some commented that they were "not sure why it's not at the top of the agenda, there's literally no bad point to it ", or that "as long as [it's] not impacting wildlife, what's bad about planting more trees."

Some assembly members expressed scepticism about suggested downsides, saying it's "been mentioned that one of the cons is that this method takes up land that could be used for other uses such as crops, farming, but that's not much of an argument especially when we're encouraging people to eat less meat and have fewer cows in fields." Others said it's "better to do something rather than nothing, so [we] should pursue this." Some assembly members said it "seems like common sense ", is a "no-brainer" or "should be happening irrespective of other solutions."

A number of assembly members said they felt it was a "global solution – planting trees anywhere on the planet has benefits for all" or should be a "global effort not just the UK." Some commented that "other areas in the world where we can plant trees could further increase the forest mass around the world."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about forests and better forest management.

Environment impact and land use

A number of assembly members suggested forests and forest management might not be that effective. Some said we "mustn't be naïve about how much carbon a tree can remove – it can only do so much" or it "doesn't take all carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere." Others noted it "takes 10 years for them to start absorbing CO2 and the tree becomes less productive at 100 years." Some questioned "how much difference will it really make?" or felt it wouldn't work long-term, noting "presenters said trees store carbon for decades, but this is not a decade's problem, it's a longer problem." Others suggested that "if the trees are cut down and burned this could have the reverse effect on CO2 levels", while some branded it "carbon 'relocation' rather than storage – the carbon will be released at some point...."

Some assembly members warned that we need to "be careful about [the] impact on wildlife " or the "impacts of non-native tree planting on biodiversity " including "for native trees." Others said that the "10 year optimum turnaround for forest trees before harvesting" was a concern "because of habitat and biodiversity impacts." Some suggested that there could "perhaps [be a] loss of biodiversity."

One assembly member highlighted the potential "health impacts on people of non-native planting e.g. allergens."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members asked "where are we going to get sufficient land from? ", or commented "[I am] unsure whether we have enough space to accommodate new forest… So much green space and farmland is lost to roads and housing where I live." Others questioned whether there was "enough available / suitable land for it to make a real difference in the UK (particularly in the south)", saying we "are a small country" and "5% feels like a lot of land." Others said it "won't be the 'one big solution' – needs too much land."

Relatedly, some assembly members worried about the "impact on other land use ." Some commented that "there need to be options other than using the land we need for growing food", or that we "could use land for other uses e.g. crops or biofuels etc" or "wind". Some assembly members asked "how scalable is it?" or suggested it has "limited capacity " because we can "only [have a] certain amount of trees."

For some assembly members there were other questions around feasibility. They asked "who will be prepared to give up land?" and "who will pay for the land?". Others said "there have been plans to plant more trees in the past and nothing has happened. Don't want to put a lot of money into something that doesn't end up happening."

A number of assembly members said it "takes a long time for them [trees] to grow and [we] need to grow a lot of them." Others said it "takes time before we see benefits" or we are "racing against the clock, so need [a] more aggressive solution ." Similarly, some assembly members commented that "trees take a long time to grow… [that means we] need something else as well – think need all the options to contribute."

Costs, the economy and jobs

One assembly member asked "how much will it cost?"120

Public support

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Safety and risk

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Conditions

Some assembly members noted conditions around the use forests and better forest management – points they felt would aid its implementation or that should be put in place. They suggested a need to:

Get the legislation right

Assembly members made comments including:

"We were told the law surrounding protecting tees is really weak, which means any developer can cut down any amount of trees unless it's a special tree, so we need stronger legislation that protects trees and forests to enable this approach to work."

"Don't know if there's a regulatory body that has an overview of all the forests but need one to ensure things are done correctly."

"There's a clear role for government to make sure that whatever is decided about forests sticks." It "needs to be set in law if it is to work."

Plant the right trees, in the right places

Some assembly members said they were happy with this idea as long as it's the "right kind of trees in [the] right places." For some this meant "as long as there is biodiversity" or as long as "it enhance[s] local areas and biodiversity." Specific comments included:

Others noted the need to think about what is planted where for other reasons:

"Mustn't impact on land use too much / need to find the right locations."

"It would be better to use less productive land, land that wouldn't be used for crops."

"Must be managed alongside farming."

Some said we should "grow fast-growing trees which are useful."

Plan properly and manage forests well

Related to the above some assembly members noted that "a proviso is tree planting can be done badly so need to have a plan to ensure it's done properly and work on tree management." Specific comments from assembly members included:

Think about what mature trees are used for

Some assembly members said that support was "conditional on what trees are used for when they reac[h] their carbon capture maturity" with some strongly opposing any use for bioenergy. Others felt we should "use the wood" and not "waste" it, with some suggesting we "use the wood for building so it doesn't release the CO2 so fast."

Combine it with other options

Some assembly members said it "needs to be done with other things", that it's a "brilliant thing to do but not enough on it's own" and that it "isn't enough on its own but is a starting point." Specific comments included:

Win support, including through incentives

Some assembly members said this "needs the support of landowners", while others suggested that "we need to entice anyone with any land, no matter how small, to plant trees." Some assembly members asked: "Forests aren't seen as progress, is that why it's less appealing to policy-makers? This option needs to be packaged in a way that's more positive." One assembly member said it would be important to "make sure that farmers are not pushed out or demonised (can do this with grants for farmers)."

Protect jobs and incomes

Some assembly members said we need to assess the potential "job creation benefit…. if forests are planted on former farmland, which may reduce jobs overall." Others said that "farmers need compensation for lost income."

Start now

Some assembly members suggested that we "need to start doing it now as [it] takes at least 10 years." Others suggested that we could "start by not cutting down existing trees."

Other assembly members asked whether "land-use [can] be combined, for example can trees be grown spread out over a large area of land?" and whether "hedges store carbon too?" Others suggested that this "needs to be co-ordinated nationally" and "must be combined with putting less emissions into the atmosphere." Some assembly members mentioned a need to look at forests abroad too "e.g. deforestation in Brazil, not enough international pressure to stop that but that's the only way for them to make money – need to support them in other ways."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed very strong support for forests and better forest management in their votes.

B.2 Restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands

Restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands refers to restoring or managing some naturally wet areas of land so that they absorb more carbon dioxide. Assembly members discussed this option in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands.

Environment impact and land use

A significant number of assembly members said restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands would "protect against flooding", "aids with flood protection ", "could help to prevent flooding if maintained correctly" or is a "flood defence." Others said it "holds back water to stop flooding" or that it "will abate a lot of the flooding (of which there has been an increase over the last few years) and will stop this in high risk areas." Some assembly members suggested particular benefits for coastal areas, suggesting that "when done in coastal areas [it] can help with flooding" or it's "beneficial for coastal erosion and flood planes where it can be a more bog like environment." Others suggested it would "ensur[e] land is not drained and sold for housing that would create flood risks elsewhere" or that "reducing flood risk / flood management needs" would have "additional economic benefits."

Some assembly members described restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands as "natural ", "a natural solution", or "part of the natural world." Some said that they "like nature orientated solution[s]" or that they "trust it more than man-made solutions." Others commented that "it's not interfering, it's more restoring things and removing existing management." Some said "it speaks to restoring nature."

A number of assembly members talked about the importance of protecting and restoring peatlands and wetlands. Some commented that "peatlands and wetlands have been there for thousands of years – we need to protect them" or that this is a "reason to protect and preserve current wetland areas that may be at threat." Others suggested that "managing what we have is important" and that we "should be doing it anyway." Some talked about a "need to stop current destruction of these areas" or said it was "not just a case of restoring wetlands but also keeping the ones that are still there. […] Need legislation to protect the wetlands."

Relatedly, some assembly members liked that it "look[s] after the countryside and wildlife", or is "good for wildlife ", "good for birds", or "good for biodiversity ." Some commented that "it maintains the wetlands for wildlife too", or particularly noted benefits for "moss, frogspawn & heather." Further comments included:

"They are beautiful, a source of nature and wildlife, birds fly in huge flocks, it's beautiful."

"Peatlands and wetlands have some of the …[highest] levels of biodiversity in the UK so returning these spaces to nature – plants animal/insect species has importance for the wider ecosystem e.g. pollination."

Some assembly members liked a "focus on restoration of peatlands and wetlands to stop further release of CO2 ." Others said that "peatlands and wetlands keep in CO2 which is good. Some commented that there is "good potential for CO2 absorption ", that it "captures CO2 " or "enhances storage." Others said that they "like that it's a carbon sink – holds carbon better than many other processes" or that it "locks up carbon unless it dries out / burns."

One assembly member described it as "environmentally friendly." Another said they "prefer forests or growing crops instead BUT disturbing the land is damaging."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members noted that we "have the knowledge and technology to do this " or that we "know how to restore it – unlike man made solutions where we don't know enough – there's no risk."

Some assembly members suggested that it is a "good ide[a] where applicable ":

"Every option should be used where it will offer the most benefit. For this one if it's there then yes, retain it and keep it. It's not applicable to everywhere."

Others said it has "strong potential as part of a mixed approach", "should be a part of our plans" or that it's "for a local level rather than at national level – it can only work where they are situated." One assembly member said it "can be used inland as well as [in] coastal [areas]."

Some assembly members commented that we "can start this fast", that it "seems to be the quickest method that will have an impact" or that it's "a quick solution, unlike some other measures."

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members felt it would be "good for [the] local economy " or that "there will be jobs in managing these areas." 

Some suggested it would be "low cost ", "not high cost" or a "cheap way to store carbon." Others said that "this appears to be one of the cheapest options to action – can be done very cheaply and offers the most benefits v least cost (apparently)." Other agreed suggesting it has "limited potential on its own– but if you bring this in in conjunction with forestry management then it seems like a really cheap and good way to capture carbon." Some assembly members suggested it was costly not to protect peatlands and wetlands, saying "the issue is building in these areas and the small number of properties that are there. It's costly to keep these areas dry, when it would be easier if they were wet."

Public support

Some assembly members suggested that you "could use wetlands for leisure too", that they are "good for leisure" and provide "good access for people." Others commented that they are a "nice place to go for a walk – introduce children to wildlife (pond dipping, catching tadpoles…)."

One assembly member felt that restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands was a good idea in order "to have an impact on the landscape and farming practices as a signifier of what needs to be done to change our ways of living."

Safety and risk

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Other

Some assembly members said it "delivers multiple benefits " or has "lots of benefits." Some asked "why wouldn't you want to do it!", with others describing it as "effective", a "win-win" or a "no-brainer ."

Some assembly members said they were "not sure why we're not already doing it – doesn't have any negative effects, is cheap to do, [and] has economic benefits after a certain period of time." Others commented that it has "no real negatives ", "I like it – it's not offensive to people", or that they have "nothing against it."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands.

Environment impact and land use

Some assembly members disliked that restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands "takes up a lot of space (land)", with some suggesting that there is "pressure on land use" or that it "could be a challenge finding adequate land for this." Others described it as a "waste of land."

Some assembly members said you "lose the land for any other use (except leisure)" or that the "land could be better used for other things e.g. food production." Other assembly members said "population growth is an issue, which means we need more housing", that "farming in the fens will be lost" or that we could "grow trees instead." Further comments included:

"Would it mean flooding a lot of fertile areas e.g. around Norfolk, Cambridge? Do we want to abandon crop growing in these areas? Not sure [we] want to flood these areas outright."

"The wetlands can't be used for anything else, e.g. as opposed to forests. Although it won't use up much land so it's not depriving much land from being used in other ways."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Assembly members raised two concerns about capacity and scalability :

Some assembly members summarised by saying you "can only do it in certain areas and those areas might already be done so limited impact."

Staying with concerns about impact, some assembly member expressed scepticism saying it "seems that we just need to keep places wet? Only applies to certain areas of the country – how effective could this be?" or that "it's nice on the surface, but will it be effective?" Others commented, "good [option]… – how much potential does it have though? How much C02 extraction exactly? If they dry out, what is released?"

Relatedly, some assembly members commented that it "can't be [the] only solution", that "we're going to need multiple solutions" or that it's "not the whole answer, won't fix the entire problem." For some assembly members restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands is "limited in where it can happen, [but] they mustn't be allowed to dry out."

A number of assembly members raised climate- and season-related issues :

"Concern about whether we can make sure it doesn't dry out – would this be more difficult as temperatures rise, harder to keep wet? This may be a bit 'chicken and egg'."

Similarly, some queried if it was "practical due to global warming", or noted that "climate change is affecting patterns of rainfall – would it cost to restore/keep areas wet, given that there is likely to be less rain in the future?" Other assembly members suggested that it "can sometimes store carbon in winter but release [it] in summer if it dries out", or that "in a very hot summer a fire could burn up a lot e.g. what happened in Yorkshire." Some said that it's "not viable long term" or that the "science is less certain about long term storage of the CO2 ."

Some assembly members suggested that there would be "issues with land ownership " although some felt these would be "manageable with incentives". Others said they were "worried about it being down to landowners to maintain this unless they were given an incentive to look after it" or said they were "not sure it's practical to enforce land-use changes."

Some assembly members felt it "might be a slow solution – how long would it take to restore damaged areas?", while others commented that "it will take a long time to see the benefits, we need something faster." Some compared it to other options, saying the "length of time it takes to form peat: 1 ha of peatland vs. 1 ha of good middle aged forest. […] Quicker to restore a forest, to grow trees than create a new peatland." Other assembly members disagreed: "Speed isn't an issue. We have until 2050 to reach net zero. 30 years to put it in place. If trees take 10 years to grow, that's fine. If these methods last a long time once they're in place, that's good."

Individual assembly members raised a number of additional concerns. One said "what will happen to buildings on existing wetlands?" Others worried that "flooding may be an issue, such as the wetlands in Glastonbury" or said "in East Anglia, for example, there isn't enough water for the new towns which are being developed so I don't know how there will be enough water to keep the fens wet."  One assembly commented "given it can reach equilibrium, will need to remove peat and then burn it."

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members said the "cost and effort of land management" was a "downside", suggesting it was "hard to manage" or that it "sounds like a full time job to manage it." Others said it was "not a big enough impact to justify the sacrifice of land and the management cost." Some queried "if it comes down to time, resources and money is it the right … focus? If we have limited resources, we should concentrate on the most cost-effective areas."

Public support

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Safety and risk

Some assembly members expressed concerns about the "releasing of CO2 if the peatland is damaged" suggesting that there is "potential for it to go wrong if one of them dries out - a carbon bomb."

Conditions

Some assembly members noted conditions around restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands – points they felt would aid its implementation or that should be put in place. They suggested a need to:

Combine it with other solutions

Some assembly members said it "needs to be part of [a] whole package" or "has to be done in combination with other measures." Others said more specifically that it "would only really make a significant contribution if combined with good practice in forestry and soil storage as different things will only work in different areas" or that we need to "align this with the 'what we farm' options and preferences." One assembly member commented:

"Peatlands and wetlands are an important investment that must be protected and expanded wherever possible. However, given that we only have a small amount of space suitable for peatlands and wetlands overall, we must also implement all other natural carbon capture solutions alongside to ensure we can capture as much carbon as possible."

Consider impacts on farmers, farming and land use

Some assembly members said that "farmers need to change their methods" or more specifically that there should be "changes in wider farming practices in line with peatland/wetland management, eg ditches." Others suggested that a "mechanism to compensate farmers needs to be in place." Some assembly members said that "if crops are still grown, [I] would be in favour" or cautioned "don't use all our cropland. Need to use the right land, e.g. moorlands where it's not good for crops anyway. Don't use fertile land." Others asked for consideration of the "impacts…action today have on future opportunities such as farming and land use for the future." More generally, some assembly members expressed "uncertainty over what will be lost."

Manage it well

Some assembly members said it "needs to be well managed" or that they supported it "as long as [it's] managed properly." Others said that it "needs to be managed and monitored to ensure it is effective and carbon isn't being released" or that it "needs management to keep the areas wet." Others said we "need to make sure these areas are being restored."

Maintain but not restore

Some assembly members said that existing peatlands and wetlands should be maintained, but that they wouldn't support restoring them or creating new ones.

Bans, regulation and legislation

Some assembly members suggested that "regulation is essential" or more specifically that we "should ban use of peat for compost" or that there's a "need for governments to take a hardline against compost with peat as this creates a demand." One assembly member said: "This should be done through very strong legislation to protect the areas from harm, including criminal sanctions for burning peatlands for grouse hunting."

Individual assembly members said if it "means less use of chemicals, [I] would be in favour", or expressed concerns about the destruction of peatlands to build windfarms. Others raised questions:

"What do utility companies (which have to pay maintenance / management) think of it?"

"National parks, charities etc already do it. Not sure how much is already happening."

One assembly member suggested that "peatland and wetland re-wilding efforts should be done with the guidance of local environmental groups to ensure buy-in and support from the local community". The same assembly member said we need to "put in place water supply back-up measures to prevent any drying or damage during our increasing heat-waves."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed strong support for restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands in their votes.

B.3 Enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil

Enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil means changing the way soil is managed so that it can store more carbon. Assembly members discussed this option in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil.

Environment impact and land use

Some assembly members said that enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil "improves soil quality " or suggested there would be "benefits for farmers from soil fertility." Others suggested there is a "general advantage to using soil wisely – it is common sense" or that it "must be a good idea – potential of carbon in the soil." Others said "tilling carbon into the soil so it gets absorbed and enriches it … [means it's] more fertile, similar to [using] compost."

Some assembly members said it would "contribut[e] to the health of the land and food grown through the use of less chemicals " or suggested more broadly that there would be "less pesticides", and "less use of chemicals (fertilisers)." Some described it as a "natural process (chemical free)" or said it would involve "using natural fertilisers, rather than synthetic." Other assembly members suggested there is "nothing to lose, I hate chemical fertilisers, we will get healthier foods, it's a win/win" or said "we're eating foods that come from the soil, so we need to make sure it's of high quality and doesn't contain anything that could jeopardise health." One assembly member commented that a higher "quality of food [would be] produced…."

Relatedly, for some assembly members enhancing the storage of carbon was "a natural approach" or "natural-ish." Some suggested it "runs with nature rather than intensive farming", "doesn't disturb the land" or stated that "even if it doesn't capture that much carbon still prefer natural – reaching net zero is not the only thing that's important." Others felt it "has added benefits (e.g. to the environment ), that it's "good for wildlife and birds" or that it "leads to good management of the land."

Following a different train of thought, some assembly members commented "like this one, requires changes to farming we would want to happen anyway. It's a win-win." Other similar views included:

"Like that farmers have their way to make an impact – they have to pay a price. They know that they will have to be a big part of the action in the future."

"Could also support the transition to layered farming, diversifying the food produced from a single piece of land."

Some assembly members talked about a return to the "old ways ":

"It would be positive to go back to the old ways, using crop rotation, which is beneficial to carbon capture."

"Out of the 6 methods [this is] probably the one I had least knowledge [of], asked the question and it's like going back to the old ways of farming – instead of using modern fertilisers with chemicals, so [I] can see the advantage of that."

"I live next to an arable farm, I have lived there 30 years, it was a quiet farm, used to leave fields to rest, but now it is so intense, they are growing things so quickly…."

Individual assembly members made a number of additional points, including that they liked that it "uses waste", "enhances storage" or that it "doesn't stop us using soil for crops, albeit different crops grown differently." One said it woild be "fast to absorb carbon", another that a "no-till option should be considered."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members described it as "well understood ", said "we have the knowledge and technology to do this" or that "changing farming methods is low cost and well understood." Others noted that "some people are doing this already", or suggested it would be "easy to implement", "could be quite easily achieved with small changes", "can be done quickly " or that we "can do this now." One assembly member said they thought it would be "effective." Another said it "might be more expensive than other practices… [it takes] much longer. [But it] [w]ill develop practices we can continue in the future. It's long term."

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members said it "is cheap to do" or "low cost." One assembly member suggested it "needs more labour so creates more jobs."

Public support

Some assembly members suggested it "may mean less production over time …but at the same time encourag[es] less food waste/changing diet so this may not be a bad thing anyway…." One assembly member said that it "works for vegetarians (there will be less livestock production)."

Safety and risk

No assembly members made comments in this area.

Other

Individual assembly members made a number of additional points. One said it is "great in theory if it works." Another that it has "no downsides." One said that "all the previous options have a benefit and should be done [including this one]" or that we "do need to use this as part of [the] solution but in a limited way."

One assembly member said they "saw an example of it being done on the telly – sounds interesting – documentary showed someone using direct ground sowing instead of ploughing. It was a researcher trying to get farmers to do it, but the farmer [him/her]self wasn't that keen on it."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil.

Environment impact and land use

Some assembly members worried that it would mean importing more food, commenting "i f we don't grow it – it will have to be imported and that causes more carbon emissions" or "if we are not having our own facilities to produce livestock – where will it come from – it will have to be imported." Some said that it "may lead to more food imports and the carbon footprint this would entail."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members said that "farmers will be reluctant" or that it "will be hard to make this happen, to shift away from modern methods, there are vested interests in farming." Others said that "farmers need to support it" or that "without financial incentives it might not work." Some commented that "farmers will be slow to change their methods as [they] are very traditional – it's passed through the family so very hard to change tradition." Others said that it's "difficult to leave land untouched in this way."

Some assembly members felt it has "limited potential so don't focus on this option", that it "won't be a solution in itself" or queried "how much [carbon] can soil absorb?". Others suggested that "land saturates quickly, so not an on-going solution" or asked "after a certain amount of time the land gets saturated: how long can you store carbon? How long can you keep doing that?" Others made similar, but slightly more positive points:

"Feels like a temporary solution: what do you do once the soil is saturated? Adding carbon into the soil might have benefits though (i.e. water retention is beneficial ….)"

"…we should definitely do it, but it can only do so much, it may not be scalable to take in a lot of carbon compared to other solutions which take much more."

"It would be a good idea, but it can only contribute so much to the solution."

Others said it is "not done at scale right now" and "it would need to be used in conjunction with other technologies due to the limited capacity." One assembly member commented that "it's natural, but [I] like it less than managing forests as [it's] less impactful and [I'm] less sure about how it works."

Some assembly members expressed a different concern, noting "uncertainty [about]… how long the carbon will stay underground ", or saying they were "unsure of how stable this type of storage is."

One assembly member suggested it "doesn't work with other strategies for reducing carbon (which will also need land). Need to combine scenarios to see what feasibly works." Another said we would be "less able to use this matter (i.e. compost material storing the carbon) for other purposes, e.g. as natural fertiliser."

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members suggested that "less produce makes food more expensive and [means] less jobs – goes against progress made in the past. People can't afford to pay for food any more." Others worried about a "knock-on effect on…[the] economy ."

A number of assembly members said they disliked that we "will have to financially support a lot of farmers to do it – not sure how it can be low cost if [we] have to do this or where the money will come from given we will be losing EU subsidies too." Others made similar points, suggesting it "could require financial support for farmers from [the] taxpayer – more expensive than peatlands or forestry etc …." Others agreed that it will "need [a] subsidy for farming" or that it would result in a "lower profit margin for arable farmers, so needs subsidy." Some asked whether the "costs of supporting farmers outweigh the benefits."

Relatedly, some assembly members suggested it "will take more work to farm " and is therefore "asking a lot of our farming community." Others said there is a "need for work to be done with farmers as this is a radical change", or that "there needs to be support for farmers" who "are struggling anyway…." Some assembly members highlighted the potential economic impact on farmers :

"There could also be an economic impact on farmers if they aren't producing as much food, the burden will be on them if they are making even less money."

"Will lead to lower crop yields and possibly lower food quality which will mean lower prices for farmers."

"Cost to farmers of changing their practices (because of need to disturb the soil much less), although they could develop new skills."

Public support

Some assembly members noted potential impacts on diets and lifestyles. Some said that the "issue with crop rotation is food becomes seasonal" or asked "how comfortable do we feel telling people what they can eat and restricting their diets? I'm comfortable with eating a seasonal diet, but are we comfortable telling others what they can / can't eat." Some noted a "potential concern that it may not be healthier", noting that "in [the] past government had to add salt and sugar to prevent dietary problems associated with seasonal diets." One assembly member suggested it "could create friction as its hard to get people to change behaviour." Another said it "will it have a negative impact on the food supply chain with the demand to grow crops quickly. This could act as a limitation for buy-in to this method."

Safety and risk

A significant number of assembly members raised concerns about impacts on food production:

"…would we maintain [the] same level of self-sufficiency?

"Will it affect food security in UK and can we afford to do it – will it make food more expensive?"

"Yield – Concern about lower yield of food and the impact this would have on food security. Will we be reliant on other countries, what will happen if there is another pandemic? We need to be more self-sufficient than we are as a country"

"Concerns about having left EU and whether dropping yields would mean less self-sufficiency."

Some assembly members worried that it "can't be good for carbon to be going into [the] ground or then our crops?" or expressed a "fear of carbon damaging the soil – least favourite of the options because of this." Others said it "might cause problems further down the line."

Other

One assembly member disliked that it "would need regulation."

Conditions

Some assembly members noted conditions around enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil – points they felt would aid its implementation or that should be put in place. They suggested a need to:

Incentivise and subsidise farmers

Some assembly members said that "financial incentives [are] required", that "subsidy and support for farmers will be key" or that there "would need to be subsidies for farmers to adopt these practices as it lowers the productive yield of the land area." Others agreed saying to "get that kind of change of agriculture, it's going to take financial incentives" and they "would have to be good incentives." Others suggested that there is a "likelihood of needing to offer farmers grants to use this approach…" or that we "need to provide grants."

Combine it with other options and provide more information

Some assembly members commented that it "would only really make a significant contribution if combined with good practice in forest, peat and wetlands management", "if coupled with reforestation [it] might be a good option", or that they're "[h]oping there's a hybrid solution that encapsulate the first 3 options and [is] not … overly reliant on one or another." Others made similar points, whilst also noting a need for more information:

"It can be done as well as – shouldn't be instead of - may require a focus on getting information out to understand it better"

"As [with] the previous 2 options it can be done as well as. May require some focus and provide more information to help people understand it better but should be considered regardless of the other choices"

Look at less essential areas first

Some assembly members suggested that "air travel is a luxury – more pressure should be placed there" or commented that "farming is an essential industry – flying isn't."

Tackle food waste

Some assembly members asked "how much food is wasted currently?" or said we "would need to reduce food waste e.g. stop throwing away 'funny-shaped vegetables' – role of supermarkets is key."

Think about where to do it and how land is used

Some assembly members said that it "must not be done on land used for farming" or that "if crops are still grown, [I] would be in favour." Others suggested it "should be done where it can – every little helps" or noted "a lot of land [is] being used for golf courses in the UK. This isn't essential. London has 11000 acres of golf course."

Consider fertiliser use

Some assembly members said "if it means less use of chemicals, [I] would be in favour" or noted that "we don't want [our] dislike of this option [to be taken to] mean that we're totally on board with polluting land with lots of fertilizer."

Others assembly members commented that we "need farmers", that there's a need to "get farmers involved" or that "farmers will need firm guidance." Others said that the "focus should be more on growing more of what we eat so we can become more self-sustaining."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed some support for enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil in their votes.

B.4 Using wood in construction

Using wood in construction means storing carbon by using wood instead of other materials to build houses and other buildings.

Trees naturally absorb and store carbon as they grow. This carbon stays trapped in the wood, again naturally, if they are cut down and used as timber in buildings. This process also creates space for new trees to grow and absorb more carbon from the atmosphere. An additional benefit to the climate is possible if timber is used instead of other materials such as concrete, which are currently manufactured with high carbon emissions.

Assembly members discussed this option in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about using wood in construction.

Environment impact and land use

Some assembly members felt that using wood in construction was a "good way to store carbon ", with some comparing it to other options saying we "prefer [it] to CCS as [it] captures all the CO2 " or that it "locks the carbon in the building compared to BECCS which still releases some carbon back into the atmosphere…" Others suggested it provides "good long-term storage of carbon, while being put to a practical use." Some commented that it is a "good building material – plus [it's] natural and carbon storing" or, similarly, that it's "a great construction material taking carbon out of the atmosphere – makes a lot of sense to be using wood as a building material." Others said simply it's a "good way to reduce CO2 ."

For some assembly members a positive was that it "avoids more CO2 intensive products (e.g. steel/concrete)", "reduces the need for cement and concrete" or would "change building practices away from using PVC etc which have negative carbon impacts in production." Others said there would be "knock on benefits…[from] reducing the demand for concrete, iron and other materials", or that it's "not the golden solution but [we] should utilise it so that it replaces more carbon intensive material such as concrete." Some labelled it a "low carbon building option, if they're [the trees are] from the UK." Others liked the reduced need to use bricks.

A number of assembly members said using wood in construction is "sustainable and practical", a "sustainable approach – Australia [has] lots of wooden buildings outside of cities" or that "compared to BECCS this is definitely a more sustainable method – using the wood for construction rather than for fuel alone." Others felt that "when [you] look at [the] long life cycle, it's good" or that "when compared to [other] building materials the life cycle of wood has a lower overall impact on the environment." Some said it's "not the same as the deforestation in [the] Amazon – it's just cutting fast growth timber from sustainable forests."

Others suggested that "even if wood has to be imported it would logically be shipped which is a low carbon form of transportation." Some assembly members suggested that "wood can be recycled – I use pallets in my garden" or that "wood used in buildings can be used and reused even if the building is demolished."

Some assembly members said that they "like the idea because it's green and because it doesn't produce carbon dioxide" or that "using renewable materials is positive." Some suggested it's "natural ", a "natural option", a "natural proces[s]" or that it's "always been done and [is a] natural low cost way to store carbon."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

For some assembly members, using wood in construction works well with other greenhouse gas removal methods. Some said it "will mean there's a use for the increased timber that we're growing", that it will "use the wood from the forests we plant" or that it "combines the goal of forest growth and using the wood so that forests are regenerated." Similar comments included:

"Works well with [the] idea of planting forests as [they] need to be planted on [a] long term basis to get large trees for construction – works well with forest management – need trees in different stages – can also help with BECCS."

"Fits the jigsaw: grow trees and then do something with them, so the carbon is locked up."

"Trees absorb the greatest amount of carbon in the early period of their life so when they're felled that's their productivity done. To use the material then makes sense. The natural technology locks the carbon for [the] lifetime of the build which can be for 20–40 years plus."

Some assembly members were sceptical about the potential negatives of the method. Some noted that it "can be laminated/ fire- treated to be used in higher builds" or that "new tech, e.g. coatings, is improving quality." One assembly member commented said that "personally [I] think it's a great idea – asked Chris [Stark] on Saturday about what happened to buildings knocked down or destroyed where the carbon is released into [the] atmosphere but buildings in UK last longer up to a few hundred years so less of an issue when we are trying to reach net zero in 30 years." Others suggested there is "not necessarily any difference in strength and appearance versus current [buildings]" or that wood "can be durable." Some commented that they "feel positively about it because…[there are] very old houses e.g. in Stratford that have lasted for hundreds of years with wooden beams etc" or that we "have wood frame houses that are still here many years later…but do we have the skills to still do this?"

Some assembly members said that "wood can be used in lots of different ways" or that "wood is a very flexible material can be used in lots of different ways in construction." Others suggested that "you can build more quickly using wood but this comes at the cost of being 10% more expensive" or that it's "quicker to build with wood construction." Some suggested it would be "warmer – wood houses are easier to keep warm than concrete" or that wooden houses would provide "better insulation."

Some assembly members said using wood in construction is "tried and tested, practical, saves CO2 ", that it is "well used", "being used already (USA, South Africa, Nordic countries)" or "we know how to do this already." One assembly members said it is "simple."

Individual assembly members noted a variety of other points. One said they were "excited by new engineering using wood", another that it "creates a useful product which satisfies a national need", another that it "grows quickly and [is] good for [the] purpose." One liked that it is a "long-term project as [you are] growing trees over a long time and then using wood." 

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members suggested it "could be cheaper (as a material in construction/house price)", or is "cheaper" or "low cost." Others foresaw a "lower cost of house building, with pre-building off site" or suggested that "wooden houses / buildings could be cheaper – advantage for first-time buyers." One assembly member described it as "more commercially viable."

Public support

Some assembly members commented that wood is "aesthetically pleasing ", "pretty", "a good and pleasant material", or a "lovely material". Others said they "love this idea – timber houses are beautiful aesthetically", "[we] like a nice wooden house", or we "love the architecture and wooden beams, but [are] concerned about safety and cost." Some suggested it "looks nice – can be used for local businesses, smaller builds so not just homes."

A number of assembly members were pleased that it "can't build tall buildings as people don't want to live in the air":

"Like the idea that we won't have as many tall buildings in our cities – like buildings that are in keeping with [the] landscape. After covid the increase in home working [means] we won't need as many high rise office blocks. Some of these are redundant anyway – parts of the [hotel the assembly took place in] in Birmingham were not let; wasn't really needed in the first place."

Some assembly members said "we are familiar with wood building", or that it's "well known." One assembly member suggested that "carpenters will like it." Another liked the "opportunity to build more with wood." A third felt positive about the "incremental change in the way we live."

Safety and risk

No assembly members made points in this area.

Other

Some assembly members said that "in principle [it's a] good idea to use wood" or that it "sounded positive – can't see any negatives ." Others said it's a "no-brainer as long as [it's] used in conjunction with other methods", that we "should use it where we can", that they are "positive about it" or that there are "no downsides." One assembly member said:

"Wood has been used for centuries when constructing buildings. It is probably the most common building material used in bigger countries such as America, Australia etc. We would also need to grow more forests/woodlands to supply the wood material over the longer term. A win/win situation."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about using wood in construction.

Environment impact and land use

S ome assembly members raised concerns about imports and sustainability. Some worried that "UK wood supply might not be sufficient", said they had "concerns about there not being a sustainable source of wood to allow the scale needed," or disliked that "in the short term, we'll need to import timber to do this." One assembly said:

"There's a lot of construction going on in Cornwall [where I live]– need a lot more forest to match it. Scale not feasible, and amount of time needed to grow all the trees needed."

Some assembly members asked "how do we know wood is coming from sustainable forests and not from other countries not done sustainably?" or said they disliked "importing from other countries (e.g. Baltic) if the wood is not from sustainable sources." Others felt that "shipping trees from elsewhere to use in UK construction would be a problem because of the fuel used." Some assembly members suggested that "lots of regulation [would be] needed to make this local and sustainable."

Raising a different point, some assembly members asked "if this means low-density housing, do we have the space for that?" or said "lower density is more land – meaning that we have to build out instead of up." Some assembly members expressed "concern about land use, other things may be more important e.g. forests and farming."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

A large number of assembly members raised concerns around "implications for building durability and strength ":

Other assembly members said that "brick homes feel more secure" or referenced the "'three little pigs' i.e. doesn't seem sensible to build homes out of materials that don't seem as strong as brick/stone." Some said they were "unsure about their efficiency (heat/energy etc)" or queried "whether wooden houses were appropriate for the UK's climate ."

Some assembly members disliked the "difficulty of building tall buildings with it", that it "can't yet be used for taller buildings" or that it "only works for low rise buildings." Some assembly members suggested that not being able to build tall buildings "may be an issue with population growth", commented that we "can't all live in semidetached houses" or said that using wood would be "impractical for the big housing estates we need in the UK." Others asked "what's required for us to make the transition away from building very tall buildings in commercial use?"

Some assembly members suggested using wood in construction is "limited by the amount of wood available" or said they were "not sure what scale this can be done [at]." Others said it "can't be done at [the] scale needed" or that there are "some questions about [the] scale of this – needs to be done with other approaches – like it less than forests and peatlands." Some assembly members raised concerns about capacity, suggesting there is "limited capacity in UK – i.e. only need 330,000 new houses to meet demand, so where will we use the wood?" or said that there would be "lots of problems getting enough manufacturing capacity in the UK." Some assembly members said it "takes a long time to grow " or asked "where is the wood going to come from? If it's hard wood, that takes a long time to grow."

A number of assembly members were sceptical about the impact of wood in construction on emissions. Comments included:

"If they don't last long, you'll be releasing carbon"

"Other technologies might have more impact – need to find a better concrete that is longer lasting and doesn't use so much carbon"

"Materials used to make things out of wood aren't so low carbon either e.g. plastics injected"

"Can't absorb carbon once built (only store)"

"Potentially robbing Peter to pay Paul – would demand for timber decimate the forests?"

"Hard to see [a] major impact on carbon, won't fix it all"

One assembly member asked "is there any political will – there was a Code for Sustainable Homes that was scrapped."

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members raised "concern about cost ", suggesting it "might raise construction costs" or that the "current prices of wood as a building material seem to be too high for people to do this voluntarily." Some suggested a need to "consider people who aren't on the property ladder; will they be able to afford a property – they shouldn't be burdened."

A number of assembly members suggested that "we'd need a new skill set and change to modern building practices " or that there would have to a "change to business skills e.g. brick layers." Some asked, "would construction companies want to do it, given steel frame is quicker and easier to put up than a wood frame, and easier to shape? Do they have the skills, if they haven't been using wood for ages?" One assembly member suggested a need to find an "economic balance with the take away from steel production."

Public support

One assembly member felt that the "public will be sceptical." Another raised a "concern this is being proposed by policy-makers to sidestep more difficult questions about housing stock – they should be focussing on making sure everyone has a home in the first place rather than using carbon reduction as a diversion e.g. addressing [the] high proportion of second homes in certain areas." 

Safety and risk

Some assembly members worried about "fire safety and safety issues ", asking "will houses burn?" or saying they were "worried about fire in cities." Some said they had a "question as to whether the laminate made it safer" or asked "do the chemicals used as fire retardants have negative impacts on human health/emissions?" Others said there is a "greater risk of fire in properties built with wood", while some talked about the Grenfell tragedy:

"Remember Grenfell tower. Reason why we use steel now is because of concerns over fire. It [wood] will also be weaker when it is wet."

"The buildings burning down – concerned about lack of regulatory control (e.g. Grenfell) to manage this."

Some assembly members expressed concerns about "risks of flooding and severe weather – how strong are they?"

Conditions

Some assembly members noted conditions around using wood in construction – points they felt would aid its implementation or that should be put in place. They suggested a need to:

Manage it properly

Some assembly members said they would support it "as long as it is managed effectively" or that "if it is done properly then it's a good idea." Some commented that "while off the top of your head you are thinking don't chop trees… when properly managed it makes a lot of sense." One assembly member noted: *There are 800 year old buildings made of timber and very new concrete buildings falling down. It's how we manage them that is the important thing."

Reduce fire risk

Some assembly members said that "growing the trees will take time, which will buy time for finding ways of reducing fire risk." Others said they would support the idea if "the fire risk can be reduced" or if "there are ways to make it less flammable." Some commented that it "must be fire safe." Other assembly members suggested we need "legislation to ensure that building with wood is done correctly (addressing the safety concerns)" or that we "need robust regulation."

Do it sustainably

Some assembly members said they were "happy as long as it is managed and done sustainably", while others suggested a need to "regulate to ensure sustainability and keeping it local." Some assembly members said it "needs to be done properly, using a tree at the end of its' life" or that the "danger is trees are just used for building houses and felled before their most efficient period of capturing carbon." Others said they "need to be built to last, with the right wood, otherwise carbon will be released." Some said there is a need to look at "what happens to the wood afterwards" and that it "still doesn't solve the problem of what to do with the timber at the very end of its life." Others suggested that "unless you set up a good recycling system with CCS" the end of life question was "a risk."

Consider which building to use it for

Some assembly members said that "demand for new houses should be met by using timber" or "definitely for new build houses but not for hospitals and key buldings." Conversely others queried, "our building stock is old…how much new construction will there be?" Some assembly members said they would "like to use it where we can but not to the detriment of the safety/longevity of a building." Some asked "can terraced housing be made of wood? This needs a mindset change to buy and maintain buildings like this."

Think about other uses too

Some assembly members noted that we can use wood for "furniture, doors, houses", or said "we need to cast our imagination wider, use it for bridges, infrastructure etc."

Use UK trees and fit plans to supply

Some assembly members said they would support it "if we can use UK trees", that it's "less advantageous if we have to import wood" or that it "needs greater supply of UK wood (would defeat purpose if wood was imported)." Relatedly, others suggested that "scale needs to be limited to supply." Some assembly members pointed out that some "cement is made abroad."

Develop skills, technology and infrastructure

Some assembly members suggested that "we need to learn the skills to build and maintain the buildings" or that "we need time to develop the skills to do it at scale." Others said that it "needs further development e.g. lamination method for strengthening wood" or that we "need factories to process the timber and build the sections for the buildings." Some asked "Government to incentivise [the] building industry to change and re-skill." 

Think globally

Some assembly members felt it "requires [a] global response" and is "more suitable for some countries than others." Relatedly, some assembly members talked about their own experiences abroad:

"Lucky enough to spend a year in California and 2 years in Japan, earthquake areas, don't build with bricks. Normal domestic buildings are made of wood. … don't have the longevity – 30 years maximum – striking. Don't expect the longevity of brick building. Talking to people – living in rural Japan: when a couple gets married, they build their own house, there is no second hand house market – very different approach. Heard it said: you plan a brick building to last 100 years in the UK. More in tune with current living – decades vs hundreds years. If you build houses every thirty years, it is more in tune with the way we live currently."

"Relatives who live in the US. Even in New York – lots of wood in building – cheaper to build, and it does decay – have to change panels…."

Other points made by individual assembly members included:

"…should be done in factories to be more efficiently built – built to the way you want it – … build faster/ ensure less waste – go for wood – the way we build now is not efficient."

"…would need to be mandated to create the economies of scale that would make it an affordable option for builders, particularly in larger commercial buildings."

"Happier for longer-growing trees."

"Need good quality timber and timber products."

"Treat the wood, but take care what chemicals used."

In the votes, assembly members expressed strong support for using wood in construction. Please see below for the results of the votes.

B.5 Bioenergy with Carbon Capture and Storage (BECCS)

Bioenergy with Carbon Capture and Storage (BECCS) means using wood or crops for energy, capturing and storing the carbon dioxide released when they are burned. Assembly members discussed this option in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about BECCS.

Environment impact and land use

Some assembly members said that there's a "place for it because of the energy it creates and can be used for" or that it's a "carbon-neutral way of getting energy ." Others liked the energy production but at a small scale:

"Energy production and captures positive elements – but for use at a small scale"

"For heating – small plants could be useful, could have its own role. Still, not to that large extent where you have a massive power plant."

One assembly member said it "encompasses lots of good elements, but not at a large scale." 

Some assembly members said they were "not massively positive about this option but do like idea of growing crops and plant material to burn for fuel…." Others said "I quite like it – use the trees we're growing" or "the idea is good – use what we grow ." Some suggested it's "sustainable, once [you've] used the crops you can regrow." One assembly member said it's a "natural fuel [and a] win-win. The carbon has been absorbed recently." Others argued:

"The wood that is imported is fast grown in places where it makes sense to…[grow] them, shipping the wood is low cost in terms of emissions. When turned into pellets and burned using this technology for energy and subsequently capturing the carbon for storage it is a virtuous circle that has got benefits to it."

Some assembly members said they liked it "if it is making use of waste products to generate energy" or that the "only advantage to this would be if you were burning waste."

A number of assembly members said "CCS will be a game changer", "with the CCS attached – there is a huge impact ", or it "should have a large effect." Others suggested that it's the "greatest chance of getting us to net zero in the timeframe" or that it "does a lot in a short space of time." Some talked about the "sheer volume of carbon dioxide we can achieve through this approach", with some commenting it's "more…than the natural options." One assembly member said "BECCS is my first choice because of the sheer volume of removal of CO2 ." Others similar comments included:

"Think it will be effective. Will be higher in cost than natural approaches but we are going to need to spend some money to make a big difference."

"Come round to BECCS compared to before – if it's done properly it can be hugely positive, given how much CO2 this method can take out of the atmosphere. Needs to be regulated to ensure its done in the right way – i.e. not growing forests just for the sake of burning wood."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members said BECCS "has a part to play along with other solutions " or that it "should be part of a broad range of solutions – we have to try everything." Others said that it "can take up [the] remainder after other methods [are] exhausted - has potential" or that it "would be OK in moderation, but prefer natural processes." Some assembly members said "we do need to keep the lights on when the wind stops blowing – analysis seems to show we're still going to have to use gas – so CCS is needed (although not necessarily BECCS)." Some commented that "technology is an important part of the solution."

Some assembly members suggested that "in the future, there will be a lot more bio-energy. [….] … there is potential – option worth considering – in 100 years, might be the main method we are using for energy. That might be the future ." Others made similar points:

"My favourite option – I understand that it takes time. Even if it captures 60% now with the tech we have in the future it will become more efficient."

"This is probably the way forward. Use the trees to heat our homes."

A number of assembly members noted that a range of resources needed for BECCS already exist. Some said "we have the plants needed for the biomass" or that "existing power stations can be converted." Others said that "we have enough storage space" or that the "storage is there". Some mentioned it "seems good in theory that we can use the empty space left by oil and gas extraction to store carbon" or talked about the "potential of so many empty gas and oil fields in [the] north sea that it could be stored in… expensive to get them there, but would revert to a solid over time." One assembly member commented:

"I was very opposed to CCS initially, I was imagining CO2 ready to leak out, but Chris Stark talked about it bound in the rocks: no possibility of leakages. Doesn't create risks for future generations. [My] [o]pinion about CCS shifted a lot…if carbon is bound in a solid inert form under the sea, with no risks of escaping, much more keen…."

Some assembly members suggested BECCS is an "end-of-life solution for timber which has been used in construction" or that "if we have to renew the forests – then it seems to make sense. It's better as a by-product instead of for its own sake." Similarly other assembly members commented:

"If done well, it's a plausible idea. For example, the forests need to be well managed and the biomass should be created as a by-product of other processes."

Some assembly members said we have "good knowledge of how it works " or "some proof/maths that it can reduce the problem." One assembly member said it's "achievable." Another said "my own experience of heat networks is positive." 

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members talked about an "economic revitalisation potential (e.g. Teeside)" or said they "like [the] idea of converting old coal fired power stations to biomass, you can employ the same people."

Public support

Some assembly members said it "will make use of industrial expertise, technological knowledge, it will create lots of interest – it's a 21st century solution which will be appealing."

Safety and risk

One assembly member felt "reassured regulation will make it safe."

Other

Some assembly members said they preferred BECCS to other options. Some commented it is "better than the soil option if you can contain the CO2 " or that it "seems a better idea than the fossil fuel power plant CCS." Others suggested that it "offers things that other processes don't. It can be used for essential fuels instead of fossil fuels e.g. aviation." Some suggested that it "may be more effective than other options." One assembly member said "I like the concept."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about BECCS.

Environment impact and land use

A large number of assembly members suggested BECCS failed to address the problem. Some said they are "worried that it takes the focus off the amount that we are emitting in the first place" by sending "the message that there is a magic technology taking carbon out of there":

"Just using technology to hide our own mess for the future. It's not a solution. We need to change our way of living and not just rely on tech to clean up our mess."

"They are only capturing the CO2 they have produced in the first place, why not not produce it in the first place."

"Not convinced that this will actually reduce carbon, will just be taking out what it puts in."

Similarly, some assembly members said we "can't always rely on a quick tech fix" or suggested that "this is being pushed politically – a tech solution is politically more convenient than the behaviour change options that are needed." Some said they "don't see it as a very long term solution" or commented:

"If net zero is meant to be about securing the long-term / our children and grandchildren's futures then this seems like simply pushing the problem under the carpet for others to solve later."

Relatedly, some assembly members noted "concern people will get carried away with technologies like this, we mustn't rely solely on new technologies and simply carry on as normal. What happens if it doesn't work ?" Others said it "seems like doubling down…If it works, great, but if it doesn't we're screwed." Some assembly members asked "what if we waste 10 years and don't get the carbon reduction we need?" or "if we still have this problem in 100 years what happens then?"

Some assembly members raised further points about its impact on emissions, noting that it "only takes in a certain amount – not net zero in itself" or commenting "as a concept it seems very difficult to imagine how it achieves net zero, might it cause increases in CO2 ?" One assembly member noted that you "need energy to do this."

Some assembly members disliked the "amount of land it will need ", felt it "needs lots of land (if at scale)" or noted "concern about biomass and too much land take if people get carried away." Others suggested it "takes up a lot of space that could be used for a lot of other things e.g. crops or forestry or houses", "uses up land that could be used for other purposes" or said they were worried about the "impact on food production and biodiversity." One assembly member commented: "At the risk of being wrong: we've not been self-sufficient in food since before WW1, I'd prefer food security as a priority."

Some assembly members disliked "imports from other countries" or queried "can we grow enough? Will we have to import fuel?" Others commented "really against this – the ethics of where [we're] buying this from…", or "didn't realise we may need to import trees to use for bioenergy for this – this defeats the purpose of trying to get to net zero." Some asked, "would some of the trees need to come from abroad – so there would be shipping costs and emissions from shipping – seems ludicrous" or noted "at Drax, wood is converted to chips and dried. Theirs is from Sweden and the US. It goes through several stages before it is burnt." Some assembly members said:

"…biomass burning is currently using trees from the United States where there is less regulation compared to other countries. They have been known to fell old growth forests to chop down into wood pellets to burn – so actually by burning such wood this carbon is released back into the atmosphere that would otherwise have been stored in the trees…."

Some assembly members commented "don't grow trees to cut them down and burn them", it's a "bad thing if we are just planting things to burn ", or "growing stuff to burn it...conflicted by the burning element, hard to tolerate. What are the real implications at scale – is it feasible." Others said that they "don't have a problem with capturing carbon, but [it's a] bad idea to be burning wood, might as well burn coal and capture that." Some suggested it "seems to be a long way round – to grow trees, burn them and then capture their emissions."

Some assembly members worried about the "impact on wildlife " or said they were "worried about nature e.g. birds nesting" when forests are thinned. Others suggested there is a "risk of changing the make up / health of the oceans" because of where the carbon is stored.

One assembly member said I "generally, prefer more natural solutions e.g. forest management." Another commented that they "can see problems with deforestation – timber has to come from somewhere – can't believe it's a viable proposal."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members said they are "sceptical of the whole thing given it hasn't been tested fully to any scale " or suggested there is "no proof of doing it at scale." Others had related concerns, querying its "feasibility at scale – high cost, infrastructure?", or asking "will it be very local, e.g. heat networks? Is it plausible across the country?" Some questioned "is there enough biomass?"

Relatedly, some assembly members said that the "technology is new", "not proven ", "not well understood" or that they are "not convinced it is viable." Others commented specifically that "carbon capture is new, not well tested – will it work?" or suggested "we don't know if it actually turns back into rock," or that there is "no evidence of how the natural rocks in proposed storage sites will really react to the 'carbon sponges' over time." Some suggested that the "technology doesn't even exist yet – it's 'pie in the sky'." Others queried "will it be done on time?" or commented "at the moment we have no way of carbon capturing – plant was supposed to be built 5 years ago…."

Some assembly members felt BECCS is less preferable than other energy sources. Some said that we "may as well use coal" or that "if you've got the carbon capture technology, why not use it for gas and coal – industrial revolution showed we moved away from timber burning for a reason, it's inefficient – leave it in the timber in the first place." Others suggested it "only takes carbon out of the atmosphere to the extent that it reduces other forms of power generation. So, does it make sense to do this at all – should we not, for example, use wind power instead?"

Some assembly members suggested that "having enough storage is a challenge " or that it "sounds good on paper but how much space under the ground will it need?" Individual assembly members commented that it "would need a lot of infrastructure", or that "I don't like the idea of storing CO2 : much better to create synthetic fuels…." One said "pellets are an issue – it's complicated." Another assembly said that "burning wood for generating electricity is a very inefficient method. For the same of amount of electricity generated, it creates 4 times as much CO2 as natural gas and approximately 1.25 times more than coal. Also, it has a very low energy density, and you need a lot of it. So it's not a very efficient or effective method of generating electricity, or reducing CO2 ."

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members talked about "high costs ", "very high cost" or "expensive capital." Others said it "seems like a higher cost than other solutions", that it's "too costly therefore not feasible" or that the "initial high cost would put people off." Some said it's "expensive (particularly when the investment is in an unknown outcome)." Some assembly members asked "would people be willing to pay?", "will government pay?" or "who's going to pay for the buildings needed? Tax payers or private companies?" Some assembly members suggested "there would be a lot of costs involved in re-skilling and re-training people to grow trees." Others noted "cost….[is] expensive, although will there be a bigger reward in the longer term?"

Public support

Some assembly members said they disliked "transport options [for] getting the fuel to the plant" or that "Drax has huge trains bringing fuel to the plant." One assembly member said: "[I] live next to a biogas plant: doesn't have CCS. It is a nightmare because the farmer is supposed to grow maize to supply the plant – hundreds of trucks coming in and out of his farm for about a month: creates a lot of emissions. [….] Huge amount of maize is imported: keeps the plant going for the whole year. Should not have had the go ahead. He is not operating the plant as he should do."

Safety and risk

A very large number of assembly members said they were worried about leaks. Points included:

Some assembly members said they "would rather have a small amount of nuclear waste in the north sea than a load of carbon dioxide" or that it "feels like burying rubbish underground." Others had concerns about "transport to storage in oil fields", with some suggesting it was a "terrifying concept – 50m tonnes of CO2 being transported. That's a lot."

Other

Some assembly members said there is "too much push from industry on this – are they influencing the climate change committee?" or that "CCS feels like a bit of a PR stunt, pushed by big companies. But a tree can already do this."

One assembly member said I "don't see BECCS as a solution – burning something so quick that could be used for construction – can't capture all of the carbon – feel like it's wishful thinking that this could be the solution  should be considering the other options – massive amount needed to grow to meet need for something that is going to be used up very quickly, which leads to massive deforestation." 

Conditions

Some assembly members noted conditions around BECCS – points they felt would aid its implementation or that should be put in place. They suggested a need to:

Think about scale

Some assembly members said we should "use [it] as a small scale solution" or that it "would be OK as long as it's done in moderation." Others said "75% BECCs is too much, use other options."

Only use it where there is no alternative

Some assembly members asked "could it be capped…to air travel and agriculture: could it be restricted to meet the needs of what can't be reduced?" Others said it's "fine when used for essential fuels e.g. bio fuels for airplanes, where only alternative is fossil fuels."

Use natural approaches first

Some assembly members said we "need to prioritise natural options", "need to use up options 1–3 first before resorting to this" or "should be using natural approaches straight away as we know they will work and use these technologies in the background as over time we will understand them better, they will improve, cost may improve." Some commented that we "need to have some more reliable forms of energy for when not windy etc, so carbon capture is helpful for those times – didn't like idea of burning wood for this – if this is necessary then fine but sceptical on cutting trees down to burn them when we might as well keep using gas and capture carbon from that." Others suggested that "historically, carbon has been stored in the soil and converted into oils and diamonds, and coal etc… We need to push that carbon option. "

Undertake research and development

Some assembly members said it "needs further development" or "needs to be encouraged. […] Let's put money and investment and explore." Others commented "if these CCS techniques improve, if storing in geological space if safe, then it's possible." One assembly said it "needs more funding to improve the system and ensure Carbon Capture is secure."

Consider which raw materials to use and where they come from

Some assembly members said they would be happy "only if we use waste products, not if we import" or that we "must focus on doing this with waste – don't use 'useable' materials for this." Some said "with wood – must use waste, eg from the 'wood in construction' option." Others said "don't import materials for this method" or suggested that "using this method would require close regulation to ensure practices such as those in the US are not repeated here." One assembly member commented: "Bioenergy with carbon storage seems to be a fantastic carbon neutral source of energy. However, the biomass needs to be from the UK and not imported."

Consider and manage risks

Some assembly members said we "need to weigh up the risks and rewards", that "storage facilities need to be well managed" or that "I would be in favour if it was proven it would be 100% secure."

Queries around funding

Some assembly members said they would be in favour "if the cost can be reduced." Others raised queries:

"There was funding by the UK to create a CCS facility – it was abandoned as economically unviable. Why did this happen?"

"Why hasn't the government supported this – is it because of the cost or because the science isn't there?"

Must not be used for enhanced oil recovery

Some assembly members discussed that any carbon captured "must not be used for the process of enhanced oil recovery" saying it would make BECCS "entirely self-defeating and will lead to even greater emissions."

Individual assembly members commented that it "needs to be part of a range of GHG [removal] measures", that it "must be done sustainably, eg no fertilisers to rush growth", or that "technology is great, but humans need to start taking responsibility for our impact on our surroundings." Others individuals said they would support it if "we use reverse pipelines to transport the carbon to the storage area" or "if we can meet the capacity for this and Wood for Construction." One assembly talked about their own experience of living next to a biogas plant, already noted above:

"Need controls: otherwise causing so much trouble. Planning application required that he grew the maize himself. He is not operating the plant as he should. Reported. Inspectors. But there's a line of communication between him and council officials from the local authorities."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed limited support for BECCS in their votes.

B.6 Direct Air Carbon Capture and Storage (DACCS)

Direct Air Carbon Capture and Storage (DACCS) means using technologies to capture carbon dioxide directly from the air, then storing the carbon. Assembly members discussed this option in small groups, noting pros and cons.

Pros

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they liked about DACCS.

Environment impact and land use

Some assembly members liked that DACCS "can be located at sea so not using land ", that we "don't need to grow anything – land can be used for other things" or that it's "not taking up land as much."

Some noted that it "can capture a lot of CO2 " or "could take more carbon out than just net zero." One assembly member commented: "I believe the direct carbon capture and storage will actively address the challenge we face of removing carbon by 2050." Others said it's a "really good idea – has the potential for large capacity."

Some assembly members suggested DACCS is "very clean ", "cleaner" or that it meant our "energy requirement can be met by clean energy." One assembly member commented: "I feel this is the cleanest method of removal with the smallest carbon footprint associated with it, that has the most capability for significant removal of CO2 ."

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

Some assembly members said it "can be located anywhere " or that it doesn't " need to attach next to a power plant, can put [it] wherever." Others suggested it "could be carried out close to the storage spaces (e.g. offshore, or close to offshore connections) so reducing transportation compared to other CCS options" or that it "can be located to reduce [the] cost of transport."

Some suggested it "can be placed beside off shore windmills which seems like the perfect solution", that it "could be wind powered " or that it "could be done at sea e.g. powered by wind farms."

Some assembly members labelled it "part of the mix of options to remove GHG" or felt it "has potential as part of the mix of solutions ." Others said it "doesn't hurt to have it – not a huge part to play but every little helps? One of many parts of the strategy", that it's "possibly a quick solution if all other measures fail" or that the "only real positive could be that it's an in-between solution." Some assembly members felt it's a "good idea, but shouldn't be done on its own. It is a new tech and so we don't know how effective it will be or how cost effective – should be a back up option but not the main part of the approach to net zero." Others said it's "good to develop new technologies " or that "science can help us and innovation can be used to remove the excess CO2 ."

A number of assembly members noted that we "have the North Sea for storage" or that the "storage capacity exists (under the north sea)." Some liked the "simplicity of the method" or noted that "one of the speakers described it as a floating boat stuck next to a power plant in the north sea…if it's as simple as that, it sounds OK."

Some assembly members suggested there was an "opportunity for international collaboration ":

"This needs to happen, but could be more effective elsewhere in the world, e.g. set it up near the equator to use solar energy, run in partnership with the UK investing."

"Saudi Arabia would be a good place to develop this, with the sun for renewable power and all the ex-oil storage. We should be thinking about worldwide approaches here."

Individual assembly members made a range of other points. One said I "quite like the idea…. How big would the plants be? Would we have fields of direct air capture like wind turbines or would we put them out to sea?" Another said "the mechanical units can be small, don't have to be big." Others noted that "lots of research has been done" or that it "only takes 2 years to convert it to rock. I thought it would have been much greater than this." One suggested that we "could use the carbon captured for useful things like carbon fibres (same for other CC technologies)." Another said I "prefer it to BECCS." One said there are "no physical inputs [of biomass] required."

Costs, the economy and jobs

Some assembly members suggested that we "will start to get a return which will drive down costs", that "costs could fall " or that the "cost could come down over time." Others suggested it "may give the biggest bang for buck ", or that "oil and gas companies will make it viable and will make money from it ." One assembly member said it would "create jobs, lots of people involved in the research side."

Public support

No assembly members made points in this area.

Safety and risk

No assembly members made points in this area.

Other

Some assembly members said it "has the right end goal" or that they "feel positively about the idea in theory, makes sense to me." Others labelled it a "good idea in principle but [the] technology needs to develop" or a "good backup  – continue to research into it…" Others said "what's not to like from the concept? Removes carbon from the air no matter what the source" or "great if it works, could be a good idea, keep researching, but the main focus should be other areas." Some assembly members commented:

"What is wrong with spending money on it. You have to invest to make something work. I'd like to see Government step up and give it a go. Another potential benefit of the impact of Covid where we saw the impact of engineers on making ventilators – can't we harness the same process."

Cons

Assembly members identified the following areas as points that they disliked about DACCS.

Environment impact and land use

A significant number of assembly members said that DACCS is "not as natural as other options", that they "prefer natural solutions" or that "if it saves the same amount as natural options, then would prefer the natural." Others said that "it's a gut instinct that it goes against nature", that it "feels like trying to create technology to do what nature should do" or that we "should not need to be investing in new technologies when there are better solutions to minimise carbon release and maximise carbon storage naturally." Some feared it "takes away the focus from natural processes available now - too many questions as to whether the technology can be invested in and developed in the long-term and whether in the end it can do what it intends" or suggested "this is just what a tree does – unless this is going to do the same job of thousands of trees, don't think it's worth it. Should just plant trees instead."

Another significant number of assembly members suggested that "we should try to reduce the carbon emissions, not just capture them once they've been emitted." Others said it "seems like playing round the edges rather than tackling the problem of reducing emissions", that it's "like burying problems and putting your head in the sand", that it "potentially lets companies off the hook from changing other practices" or that there's " too much pushing of 'carbon storing' options which just kicks [the] can down the road. Need lifestyle changes instead, and the associated public information exercise." Some assembly members said it "should not be used as an excuse to carry on using fossil fuels, need to find better ways forward", that we're "concern[ed] this will let us slip back to using more fossil fuels" or that it seems "reactive rather than proactive." Similarly some registered "concern that it will be … treated as magic solution and we don't do other important things before 2050." Others noted "concern people are jumping on things that will create jobs, we should make sure it's going to reduce carbon emissions to the extent we need it to."

Another significant number of assembly members disliked that it "needs a lot of energy ", the "energy it takes", that it's "very power intensive" or that it "requires electricity to run in the first place." Others suggested that its "energy use can defeat [the] purpose" or that "this will need loads of CCS and the carbon capture uses lots of power so we might get into a spiralling situation." Some noted it is "energy intensive to run so still needs to be fuelled – inefficacy", that you "need power to run a pipe for the CO2 " or that it "only works if using low carbon electricity sources, not if using high carbon electricity – requires lots of low carbon electricity." Similarly, some said "this also relies on the energy used to power the technology being produced in a carbon neutral way, which may not be the case so seems counter-productive."

Some assembly members said they disliked the "land use implications", that it "requires lots of land for the fans" or that it "takes up a lot of space that could be used for a lot of other things e.g. crops or forestry or houses." Others asked "what about the land take (especially with take from wind farms)?" Some worried about "where will they be put, impact on people , land take, visual impact " or about "visual and noise impact."

A number of assembly members felt there were "no multiple benefits (as with forests/peat)" or that the "only benefit with this one…[is] storing carbon" while "other options" had benefits including "biodiversity benefits from forests." Some said "even BECCS" provides "energy you can use."

One assembly member suggested "it's being pushed by big companies. It's a back-up plan for moving away from oil, as profits go down from that. It's a nice tidy way to dump things in the ocean." Another referenced the "example of 'enhanced oil recovery' practices used since the 80s to enable access to further reserves of oil", noting "concerns that this practice could be continued via this technology" and lead to increased emissions.

Practicality, efficiency, readiness and scale

A very large number of assembly members commented on the newness of the technology. Suggestions included that it is:

Some assembly members said simply that it was a "new method." One said it was "vague."

Some assembly members queried "is it scalable ?" or noted that we "can't do it at the moment, at scale." Some said it is "not practical for the short term " or is a "medium term option, but prioritise everything else. Putting all the resources in options we are not sure about is not the best idea."

Some assembly members said they were "sceptical they can get as much carbon as they say they can " or that they thought it would be "limited in terms of [the] amounts of CO2 that can be extracted." Some commented that it is "very inefficient – has this just been pitched to make the other option (BECCS) more efficient? Don't know why it's on the list."

Some assembly members suggested other options are better. Some said it "seems to have a lot of similarities with BECCS. BECCS could be better potentially. But it is hard to tell, still pretty theoretical." Others said they were "not a convert. They have been looking at it for a while. Big investment: will take a long time to build. Could be worth investing, but it is so uncertain: but could be a huge amount of money. The other options are so much easier to reach net zero."

Some assembly members suggested there is "no commercial interest without Government sponsorship or investment" or that "one of the biggest problems with carbon capture was getting people to invest into it which has been the case for the last 20 years. Not sure if priorities on this have changed enough."

Individual assembly members said they "don't see it as a very long term solution", or that it's "very difficult as the main place for capture will be at power stations." One asked "where could these be sited? Would every village need one or would large industrial units need to be built to capture and store?"

Costs, the economy and jobs

A large number of assembly members said it is "very expensive", "expensive ", "high cost" or "likely to have a very high cost." Some assembly members highlighted the "initial cost" or "cost of installation" in particular. Some assembly members disliked the combination of uncertainty and expense:

"High cost – put the money into something [we're] more sure will definitely work."

"More money and doesn't have a guarantee of success."

Others suggested that the "money could be better spent in other areas" or that it "does the same job as a tree but [is] expensive." Some asked "who will pay", "would people be willing to pay", or "who will initially gain and who pay?" Some said it's "expensive – goes on our energy bill." Others felt that "the cost of the energy that needs to be used for it makes it less effective than BECCS and so less viable" or said they were "not sure if [it is] cost effective yet as new technology."

Public support

One assembly member said it "can be done at scale (acknowledged) but [I] still don't trust it." 

Safety and risk

Some assembly members said that "storage of CO2 is not a good idea, worried about it escaping", that they "wouldn't feel confident that the carbon wouldn't escape" or expressed concerns about the "risk of uncontrolled release of CO2 for future generations." Some asked "how safe is the storage?", "how long can it be stored for?" or noted they were "concerned about storing carbon in the earth's crust – what impact will it have?" Others raised concerns about the "safety of carbon transport", or said they "feel hesitant about carbon capture technology in general (this and BECCS)."

Some assembly members expressed "concern about air suction, chemical processes, and mineral extraction – potential issues include safety, cost, jobs, how green." Others listed "concerns about leakage and turning the water acidic", "concern about unknown long-term impacts, e.g. air quality" or said we have "no idea of what the environmental impacts might be."

Other

One assembly member said they felt DACCS was a "waste of time", another that it "feels like the option of last resort. Use it to mop up the last bits of CO2 ." One assembly member said "we've got no information about the costs or about the quantity of CO2 removed."121

Conditions

Some assembly members noted conditions around direct air capture and carbon storage – points they felt would aid its implementation or that should be put in place. They suggested a need to:

Undertake research and development

Some assembly members said that "research and development [are] needed", that we should "look at it, but [it] needs more research" or that they "will go for anything that will work, even if it's a small benefit – but it needs to be tried and tested." Others said they see "value in exploring and investing in it alongside other options", that "everything is new and experimental at some stage" or that "investment must be increased." Similarly some said "maybe with more R&D they will come up with an acceptable solution. They have to start somewhere." Others said they see "potential for further development" or that it's an "option for [the] future but not so much now."

Only use it if it's proven and affordable

Some assembly members said they would support the idea "if the technology is there and proven", that if it's "proven to work and affordable then it's a great idea" or that "if the tech to make it go solid comes in then brilliant."

Manage costs

Some said they would be in favour "if the cost is not too high", while others said "if it doesn't show itself to be viable then we will have to stop spending money on it."

Use it in moderation only, or as a last resort (at least at first)

Some assembly members said it "should only be used in moderation as a way of capturing that last bit of carbon that can't be captured by a combination of natural methods of carbon storage and moves towards generating carbon neutral energy." Others said it should be a "last resort solution – if nothing else works" or "only an interim measure while still using fossil fuels and other technologies are being developed." Some commented that we "should be using natural approaches straight away as we know they will work and use these technologies in the background as over time we will understand them better, they will improve, cost may improve."

Use a mix of options, potentially prioritising natural ones

Some assembly members said "we shouldn't shut down any option – there has to be a place for all options", that we "need a balanced approach to capturing CO2 ; can't rely on just one option" or that it "could be OK, but don't put all eggs in one basket, priority should be natural measures." Other assembly members commented that they "still think natural approaches are best but not sure they can be enough, this and BECCS have so much larger scope in potential BUT we don't know that they definitely work." 

Don't let it distract from better solutions

Some assembly members warned to "[b]e careful that it doesn't detract from other best practice approaches", that "[i]f it is developed, it shouldn't be an excuse to carry on using fossil fuels" or said that "[t]echnology is great, but humans need to start to taking responsibility for our impact on our surroundings."

Individual assembly members made additional comments including:

"Concerned about the carbon cost of setting this up and building the plant."

"Companies should be required to capture the CO2 they are responsible for generating, as long as it's regulated properly. They should be mandated to do this. But, don't want them to see this as a get out of jail free card and not do other things first. Will this mean a carbon trading scheme?"

"If it does work, be sensitive to where they are put and the impact on people."

"Excess power to be used for this when it is available i.e. extra electricity generated by the different technologies (e.g. nuclear now and wind/solar in future) be directed towards CC when not able to be used elsewhere."

"Can we join this with BECCS all in one place?"

"Needs to be beneficial in the long-term."

"Need to be able to trust the scientists; we need to be sure they know what they are doing."

One assembly member said we can't store electricity, but can store synthetic fuel. They said they had called "a company in Canada using this approach" who said it "can be scaled, but is currently expensive."

As seen in Section A, assembly members expressed limited support for direct air capture and carbon storage in their votes.

C. Cross-cutting considerations

After discussing each of the six greenhouse gas removal methods in turn, assembly members had the chance to reflect on the methods overall.

These notes and discussions didn't tend to raise new issues. However they did emphasise the following points as important to significant numbers of assembly members:

A small number of assembly members commented more specifically on combining options involving trees and wood. For example:

"It would be a good idea to combine the tree-based options so it is completely efficient e.g. plant trees and then once they've matured we can cut them down for construction and once we need to take down the building we can use it as bioenergy and use BECCS."

There was also a significant, although slightly lesser, number of comments about the role that BECCS and DACCS could play. For example:

"I like the natural solutions as far as possible. Then for the extra stuff we invest in the additional technologies. All of them will be needed."

"I believe it is important to start with natural solutions which can start now and as technology matures in carbon capture and storage we then take advantage."

"First two solutions – all for it but would like to see investment in the last two." 

"I believe we should adopt a blended approach at this stage and not depend on any specific solutions. When the CCS technology is more developed and cheaper we could employ more of this. Similar for direct air capture. All the approaches will require international co-operation and incentives to remove greenhouse gases."

One assembly member raised an additional point, noting that CO2 can be made into plastics and gravel, as well as synthetic fuels. They suggested that these options are also important for greenhouse gas removals.

Conclusions

Removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere is a complex topic containing many uncertainties, and yet assembly members' conclusions are in many ways clear and striking.

Four greenhouse gas removal methods received significant support: forests and better forest management (99%), restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands, (85%), using wood in construction (82%) and, to a lesser extent, enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil (62%).

These were the options that many assembly members felt were most "natural ." Assembly members also tended to see these options, particularly the first two, as having significant co-benefits. These included advantages around preventing flooding and erosion, increasing biodiversity, access to nature and enjoyment.

Assembly members said they would like the implementation of these methods to be planned and managed well – for example, planting the right trees in the right places, managing forests properly, and minimising risks around the use of wood in construction. They also suggested a need to think about and support farmers, particularly in relation to restoring and managing peatlands and wetlands and enhancing the storage of carbon in the soil. Sustainability, including an aversion to importing trees and wood also came up a number of times. For some assembly members, thinking about the balance of land use was important too.

The more technological or "man-made" options of BECCS and DACCS secured lower rates of approval and higher rates of disapproval. 42% of assembly members 'agreed' or 'strongly agreed' that each of BECCS and DACCS should be part of how the UK gets to net zero, while 36% (BECCS) and 39% (DACCS) 'disagreed' or 'strongly disagreed'.

Many assembly members were worried about the risk of leaks from carbon storage sites. Many too felt that these options failed to address the problem. This was for a variety of reasons, including that they risked "tak[ing] the focus off the amount that we are emitting in the first place" and "kicking the can down the road."

Assembly members also voiced concerns around the methods being less natural, their costs, and the unproven nature of the technology, particularly in relation to DACCS. They noted the amount of energy used by DACCS and suggested this might be counterproductive.

Whilst BECCS and DACCS therefore received limited support, some assembly members were keen that further research and development takes place, noting for example that these technologies could perhaps then be used more in the future or that they might be needed to "mop up" remaining CO2.

In general, there was a feeling amongst assembly members that a combination of greenhouse gas removal methods would be needed.

Covid-19, recovery and the path to net zero

Summary of recommendations

  1. A large majority of assembly members (79%) 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that, 'steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero'. Their rationale included that the government should: limit, or put conditions on, investment in high carbon industries; make the most of the economic opportunities presented by the path to net zero; deal with Covid-19 and climate change together where possible and take advantage of the current opportunities for change.
  2. Another large majority (93%) of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that, 'as lockdown eases, government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero'. Assembly members backed homeworking and changes to how we travel, and again noted that this "tough and sad time" presents an opportunity for change. They also saw a key role for government in providing leadership and information, alongside roles for business and local areas.
  3. Assembly members tended to avoid expressing 'strong' views about whether or not Covid-19 and lockdown had made them think or feel differently about the how the UK should get to net zero .122 Their comments generally reflected the changed context created by Covid-19 rather than requests for alterations to specific recommendations made earlier in the assembly.
  4. Overall assembly members agreed that their thoughts and feelings about the path to net zero in general had changed (62%). They talked about a new sense of opportunity for change, and altered perceptions of what is possible (e.g. what government can do). They also noted lifestyle changes that are already happening. Some highlighted the economic impacts of the pandemic, suggesting for example that they make reaching net zero more difficult.
  5. 73% of the assembly members who had looked at 'how we travel' during assembly weekends two and three said that Covid-19 and lockdown had changed their thoughts and feelings about how to get to net zero in this area. Key themes in their discussions included:
    • Changes happening to air travel, with some assembly members suggesting that people may continue to fly less;
    • Homeworking becoming more acceptable;
    • The impact on public transport, with people currently less willing to use it and questions about whether or not that will last long-term;
    • Increases in cycling and walking, although some questioned whether these would hold during the winter.
  6. Only a minority of assembly members said that their thoughts and feelings had changed about the other topics discussed prior to lockdown.

Covid-19, recovery and the path to net zero

The arrival of Covid-19 in the UK saw an additional item added to the assembly's agenda. At the request of both Parliament and assembly members themselves, space was made for consideration of the changed context for reaching net zero created by the Covid-19 pandemic, and its impacts.

The resulting session took place at the final assembly weekend on 16th May. At the time, strict lockdown measures were in place in all four UK nations.

What did the assembly consider?

Assembly members did not hear detailed evidence on the changed context created by Covid-19. This was partly because of time constraints but also because it was too early in the pandemic for the type of detailed information the assembly had heard on other themes to be available. Instead the assembly heard one presentation from the Expert Leads123 that provided a series of think points for the assembly to discuss.

The assembly then considered three questions:

  1. Whether or not steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero;
  2. As lockdown eases, whether or not government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero;
  3. Whether or not Covid-19 and the lockdown had made them think or feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero. The assembly looked at this last question both in general terms, and in relation to the themes on which they had reached decisions prior to lockdown – 'how we travel', 'in the home', 'what we eat and how we use the land', and 'what we buy'.124 After their discussions, they voted by secret ballot.

Assembly members' views on these questions are significant. There is no other group that is at once representative of the UK population, and well-acquainted with the sorts of measures required to reach net zero.

The assembly's interim briefing and what this chapter includes

On 23rd June 2020 Climate Assembly UK released an interim briefing covering some of its recommendations on Covid-19, recovery and the path to net zero in advance of Government announcements on these issues. These recommendations contributed to the Committee on Climate Change's (CCC) Annual Progress Report to Parliament later the same month.125 The report presented the CCC's advice to Parliament and Government about how the economic recovery from the pandemic can be made compatible with net zero.

Part A of this chapter reproduces this interim briefing, which covered the assembly's views on steps that should or should not be taken around the recovery from Covid-19.

Part B moves on to look at whether or not Covid-19 and the lockdown have made assembly members think or feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero.

Both sections start with the relevant vote results. They then move on to look at the reasons assembly members' gave for their views.

A. The recovery

Assembly members discussed two questions linked to the recovery from Covid-19:

After their discussions, they voted by secret ballot.

A.1 Vote results

Assembly members took part in two different votes.

"Steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero" (%)

42% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

12% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Figure 1: "Steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero" (%)

A large majority of assembly members (79%) 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 'steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero'; 9% 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed'; 12% chose 'don't know / unsure'.

A large majority (93%) also 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 'as lockdown eases, government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero (see the graph on the next page); 4% 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed'.

A.2 Rationale

Assembly members' discussions prior to the vote shed light on the rationale behind their decisions, as do comments from their ballot papers. The results of the votes (above) show their final decisions.

A.2.1 Steps to help the economy recover

Assembly members started by discussing 'whether or not steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero.' We have grouped their comments under seven headings, for ease of navigation.

Limiting or putting conditions on investment in high carbon industries

The idea most frequently mentioned by assembly members was limits to, or conditions on, investment in high carbon industries. Views included:

"Any money spent bailing out dying fossil fuel industries (the aviation industry, north sea oil) is money wasted on industries that won't survive anyway."

"I don't think oil or gas companies should be given bailouts, you're wanting to stop them anyway, so why support them – support the people who work for them but not the companies – that's because they aren't compatible with net zero."

"Shouldn't actively fund the worst offenders."

"Yes opportunity to apply some pressure to industry and incentives must not prop up old systems."

"[Provide an] incentive to manufacturers to go into green products, minimal support if not green."

"Net zero should be one of the things that the Government is looking at for the economic recovery, alongside other things. For example, when negotiating bail outs or investment, ask for companies' carbon footprint or put in place net zero requirements."

"Depends on what big industries survive this – they're going to ask for a lot of money. Government shouldn't give it too easily. Should have conditions which are green related along with any bailout. Air France agreed to climate change regulation – that's a good way to do it. One condition would be to get industry to invest in particular technology."

"It would be too easy to just carry on as before and to take advantage of cheap oil and other special offers e.g. cheap travel, cheap clothes, factories churning out cheap goods to 'get the economy going'. We need incentives to reduce emissions, to improve [the] quality and longevity of products. We need penalties for people who do not consider the environment when building or rebuilding businesses."

"Assist companies who provide climate enhancing services and not climate harming services."

Some assembly members disagreed with the above or added caveats. For example:

"Where strings can be attached, do. But…support the economy in areas which lose jobs, like should have happened with the coal mines."

"Retraining is important."

"Some worry about highly trained people … aviation: how are they going to find jobs."

"You may have to bail out some industries that are less green in the short term, so that you can invest in greener areas in the longer term."

"It [helping to get to net zero] should be a factor but not the be all and end all. To rule something out just because it doesn't help net zero is too extreme – e.g. letting airlines go to the wall."

"All industries have a right to succeed and people have a right to be employed."

"Bailouts may be a necessary evil otherwise the economy will fail. We need to support what we have in order to survive."

"Some fossil fuel sectors bring in a lot of money so it's hard not to support them."

"Bail outs are helpful for small business."

"Concern about knock-on effects on supply chains – airports etc."

Some assembly members made different but related points, for example:

"Avoiding lock in of fossil fuel use [is] key – best chance to do this is now to avoid going back into the trap of fossil fuels again. That would be disappointing."

"Because oil is cheap – put a tax on oil."

Rethinking and investing in infrastructure

One of the most frequently made points related to rethinking and investing in infrastructure. Some comments here were general, for example:

"This is an opportunity to rethink infrastructure practically and in a net zero friendly [way]."

"Government must steer in the right direction, with the right objectives – after emergency, focus is on infrastructure. So this is a prime time for Government action, and for the right investment in the right places."

Others noted more specific ideas – for example, around building insulation, offshore wind, e-vehicles and related infrastructure, broadband, cycling, solar for new builds, safer public transport (e.g. "taxis that have screens and hygiene security'), batteries for energy storage and online libraries to facilitate home study. A small number of assembly members mentioned types of infrastructure where they would not want to see investment – for example "less road building", "no new airport runways."

Supporting low carbon industries

Some assembly members said they would like to see investment in low carbon industries. Overlapping with the points made about infrastructure, assembly members mentioned sectors including the renewables industries (e.g. "Government should bring back incentives for renewables"), "development and deployment" of electric vehicles (e.g. "make them cheaper but allow people choice"), and heat pumps. Other related points included:

"If people [members of the public] are shorter of money they're not going to be able to do that [invest in steps that help get to net zero]. Interest free loans? Costs coming down?"

"Feels [like] government should bail out companies with green plans, and in turn their taxes will fund the government."

Reaching net zero is an economic opportunity

Some assembly members suggested that there are economic opportunities on the path to net zero. Views included:

"It's not an either-or matter [economy – climate change] can spend on technologies like wind turbines, for example, that provide jobs and help the economy to recover."

"Investing public money – everything we do in terms of net zero has got to be approached from an economic point of view i.e. it needs also to help bring money into the country as much as help to reach the net zero target – and this is possible in spending on projects such as renewable technologies and being able to 'export' the knowledge and technology to others."

"It's an opportunity to encourage new businesses, kick start with renewable energy businesses to get to net zero."

"Use this to our benefit – mix together economic recovery and achieving net zero to get what we need."

"Yes – it's a perfect opportunity, create new work for job losses, new skills for example in turbine installing and manufacturing and make them in this country."

"Any investment in things like wind turbines not only help us get to our net zero target, but it creates jobs and spends the money in the UK which gets money flowing in the economy and helps us both create jobs and increase demand side spending. This is a win/win situation."

"We need a green industrial revolution."

Tackling Covid-19 and climate change together

On a similar theme to the last heading, some assembly members said they didn't feel a choice needed to be made between dealing with the current situation and meeting climate targets. Comments included:

"Feels that climate change is as big a crisis as Covid-19, e.g. wild fires across the world, famine, air pollution. Don't want the government to put climate change on the back burner because of Covid-19."

"With planning and a bit of structure we can tackle both climate and Covid-19. We shouldn't go back to where we were before."

"Yes, we should integrate our recovery with green steps, because it's do-able."

"Well it seems pretty silly to try [to] save the economy whilst shirking from problem solvers [albeit]…because of the costs. I understand we need to hopefully tackle this economic crisis, but it would make sense to incorporate both issues into one as we have made an agreement to hit net zero as that is beneficial for the future. I don't want to be known as a coward when faced with these issues, and bury my head in the sand. It just doesn't make the issues change or go away."

Others emphasised the continued importance of the net zero target, saying for example:

"I am very concerned that the Covid-19 pandemic will push the net zero target further down the agenda of public policy and this should not be allowed to happen. Net zero should be at the forefront of the policy priorities going forward and should be woven in to each aspect of the recovery. The benefits of doing this (and the risks of not doing this) should be emphasised to the public at every opportunity so that individuals and employers … also make the best decisions when returning to 'normal' life."

Taking the opportunity for change

Some assembly members felt that the current economic challenges presented an opportunity to do things differently. Rationales included:

"It's the way back – economy has to restart, government has an opportunity where people are waiting to get back to normal. There's not [an] other better time."

"Biggest investments were made after the war (i.e. another time when economic recovery was needed) – fundamentally changed things e.g. education, health, housing. Massive investment but it was needed to push us in the right direction."

"The Government is being forced to think up the best way forward so [it] can incorporate new ways of thinking."

"The public is learning how to deal with change and we should take advantage of this developing attitude to introduce and enact the substantial changes that will be required."

"It's a good opportunity to try to change attitudes."

"There is a current public consciousness to climate change and people will be more accepting of change after an event which had such a devastating effect on the global economy and society."

Caveats, uncertainty and disagreement

Assembly members who chose 'unsure / don't know' in the vote, made the following points on their ballot papers:

"The government needs to get the economy back up and running. Climate change should not be put on back burner until [the] economy picks up. It should be addressed and preferably integrated into our recovery"

"In an ideal world yes. I am sure they will have to help business get back on their feet first."

"The country has to be successful for its citizens to thrive so this has to be balanced."

"This really depends on how long the current situation lasts and the state of the global economy when things improve."

Assembly members who 'disagreed' or 'strongly disagreed' that 'steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero' made the following points on their ballot papers:

"Again, this will not happen as there is going to be a catastrophic depression that will change matters."

"This will only hinder the recovery."

"I do not think that [the] steps government takes to help the economy recover should be specifically designed to help achieve net zero. If support is needed and it does not meet the requirement of achieving net zero that should not mean it is disregarded. Many more factors should be considered when this decision is made."

"I think coronavirus is a real crisis, and the steps taken to deal with it have been severe. I am not convinced that the climate 'crisis' is in comparison a real crisis, and I think it is in many ways a confected crisis. I do not think the science is 'settled' with regards to the impacts of man, and our increasing CO2 emissions on the global climate, although I do believe we each have a personal responsibility to live our lives as sustainably as possible. In this regard, I do believe the government can play a role, and positively encourage us to take personal responsibility to live our lives more sustainably. In addition, I think we have to be realistic on what as a nation we can achieve. As far as the UK is concerned, we only contribute around 1% of global CO2 emissions, so the priority should probably be on rebuilding our economy post coronavirus, as opposed to inflecting greater economic self harm through expensive green initiatives, that will have negligible benefit."

Five assembly members who 'agreed' that steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero noted caveats on their ballot papers too. These assembly members said:

"Balancing action – there will be a need to formulate a path that will aid the economic recovery."

"Agree, but possible to over-do it. A balance needs to be kept."

"…but not in any way that risks the recovery."

"Obviously there should be a focus on balancing the budget and reducing the deficit first. Keeping interest rates low to not crowd out private industry and to try and restore jobs lost. The government should initially encourage a market-led approach in this time with changes to regulation and after recovery focus on government led infrastructure projects."

"If the opportunity arises to help the economy recover and also to achieve net zero, then the government should take it. However as the country is likely to be in a difficult financial position, it should think carefully before investing in anything and ensure the results will be beneficial."

Some assembly members also raised caveats during discussions. For example:

"We're not a nanny state, government shouldn't tell us what to do. But incentive should be there, just not dictating."

"Personal responsibility is key."

"Feels economy will get much worse before it gets better. There's so much uncertainty around Covid-19 and still need to wait and see."

"Not keen on big schemes right now as they may not be used a lot after this is over."

A.2.2 Steps to encourage lifestyles to change

Assembly members discussed what should happen as lockdown eases. Specifically they considered whether or not 'government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero'. We have grouped their comments under six headings, for ease of navigation.

Encouraging homeworking

Homeworking was one of the most commonly mentioned themes. Assembly members' views included:

"Homeworking is brilliant – less traffic, less flights, quicker – government has to encourage it somehow either with incentives or penalties."

"As employers have adapted by helping workers to work from home where possible I feel this should be encouraged."

"For people who can work from home, and have been able to demonstrate that they can still be productive, companies will be more willing to allow this to continue, and this will reduce the volume of traffic / emissions on our roads. The government could send encouraging messages in this regard."

"I think especially for businesses they can encourage lifestyle changes through working from home and therefore less commuting. This would help with a reduction in driving and surface transport. It may also mean office spaces can be smaller and therefore businesses will be less polluting in the resources they use."

"Companies could have smaller offices, smaller heating, air conditioning and energy bills. They could use these savings to give extra benefits and incentives to their employees to help insulate and heat their homes and pay for the changes that may be needed to reach net zero. This could be a tax free Government backed initiative."

"I don't think it should be forced. No one should tell people what to do, or never to go back to work, but I think people should have the options to work from home and travel less."

"The lockdown has proven that in the modern world work doesn't have to fit such a robust schedule, particularly in white collar jobs. It is very very possible to continue a remote working world to permanently ease congestion and improve life quality."

"Homeworking should be encouraged: saves time, less commuting; businesses having seen it is possible; it won't be hard for people to adapt to; I'll be able to get a dog!"

Encouraging changes to how we travel

Assembly members also frequently mentioned changes to how we travel, particularly in relation to: (1) encouraging and incentivising cycling, making it safer and providing proper infrastructure; (2) a reduced need for business travel, particularly flying. Assembly members' views included:

"People should be encouraged to continue walking, running or cycling every day, and this hopefully would cut down on the use of cars for short journeys."

"This will require the government and employers to work together to ensure that everyone can go about their lives safely. This will mean massive investments in bicycle networks and walkable city streets. This will allow people to move safely, as well as lead to a healthier population and workforce who will be better able to fight the virus."

"Cycle to Work scheme is for health and the environment. Yes, the government should do things. There's a mandate to do so. They can't use [the idea that we won't listen] as an excuse now, people do listen, especially if the incentives are good."

"…government should encourage businesses to consider remote video calls/working rather than regular domestic / international business flights, which they'll probably begin to do anyway as in the future it may not make financial sense to fly in the way they have been doing before (less airlines operating means less choice, means potentially higher costs)…"

"I think that an employer or the government might look at video conferencing rather than flying or staying overnight in a hotel as a cheaper option which might also help climate change. This should be encouraged if it will also help in reaching net zero."

"It would be a missed opportunity for the government, employers and individuals [to] not take advantage of our aim to achieve net zero as lockdown eases. Everyone has had to adapt to a different lifestyle and certain elements of the lockdown – travelling by land and air – should see a permanent reduction if we change our working practices and how often we really need to take flights."

Taking the opportunity for change

Assembly members recognised that Covid-19 has created a "tough and sad time" and several have been severely personally affected. They did however also note an "opportunity" for change in both lifestyles and how the economy works. Assembly members who voted 'strongly agree' made this type of comment frequently:

"There is a great opportunity to restart the economy on a greener pathway and such chances should be seized upon."

"Because there is going to have to be big changes for the economy to recover and if we can tie net zero aims into everything that happens on this then it is a great opportunity"

"A huge mind-set change has occurred. This is an ideal opportunity to incorporate the assumption that any changes implemented should be compatible with n[et] zero."

"Change has already begun which is a first step and can be built on."

"Now is the time when people are ready to adapt. It's harder to get people to adapt when they are stuck in their ways."

"People have seen how it is not that difficult to make simple changes like work from home more often so this is the best opportunity to introduce changes that will help us reach net zero."

"We have momentum, there is an opportunity to change things for the better during this time of adjustment and flux. This is a window that we must use before people become weary of more change and exhausted by further upheaval."

"It's important that we utilize this period of transition and inactivity in certain sectors to reinvent the way our country functions in order to make it more environmentally friendly."

Some assembly members also described the current situation as a "huge wakeup call." Related comments included:

"Covid-19 has been a salutary warning that homo sapiens are not in total control of the environment and are not omniscient."

"Think it [net zero] should be at the centre of government policy. It's about flexibility – you need to be prepared for things that are looming. We should start early and make the most of the momentum."

Others said "it's the only way to achieve net zero", "it's better for everyone if we embrace it", or asked "why on earth wouldn't they."

Providing leadership and information

Many assembly members also made suggestions about roles. In terms of the Government's role, comments included:

"Has to be an onus to do this – some businesses will change, but many will be focused on the bottom line. Has to come from the Government, plus people power / public support. A quiet revolution."

"Government needs to shape the narrative."

"Government are going to have the largest impact on people's lifestyle, so they need to take the lead. And they are the ones who can invest in new ways of doing things to stimulate demand for it."

"The government needs to start somewhere – a mix of government and private investment beyond us just all doing our bit."

"This is an opportunity to get people to change, and it is important for government to lead that change."

"That's why we have government! We expect them to guide us. I hope they'll learn from the pandemic."

Some assembly members also made comments about information provision, for example:

"Government could communicate with every household the way they've done with coronavirus."

"Government should inform all households of ways to change lifestyles to aid [the] environment."

"The coronavirus crisis has shown that the public will respond to changes if they have sound, clear and trustworthy information and explanation as provided by our scientific advisers throughout the epidemic."

"Employers can reduce overheads by people working from home (and meeting from home instead of flying round the world), and the government should build on people's experience of being advised by regularly promoting this message."

Assembly members also talked about the role of businesses. Some suggested changes that businesses could make, for example "provid[ing] incentives to work from home" or "provid[ing] showers/changing rooms so people can cycle to work and tidy themselves up afterwards." Others suggested that change was in businesses' interests because they "will want to reduce overheads" or because they "already value their environmental reputation." Some felt that change is already underway:

"Experience is that all talk between [the] business and [the] trade union is about how [they are] going to do things differently around this."

Others said there "is no reason not to when they have been able to manage so far e.g. less business travel, more homeworking" or that "even if 30% of businesses make a change, it could make a difference." Some suggested that there is a need for government to incentivise change or an "opportunity for government to advertise to business [the] benefits of being greener e.g. reducing travel."

Some assembly members said that we "need to concentrate on local change, as well as national" or that "Government should [take steps to encourage lifestyle change], and local authorities too. People did take notice [during the lockdown] so they do have influence and people will listen [to them]."

Points made less frequently

Points made by smaller numbers of assembly members included the following.

Encouraging healthier lifestyles

Some assembly members felt that steps should be taken to encourage healthier lifestyles, with some noting that conditions like diabetes and obesity put people more at risk from Covid-19. These comments tended to focus either on transport – for example "encourage walking / cycling which is good for the public health where it is possible to do so" – or diets:

"Now is a really good chance to tie-in the way we eat with net zero, obesity etc, prevalence of take-aways, how badly we eat in this country, how much we waste."

Supporting individual choice and differing needs

Some assembly members talked about the importance of allowing individual choice and catering for different needs. Comments included:

"Leading by example but the reality is that it's in an individual's choice – to follow or not – giving the opportunity to help individuals to make the right choice by providing all the information / resources to make those choices."

"How changes are introduced is key and need to find a balanced approach that recognises the needs of different people – cannot be one size fits all."

"Feel like there'll be two halves – those who are able to make these changes to how they work (conference calling etc and this will also open up job opportunities for those who otherwise would not be able to – physical limitations) and then there are those whose lives are linked to social interaction e.g. a yoga teacher who needs to interact with their participants, or teachers in schools – hard to socially distance in these settings. Or for those for whom social interaction is important for their mental health and wellbeing. These sorts of circumstances will have a bearing on how people change or not. Needs an awful lot of thought to what is possible or not possible and both have to be solved mutually – one cannot be to the detriment of the other."

"These should only be suggestions, and incentives to encourage a lower carbon footprint."

One assembly member said that change should be "encouraged yes, forced no."

Providing incentives

Some assembly members said there should "100%...be incentives/penalties – people won't do things just by themselves. If everyone is doing it then people will do it – if it's clear for people to follow." Similar comments included:

"Need incentives to encourage people to do the right things – what's in it for them?"

"But will have 'to bribe people' e.g. enhanced bike to work schemes and make it really obvious and easy."

"Many people want to change but will be carried along by others who do not understand or who are not aware of the impending problems."

Promoting green industry and jobs

Some assembly members suggested this is a "great opportunity to push green industries, new industries – focus on these in the future and not go back to dying industries. And for those who have lost jobs provide the means to re-train and gain jobs in these areas." Others mentioned specific industries that they would like to see supported, or suggested that "if businesses [are] not green then government should not help them but find other ways for people to be employed."

Disagreement, uncertainty and caveats

A small number of assembly members disagreed or strongly disagreed that 'government, employers and others should take steps as lockdown eases to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero.' These assembly members said we need to "make plans for long term changes", that "we have come out of "Total Lock-Down' too soon" or that it "will not be foremost in their [government, employers] expectations." Some assembly members also felt strongly that it was too early to be discussing what should happen next at this stage of the pandemic.

Assembly members who voted "don't know / unsure" said:

"At the moment the focus will be on tackling the virus and finding a vaccine. As we regain control though, the government should assess and plan what changes need to take place."

"It is very difficult to say if governments, employers or others should change as it depends on how they were acting before and governments and employers don't necessarily have the same opportunities to make changes."

"This really depends on how long the current situation lasts and the state of the global economy when things improve."

Assembly members who agreed that government, employers and others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change also had some caveats. Individual assembly members said they "agree, but possible to over-do it. A balance needs to be kept" or "only where it makes economic sense. The economy must take priority over the global CO2 agenda." Other individuals said it "should not affect reductions in people's incomes" or that we need to "be careful how we do it because the economy is in rough shape. Unemployment needs addressing in the short term."

Figure 2: "As lockdown eases, government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero" (%)

54% Strongly Agree

39% Agree

3% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Figure 2: "As lockdown eases, government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero" (%)

Conclusions – the recovery

A large majority of assembly members (79%) 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that 'steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero'. When giving their rationale, assembly members most frequently recommended that the government:

Assembly members who were unsure or who disagreed with the statement tended to emphasise a need to focus on economic recovery first and foremost.

Another large majority (93%) of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that, 'as lockdown eases, government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero'. Assembly members' rationale included:

B. Impact on the assembly's thinking

In the second half of their discussions, assembly members considered whether or not Covid-19 and the lockdown had made them think or feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero, and why. Assembly members discussed this question:

After their discussions, they voted by secret ballot.

B.1 Vote results

Assembly members took part in four different votes.127

Thinking about how to get to net zero in general, how much do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The experience of coronavirus and the lockdown has made me think / feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero" (%)

12% Strongly Agree

44% Agree

17% Don’t mind or unsure

20% Disagree

8% Strongly disagree

Figure 3: Thinking about how to get to net zero in general, how much do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The experience of coronavirus and the lockdown has made me think / feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero" (%)

Thinking about how we travel, how much do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The experience of coronavirus and the lockdown has made me think / feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero" (%)

30% Strongly Agree

43% Agree

8% Don’t mind or unsure

14% Disagree

5% Strongly disagree

Figure 4: Thinking about how we travel, how much do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The experience of coronavirus and the lockdown has made me think / feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero" (%)

Thinking about heat and energy use in the home, how much do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The experience of coronavirus and the lockdown has made me think / feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero" (%)

6% Strongly Agree

29% Agree

26% Don’t mind or unsure

29% Disagree

10% Strongly disagree

Figure 5: Thinking about heat and energy use in the home, how much do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The experience of coronavirus and the lockdown has made me think / feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero" (%)

Thinking about food, farming and land use, and what we buy, how much do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The experience of coronavirus and the lockdown has made me think / feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero" (%)

3% Strongly Agree

33% Agree

37% Don’t mind or unsure

23% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Figure 6: Thinking about food, farming and land use, and what we buy, how much do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "The experience of coronavirus and the lockdown has made me think / feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero" (%)

Assembly members tended to agree that Covid-19 and the lockdown had made them think or feel differently about the how the UK should get to net zero in general : 62% 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this was the case; 28% 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed'; the rest choose 'don't mind / unsure'.

However the impact on assembly members' thoughts and feelings varied by topic. The biggest impact was on views about 'how we travel':

For the other topics, a minority of assembly members said their thoughts and feelings had changed. Assembly members' views on heat and energy use 'in the home' were the least affected:

For assembly members looking at 'what we eat and how we use the land' and 'what we buy' :

Across all the votes, assembly members tended to avoid expressing 'strong' views, choosing 'agree' or 'disagree' rather than 'strongly agree' or 'strongly disagree'. This may reflect the uncertainties and emerging nature of the current situation.

B.2 Rationale

Assembly members' discussions prior to the vote shed light on the rationale behind their decisons, as do comments from their ballot papers. The results of the votes (reported above) show assembly members' final decisions.

B.2.1 In general

Assembly members began by discussing ways in which their thoughts and feelings about how to get to net zero in general had or hadn't changed, and why.

Ways in which thoughts and feelings had changed, and why

We have divided assembly members' comments into ten overlapping categories to make them easier to navigate.

A wake-up call

Some assembly members said that Covid-19 "has been a bit of a wake-up call – we'd got complacent that bad things don't happen." Thoughts included:

An opportunity for change

Some assembly members talked about a sense of opportunity. Some assembly members made general observations saying "it's a great opportunity to grasp the nettle" or "it's an opportunity to shift." Comments included:

Others said that "significant change seems more likely" or that "totally unexpected things can happen."

What government can do

Some assembly members reported changed views about what government can do:

People's willingness to change

Some assembly members suggested that "people have more willingness to change now" or said they had had been surprised by people's willingness to change. Views included:

Lifestyle changes that have already happened

Some assembly members talked about lifestyle changes that have already happened, and suggested that they had altered their thoughts or feelings. Some focussed on health or mental health :

One assembly member said "if this is how my lifestyle needs to change, then I don't want it."

For a fuller discussion of assembly members' thoughts on these issues, please see:

Commuting and homeworking

The most frequently mentioned way in which assembly members said their views had changed related to the shift from commuting to homeworking :

Some added that "there is a psychological impact currently, but take away the pandemic and working from home will be a positive change." Others said "companies will be able to save money on rental costs and energy bills" or that "Government should continue to push the message regarding working from home."

For a fuller discussion of assembly members' thoughts on these issues, please see Section B.2.2 on 'how we travel'.

How we travel

In addition to comments on homeworking, some assembly members talked about other aspects of how we travel and changes to their thoughts or feelings. Comments about aviation included:

One assembly member who farms and owns holiday cottages noted that "bookings have gone through the roof – people holidaying in the UK, in the countryside in much greater numbers than in previous years." Others said that the "aviation industry will take years to recover, and people may end up holidaying in the UK."

On cars, some assembly members talked about the "impact of low petrol prices because the government won't want to increase taxes and people feel that the car is safer." Others said they were "worried that the government is telling us to use our cars" or said "it is important to reflect on the changes e.g car usage has come right down, which is great. We don't travel as much, but concerned about the next few months, especially when the weather turns bad, which will push people back into their cars." Some noted "reduced congestion" or said we should "aim to maintain the reduction in travel."

On walking and cycling, some assembly members talked about an "increase in cycling", "pedestrianisation of town / city centres" or a "heightened belief amongst people that there are alternatives – e.g. cycles, scooters, cycle lanes." Some cautioned that "in any alternatives, be aware of sectors of society that might be disadvantaged by that uplift (e.g. visually impaired people and electric scooters)."

Some assembly members said that they "now feel more strongly that we should invest in low CO2 public transport ", or that "more can be done now about travel – trains and changing how city centres are used." Others were more cautious, saying "I'm still keen on public transport, but re-evaluating now (worried about catching the virus)" or that the "pictures of London's buses are shocking – I'm worried about it spreading so will jump in a car."

For a fuller discussion of assembly members' thoughts on these issues, please see Section B.2.2 on 'how we travel'.

New economic priorities and challenges

Some assembly members said that the economic implications of Covid-19 present new challenges on the path to net zero:

Others suggested that "perhaps we need to focus on net zero options that are cheap in the short term and bring money back short term – e.g. direct air capture and storage [are] probably less feasible now." Some expressed "increased concerns about the finances and the finances of ideas that need more [money] – have we spent it all?"

Opportunities for a green recovery

Some assembly members suggested that the current situation presents a "chance to stimulate the economy through a green revolution ":

Others said "we need to invest in UK capacity, skills and industry – we rely too much on China at present." Some felt "we need to be more creative to make it [reaching net zero] possible even if it might be slower and more difficult."

Areas mentioned less frequently

Smaller numbers of assembly members made a number of additional points.

Concerns about discussing the implications of Covid-19

Three assembly members expressed concerns about discussing the implications of Covid-19 for reaching net zero:

One of the three assembly members chose not to participate throughout the remainder of the discussions reported in this chapter.

Some assembly members noted ways in which the experience of Covid-19 and lockdown had not made them think or feel differently about how to get to net zero.

Ways in which thoughts and feelings hadn't changed, and why

General comments

Some assembly members made general comments, noting for example that it "hasn't really shifted [my] views", or that we are "happy with the decisions we came up with." Others noted that it "hasn't changed the requirement to reach net zero … the goal is still the same" or that we "need to make changes, but [we] needed to make these anyway, e.g. travel."

Reinforcing existing views

Some assembly members said that the crisis had emphasised the importance of views they already held, or provided evidence for them. Comments included:

Some assembly members gave specific examples of views that had stayed the same. These included that "we still need to insulate and heat our homes better" and "views on wind farms." Several talked about their unchanged view that achieving net zero will be difficult. Some said that "hitting net zero was ambitious to start with", or that "even though emissions have dropped, it is still not enough." Others said that they "agree that things aren't going to go back to how they were, but don't feel any more positively about reaching net zero – question [of] if government will prioritise it, especially in a recession." Some said that "politicians lack imagination – likely to go back to how things were" or that "climate deniers [are] still likely to ignore the evidence." Some suggested that "public debt could be used as an excuse for inaction."

Others said their views hadn't changed but that they had noted changes around them. For example, one assembly member commented that "you can see the change in the air and I like the wildlife coming out". Another said my "view [has] not changed – [but we] have made good steps towards lifestyle change." Conversely some assembly members said their views had remained the same because these changes won't stick:

Some assembly members suggested it was too soon to consider whether the current situation had made them think or feel differently. Some said "it's too soon to ask this question – ask again in six month's time. There's still so much which is uncertain. Depends on how it goes." Others noted that "the economic impacts have yet to pan out" or that it's "very early days, not sure what's going to happen. Let's wait and see."

B.2.2 How we travel

Assembly members who had examined 'how we travel' during weekends two and three of the assembly next moved on to discuss the impact of Covid-19 and lockdown on their thoughts and feelings about this topic in particular. 73% said that their thoughts and feelings about how to get to net zero in terms of 'how we travel' had changed.

Ways in which thoughts and feelings had changed, and why

Impacts on air travel

Some assembly members said that "there is definitely going to be a reduction in air travel over a decade", that "people will be scared to travel by air", or that "we don't know what will happen. My instinct says that people will travel differently. There will be an enduring reluctance for people to travel on airlines." Some said "people aren't going to want to fly until there is a vaccine. This is good because there will be less emissions."

Others questioned "assuming this lasts for 18 months then is the airline industry going to recover? Budget market will disappear, because of the testing needed and people needing to be packed in. Even if the government says that it's safe, will people want to do recreational travel?"

Some predicted that "airlines will suffer and we will holiday less", asking "will airlines hike prices and expect we will just travel less frequently?" Some commented that "the cost of air fares is certain to go up. The cutthroat market is gone. A lot of volatility in the flight prices", or said a "lot of airlines are now in difficulty – are they going bust? There will be less airlines." One assembly member said "my parents [are] looking to travel to Hong Kong for August – they are being told they have to have 2m distance so most seats will be empty. How will airlines make money from less people? It is still really risky. No one will want to travel too soon." Some suggested that "there will be fewer planes but a bit resentful of that (when seeing planes for cargo) – but see there will be an impact on passenger confidence to fly."

One assembly member said "I am [now] more inclined to favour reduced travel by air…." Another commented:

Homeworking

Some assembly members felt that "Zoom may change the way people work", or reported that they were "finding working from home is doable – and there are other benefits such as spending time with kids." Others suggested there would be "less requirement for travel, Government should encourage home working even once a vaccine has been found." One said that "for many job sectors we now know we don't need to constantly move around to get work done, to go to meetings or even to catch up with friends." Others commented:

Broadband access

Some assembly members said that "there is a lack of investment in broadband by the Government, they need to provide better infrastructure and broadband. People have to have the choice [to work from home]." Others questioned how much lack of broadband access is an issue or said they choose not to have it.

Impacts on public transport

Some assembly members suggested that "we are going to struggle with public transport and more so with social distancing", that "it will have a detrimental impact on public transport usage" or that "people will not want to use public transport as much; people will want to drive; bus companies will go bankrupt because they won't be used as much." Some noted that "its going to be difficult to encourage more public transport but social distancing on public transport is not going to be profitable." Others said:

Some suggested that "that feeling may well continue into the future – even when the virus is under control" or noted "same for trains. We never thought about it beforehand – but now we are sceptical."

Some felt there would be "less requirement to invest in public transport because of decreased use", while others had the opposite view saying "they will have to put on more buses to allow for social distancing." Some assembly members felt that impacts on public transport "will not be a permanent issue, once a vaccine has been found." One assembly member commented that "people mentioned the issues with traveling on public transport in an epidemic, but we must think sensibly... This [Covid-19] will not be more of a threat than climate change seems to be."

Walking and cycling

Some assembly members said that "people won't want to use public transport, so [the UK] will need to invest in electric cars and cycle and walking infrastructure." Some commented that "the [government's] 2 billion investment in cycling infrastructure will help" or suggested that "public spaces have now been adapted to encourage the public to change habits and consider walking/cycling more." One assembly member said that "I can envisage a lot more people cycling. People seem to be happier taking bikes out and walking. [There is] [t]alk of new infrastructure to accommodate cycling." Some expressed greater interest in electric bikes, with one assembly member commenting "I'd be more interested in [an] electric bike than sitting on a bus."

Some assembly members had a different view, suggesting that "measures such as widening public spaces are all well for good weather, but generally and more so in winter months [the] elderly / vulnerable are not going to use this, they'll need to use their cars or public transport – which need to be readily available and operated in a carbon neutral way – otherwise we'll be going back to existing ways and habits."

Progress on electrification

Continuing the above discussion, some assembly members expressed support for electric cars:

Some assembly members commented "electric buses in city centres – why not do [it] now." Some expressed an alternative view, saying "progress for electrification – electric car cost – maybe that won't get pushed forwards now."

Government ability to make change

Some assembly members said it shows that "prioritising what happens [is] in the gift of government", that "this pandemic has shown how Government CAN do something if it really wants to" or that "it has shown what we can do when forced to change … the government has leverage and we can achieve things for the greater good [especially] … when [we] work together." Others had a different perspective saying "it's not going to be as achievable, because of the impact on the economy. The Government will feel they can't shift their focus. This worries me. We are already behind other countries."

Scale of impact

Some assembly members said "it is going to have a mega impact" or that "life will change a lot because of the virus." One commented that "cleaner air and louder birdsong has had a profound effect on some of us."

Others felt that "this experience is going to change people's psyche towards travel" or asked "how will people act if they continue to hear that people are dying?"

Some assembly members disagreed saying "we'll get over it once there is a vaccine."

Speed of change

One assembly member said that "we can change even quicker than I originally thought possible." Another commented that "the opportunity to change and to see change quicker shouldn't be wasted by going back to how things were before Covid-19."

Other

Other comments included:

Ways in which thoughts and feelings hadn't changed, and why

Views that had stayed the same

Some assembly members noted views that had stayed the same despite Covid-19 and the lock down:

Views not changed, but greater urgency

Some assembly members said they "…just feel it's more urgent to do it now – e.g. car charging points across the country – this is a massive job and will offer job creation." Others commented that "there is an opportunity and urgency to this and to take the lessons from the experience around Covid-19 and apply it to approaches to get to net zero."

Things will return to normal soon

One assembly member said "I think it will return to normal soon." Another commented:

Additional comments

One assembly member commented that "coronavirus has given us more time to think about things and appreciate what we can't have right now like freedom." Another commented:

"Using online conferencing (Zoom etc) increases the digital divide. […] Ease of use for most people, less travel (environmental costs reduced), save time (travel etc). But negative points are difficulties with global time differences, national holiday dates. [It also] [i]ncreases the gap with digital literacy and [the] economic divide (both between people, and countries)."

Some assembly members looking at 'in the home', 'what we buy' and 'what we eat and how we use the land' also made comments about how we travel:

B.2.3 In the home

Assembly members who had examined heat and energy use in the home during weekends two and three of the assembly discussed the impact of Covid-19 and lockdown on their thoughts and feelings about the path to net zero for this topic. As reported in Section B.1 above, 35% said that their thoughts and feelings had changed; 39% said they hadn't and 26% didn't know or were unsure.

Ways in which thoughts and feelings had changed, and why

Greater awareness

Some assembly members suggested that the more people are at home, "the more people might feel the incentive to change electricity supply e.g. solar panels, or fitting insulation." Others agreed, saying "if you're in the home permanently [you] would be more aware of what energy you're using in the home" or that you "would think a lot more about it." Some said that "insulation and retrofitting is more in focus, as people have worked from home now and will see the usefulness of it more. For new build homes too." One assembly member commented that "spending more time in the home has made me think about how much energy I need to use due to poor insulation. With more people at home remote working it is important to make sure that we have innovative ways to reduce emissions and I'm now more interested in heat pumps as they are less disruptive in this time."

Implications around energy use and costs

Some assembly members said we are "using more electricity than [we] normally do", that "if we stay at home our homes are using more electricity especially if you have kids at home all the time", or that we are "using more energy in the home – spending more too." Some noted "concern that more power is being used in the home and the impact that may have on bills – this may need more government intervention to address fuel poverty." Individual assembly members commented:

Views on government action

Some assembly members said that changes "will be driven by industry and government – makes change more likely" or that "it hasn't changed my views on how to do it but it has demonstrated that it can be more 'doable' than I feared."

Some assembly members said that they now "feel this should be more of a common endeavour, not just the government doing stuff."

Financial and economic implications

Some assembly members said that "a lot has gone back to the drawing board, a lot of people have been financially very adversely affected" or that it will be "less feasible for home owners to upgrade homes – for next decade possibly – government action is essential." Others said that "people [are now] focused on keeping businesses going and getting debt paid off" or that there is "less money available to improve homes to become more energy efficient. Virus may delay reaching net zero. Worried government may not allocate sufficient funds to support this."

Some assembly members disagreed, commenting that "we have the wealth (using a global comparison) to do this despite current difficulties – and we should."

Changes to views on specific policies or technologies

Some assembly members said we should "maybe look more at home energy efficiency, e.g. [gas boiler] scrappage scheme – but more energy use in [the] home would be balanced by less office space." Others said they "wonder whether heat networks might be a less reliable source of power if lockdown conditions stay as there will be less industrial activity able to feed them."

Feel more strongly

One assembly member commented that it "made me more convinced of what needs doing." Another said "I feel even more strongly that we must make every effort we can to reduce emissions within the home and all the ways of doing this that we discussed and agreed on are even more important."

Shock

Some assembly members said that they were "shocked by the lack of impact [of lockdown] on climate change" or commented that "everyone has been shocked by what's happened with coronavirus."

Having work done while at home

Some assembly members said that "people won't want workmen in [their] home."

Ways in which thoughts and feelings hadn't changed, and why

No or very little change

Some assembly members said that Covid-19 and lockdown had made "no difference" to their views, or said that "not much has changed for me." One assembly member wrote that "I cannot see much changing in how we use energy in our homes except the high fixed costs of many methods may be more difficult for individuals to cover as disposable incomes fall during the recession. This would be another area where higher levels of government expenditure may be required to reach the net zero target. It will be interesting to see if this changes if some level of lockdown lasts over the winter months." Other individuals noted that "the 'in the home' topic was never really controversial so the solutions we came up with are relatively unchanged", or that "I still think the changes should be made and paid for and incentivised by government led initiatives."

Specific views unchanged

Some assembly members noted specific views that had stayed the same despite Covid-19 and lockdown. Some said that "homeowners were never going to pick up the bill – scale is massive, needs central funding" or that "government should be incentivising people to improve their homes with grants etc." Others re-emphasised the "benefits of solar panels" or said that "the building that has started again – needs to be energy efficient." Others commented that their "views in favour of hydrogen, regional heating systems etc haven't changed – just more urgency."

Haven't felt impact yet

Some assembly members said "it's been warm so I haven't had to put the heating on" or "we're now in summer, so no hardship being locked down. What will happen come winter, when household bills go up? Highlights the need for cheap energy."

Views haven't changed, but we have noticed changes

Some assembly members said they had noticed "more deliveries, increased use of [the] internet" or that "we are using more electricity." One assembly member commented:

B.2.4 'What we eat and how we use the land' & 'What we buy'

Assembly members who had examined 'what we eat and how we use the land' and 'what we buy' during weekends two and three of the assembly discussed the impact of Covid-19 and lockdown on their thoughts and feelings about these topics. As reported in Section B.1 above, 36% said that their thoughts and feelings had changed; 26% said they hadn't; 37% said they didn't know or were unsure.

Ways in which thoughts and feelings had changed, and why

Food security

Some assembly members said that "the UK is not a food secure country. 53% of our food is produced in the UK, 47% comes from elsewhere – imported, mainly from the EU." Some commented that "as countries come out of lockdown in different ways, importing food may be less doable – might grow more of our own." Others felt that the current situation "prompts [the] UK to be more independent with food – it's not sustainable to import to that extent – not just food, what else can we make here? Raises the question more pressingly that was already raised by net zero." Some queried "are we importing less food currently?" or said Covid-19 and lockdown "made [them] feel more strongly that we shouldn't be relying on imports."

Economic implications

Some assembly members expressed "concern that people are more worried about money at the moment." One commented, "I feel sorry for self-employed couples. Use their savings to get by. Wonder what the financial impacts of Covid-19 will be for many people?" Some assembly members predicted that "less disposable income will probably affect what people buy – maybe higher quality too – changing consumeristic attitudes." Some speculated that "meat use might reduce because it's more expensive." Some suggested that "having limited choices during the lockdown is a good example of what we could face with climate change. Good to see that we have been wasting less. We have planned the meals more. Saved money."

Buying locally and local produce

Some assembly members reported that they "have started buying more locally, trying to get things not imported. Altered shopping habits. Enjoyed doing it because [we] felt [we were] supporting local businesses." Other said they had "noticed people are using local produce more, even if it might be a bit more expensive (especially if they deliver). Used to be lots of people going to [the] supermarket. But because of queues etc, that's lessened and more uptake in local buying." Some assembly members disagreed saying the "uptake in local buying isn't the same everywhere – some places still shop at the supermarket because it's the cheapest."

Behaviour change

One assembly member commented that "consumer behaviours that I wouldn't have expected before I now believe are much more likely to happen (e.g. reusing products) so this effects the incentives required to change people's behaviours." Others noted that "people are sharing more – giving stuff to each other, or reduced rates for key workers, doing each others' shopping – will that attitude continue? Could help with emissions – stronger community spirit."

Change will be easier and is more important

One assembly member said "I think it'll be easier as long as we keep the momentum and use what we are learning now from this going forward." Another commented that "if anything they [the recommendations] are more important now than ever and would be even easier accepted. Very very important [that] diary farmers … get a fair price for milk …. They were being squeezed by the big 4 supermarkets. They deserve a fair price for their products." Other individuals suggested that "just introducing change may be easier as change is already happening" or that "this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to asses what we eat, what we actually need and food supply chain processes. Also transport options can be addressed for future environment targets."

Other comments

Other comments included:

Ways in which thoughts and feelings hadn't changed, and why

Our recommendations still stand

Some assembly members recorded a "consensus amongst the group that all the points made by assembly members [about food, farming and land use] are still relevant. How do you use the land better? How to use more renewable energy? The whole subject is common sense." Others said they "stand by the principles [previously agreed]: change is still needed" or that "everything that was decided in the Assembly is important. We know it is still important. Covid-19 has made it even more important." Some groups reported that it is "not clear that views have changed in any substantial way."

Our views haven't changed, but we have noticed changes

Some assembly members said differences between pre- and post-lockdown were "more about how things have changed rather than [that] views have changed." Some said that "food costs have gone up (oranges)", that "getting Polish food has become more difficult – miss it", or that "in general consumption patterns haven't changed – just things like not getting a coffee when you're out going for a walk." Some assembly members commented that "we've made big advances towards things that are positive for reaching net zero, and we should keep these things: buying locally and supporting local businesses, buying from local shops." One assembly member commented:

Conclusions – impact on the assembly's thinking

Assembly members tended to agree that Covid-19 and the lockdown had made them think or feel differently about the how the UK should get to net zero in general. 62% 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this was the case; 28% 'strongly disagreed' or 'disagreed'.

Assembly members who reported changed thoughts and feelings talked about areas including:

The impact of Covid-19 and the lockdown on assembly members' thoughts and feelings about topics they had considered before it happened varied.

The biggest impact was on views about 'how we travel': 75% of the assembly members who looked at this topic said that Covid-19 and lockdown had changed their thoughts and feelings about how to get to net zero in this area. Key themes in their discussions included:

A minority of assembly members said their thoughts and feelings had changed about the other topics the assembly had considered prior to the pandemic: 'in the home' (35%), and 'what we eat and how we use the land' and 'what we buy' (36%).

Assembly members who reported changed thoughts or feelings about heat and energy use 'in the home' had changed suggested that the pandemic may make change more likely : people are more aware of their energy use if they are at home more. They also noted the increased energy costs of being at home and suggested a need to address them. They put forward ideas ranging from an allowance from work, to cheap energy, to getting old homes retrofitted.

Assembly members who said their thoughts or feelings on 'what we eat and how we use the land' or 'what we buy' noted points including a feeling the UK should be less reliant on imports for its food. They also highlighted shifts in some areas to buying more local produce or from local businesses. Some assembly members suggested that changes to what we buy may now be easier, for example because of reduced incomes or an increased in community spirit.

Assembly members whose views had not changed suggested, among other comments, that the pandemic had provided evidence for views they already held, or underlined their importance. A minority of assembly members noted that they now saw reaching net zero as less of a priority than economic recovery.

Across all the votes, assembly members tended to avoid expressing 'strong' views – i.e. they chose 'agree' or 'disagree' rather than 'strongly agree' or 'strongly disagree'. This may reflect the uncertainties and emerging nature of the current situation. In general, their comments reflected the changed context created by Covid-19 rather rather requests for alterations to specific recommendations made earlier in the assembly. Some assembly members raised new issues, such as a the request to help people with the increased energy costs of being at home.

C. Anything else to add

Assembly members' ballot papers included the opportunity to add any final thoughts on Covid-19, recovery and the path to net zero. Many chose to leave comments. We have grouped them under ten overlapping headings, for ease of navigation.

What's important in life

"It may [be a] … chance for people to take stock of the important things in life."

"It was nice to be able to go for a walk and cross a normally very busy road without seeing a single car. It was good to see how many people started cycling too. My daughter is working from home and doesn't miss the commute to work, has saved money on petrol and has enjoyed spending time with her little boy. Perhaps there are bigger priorities for people's well-being than the state of the economy, and working from home will become the 'new normal'."

"Coronavirus [and] lockdown have made us value a more simple way of living, working from home, being with family."

"I feel many people will make changes in their own lives – some will, some won't. I feel [the] majority will though, and buy local, work less days a week. More will work from home reducing emissions etc."

Perceptions of what is possible

"Hopefully [it] made us look around and see clearer skies, less traffic. Made people see it is possible."

"Coronavirus has now shown us what is possible if people rally together and listen to science to save lives. We need to take this approach and move forward as we rebuild the economy."

"The lockdown is abnormal hence might not necessarily be a yardstick for climate change net zero aspirations. However, the present situation does prove that given [the] right incentives, humans can adapt."

"The Covid-19 crisis has brought home the realisation that we can't rely on quick technological fixes for every emergency. We need to start our work to address climate change now."

Information and communication

"Information and education are key for both how people have responded to the virus and how they should engage on the subject of climate change and the net zero target."

"It has shown that people can work together when they feel threatened, but also that if people are not fully aware or fully informed of the impending problem they will ignore it."

"Use observations of environmental changes seen during this time to show people what happened after such a short time of these restrictions."

An opportunity for change

"This is an opportunity to incorporate net zero into the new reality that will become tomorrow's new normal."

"This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for government to deliver environmental targets as part of our economy recovery."

"I think the lockdown has heightened people's awareness of climate change and what can be achieved. Strike while the iron's hot."

"It will be a grave mistake and missed opportunity if we simply try to helter-skelter back to our previous values and lifestyles."

"To the government: don't miss this chance to help us change the way we live now and for future generations."

Is meeting the net zero target possible or desirable now?

"I don't think that this is now going to be achieved due to the other issues that have been thrust upon us!"

"Concern that the economic impact may now take the focus off the target, as other priorities may be more to the front."

"It's going to be one hell of an effort to get there since companies and governments need to invest in projects/industries etc that will help achieve the goal of net zero."

"I think it has shown that on a personal level, and for our country as a whole, the priority has to be our economic well-being, and that green initiatives are a nice to have, when and if we can afford them."

The relative threat from climate change

"Even though Covid-19 is a priority, the climate emergency is even more urgent. Covid-19, if not contained would rip through our societies and millions would die. As with all pandemics some would survive and the human race would carry on. If we allow the planet to continue heating up to an extent where no intervention from us would stop it, we wouldn't have a world to live on and neither would the diversity of life we depend on."

"I believe the climate emergency is a bigger threat than coronavirus to the UK, the rest of the world and human beings in general. Covid-19 has been the biggest short-term threat we have faced in recent times, but the climate emergency is the biggest long term threat we will ever face. We need to continue with our target to achieve net zero and be the generation that'll be remembered that did everything we could to save our planet and recovered our economy from the coronavirus crisis through investing in carbon zero investments and technologies."

"More lives have been saved by reductions in air pollution already than have been lost to Covid-19. This shows the sheer scale of the crisis facing us with climate change. People are dying, forests are burning, towns and cities are flooding and island nations are disappearing below the waves. Now is the time to take action. Lives depend on us."

Transparency, leadership and the global context

"Government should not shy away from net zero in the wake of the virus. It should be bold and lead the discussion and efforts to get the public and companies on board."

"COP26 is an historic opportunity for the UK to show global leadership, re-establish its place in the world, and help build a global consensus for moving the world towards net zero as it moves out of this crisis."

"As no country has escaped Covid-19 and some are now working together to find answers and ways forward, perhaps it will be easier for global decisions to be made on climate issues."

"We need good leadership. Urgently."

"I think it is likely that the population will come out of this situation with a lower level of trust for the current government. Therefore, I think transparency in how they are reaching net zero, which industries they are investing in and where public money is being spent is vital in how we reach the net zero by 2050 target."

A green economic recovery

"I really like the idea of … companies [having] to reach certain net zero targets to benefit from government investment with high levels of enforcement."

"I think the most important thing for the government to do is think of ways to pair reaching net zero and recovering the economy. There are so many ways this can be done – e.g. bailing out companies but only if they agree to invest a [percentage of their] …  profits into a low carbon technology."

"Government should not just bailout companies, there should be a net zero portion to any monies spent …."

"With all the job losses after lockdown the government will need to retrain people with new skills. Why not achieve net zero with a green revolution."

Incentives for individuals and a basic income

"There is a concern that household investments in electric cars, heat pumps and double glazing will be delayed because of the squeeze on household incomes. The government needs to think of ways to incentivise purchases which support industry and allow individuals to move their habits to lower carbon [ones], as people will be putting off these big purchases for a while to come otherwise."

"I don't think you should be bailing out companies; I think you should be bailing out the people. Money is power! So if you give the money to the people, you'll be allowing the people to use their money to spend on the companies that are doing things right. People will be able to buy what they think is right rather than what they can afford. The last thing we need now is another recession, along with people being forced to spend money that they haven't got on making changes they don't understand. Educate the people to create a cleaner world and give them the funds to choose how they want to do this. [….] I believe now is the time to create a basic minimum income. Wealth creates wealth. Isn't it time for us to live in times of abundance, where things are done for the benefit of all, including the earth, the environment and the climate."

Additional comments on topics considered by the assembly

"I feel air travel no longer seems such a potent problem, especially for now, so we should probably focus our energies on cleaner power and cars and reduce movement a bit; then we will have a shot at reaching our target."

"I hope we do not go back to using our cars as much as before, or go back to flying as much as before. Just a reduction in both would help."

"The pandemic has changed how the decisions we made will work and this needs to be taken into account especially with the issue of how we need to not focus on public transport anymore."

"I think it has highlighted how dependent we are on imports, especially in the food industry. If we can produce more locally it would certainly be beneficial for the economy as well as reducing carbon emissions from importing goods from abroad."

"I think there has been a massive impact on what we consume when there is no opportunity to go shopping (not including food shopping) which will have a further impact on how we live after lockdown, especially if disposable incomes fall. I think this is a chance to encourage people to move away from a disposable, fast-paced consumption to more reusable and repairable goods."

One assembly commented that "I see a lot of positives but many will be in financial difficulties – [the] self-employed, small businesses etc."

Conclusions

Assembly members' views on Covid-19, recovery and the path to net zero are significant. No other group is at once a representative sample of the UK population and well-acquainted with the steps needed to reach net zero.

A clear view emerged from assembly members' discussions that the current "tough and sad time" presents an opportunity for change that should be taken.

A large majority of assembly members (79%) 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that, 'steps taken by the government to help the economy recover should be designed to help achieve net zero'. Their most frequently given reasons included requests for the Government to:

Assembly members who were unsure or who disagreed with the statement tended to emphasise a need to focus on economic recovery first and foremost.

Another large majority (93%) of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that, 'as lockdown eases, government, employers and/or others should take steps to encourage lifestyles to change to be more compatible with reaching net zero'. Assembly members backed steps to encourage homeworking and changes to how we travel. They also saw a key role for government in providing leadership and information, alongside roles for business and local areas.

In contrast to the above assembly members tended to avoid expressing 'strong' 130 views about whether Covid-19 and lockdown had made them think or feel differently about the how the UK should get to net zero.

Overall they tended to agree that they now thought or felt differently about how the UK should get to net zero in general (62%). They re-emphasised the idea of there being an opportunity for change, whilst also reporting altered perceptions of what is possible (e.g. what government can do) and pointing to lifestyle changes that are already happening. Some highlighted the economic impacts of the pandemic, suggesting, for example, that they make reaching net zero more difficult.

In terms of topics that the assembly had considered prior to the pandemic, the biggest impact was on views about 'how we travel': 73% of the assembly members who looked at this topic said that Covid-19 and lockdown had changed their thoughts and feelings about how to get to net zero in this area. Key themes in their discussions included:

A minority of assembly members said their thoughts and feelings had changed about the other topics the assembly had considered prior to the pandemic: 'in the home' (35%), and 'what we eat and how we use the land' and 'what we buy (36%)'.

Assembly members whose thoughts and feelings had not changed suggested, among other comments, that the pandemic had provided evidence for views they already held, or underlined their importance. A minority noted that they now saw reaching net zero as less of a priority than economic recovery.

In general, assembly members comments reflected the changed context created by Covid-19 rather rather requests for alterations to specific recommendations made earlier in the assembly. Some assembly members raised new issues, such as a a request to help people with the increased energy costs of being at home.

Additional recommendations

Summary of recommendations

  1. On the final assembly weekend, all assembly members discussed whether or not they wanted to add any further recommendations to this report. Assembly members worked together to draft suggested additions. The proposals were then put to a vote of the whole assembly.
  2. In total, assembly members voted in favour of thirty-nine additional recommendations. They did not pass two further proposals. The recommendations touch on themes including: transparency, accountability and decision-making; education, communication and engagement; international action and impacts; and incentives, payments, conditions, and taxes.
  3. For the full list and wording of each recommendation – some are detailed – please keep reading this chapter. The ten additional recommendations that received most support were:
    • The transition to net zero should be a cross-political party issue, and not a partisan one (96% support) 131
    • More transparency in the relationship between big energy companies and government (94% support)
    • Get to net zero without pushing our emissions to elsewhere in the world (92% support)
    • Incentives to accelerate progress to net zero and conditions attached for organisations seeking government financial support (91% support)
    • A robust media strategy on the outcomes of the assembly (90% support)
    • An independent neutral body that monitors and ensures progress to net zero, including citizens assemblies and independent experts (89% support)
    • Move away from fossil fuels and transition to new energy sources (89% support)
    • Products and services labelled to include their carbon footprint (89% support)
    • A follow up on the outcomes of the assembly covering what has been taken into account, what hasn't and why (88% support)
    • Harness the response to Covid-19 and COP26 to drive international co-ordinated action on climate change (87% support)

Proposals not passed by the assembly

The assembly did not pass two proposals. Both focussed on reaching net zero by an earlier date than 2050. Slightly more assembly members opposed such a move than supported it, with the balance held by those who were 'unsure' or 'didn't mind'.

Additional recommendations

On the final assembly weekend, all assembly members discussed whether or not they wanted to add any further recommendations to this report.

What did the assembly choose to consider?

Assembly members could suggest recommendations on any aspect of the path to net zero. They started by thinking, as individuals, about the following question:132

"Is there anything else you would like to tell government and Parliament about how the UK should get to net zero?"

They then discussed emerging proposals in small groups, with each group able to put forward a maximum of three ideas. The facilitation team turned these ideas into a ballot paper, using assembly members' own wording.133 There were forty-one suggestions for additional recommendations in total. Assembly members then voted by secret ballot.

Assembly members did not hear any new evidence to inform their votes. Their decisions were based on their own experiences, values, views and knowledge, and the information they had heard throughout the assembly. We made clear to assembly members that they did not have to vote on all the proposals if they did not want to, or that they could choose 'unsure' if they did not feel they had sufficient information to express a view.

Vote results

In total, a majority of assembly members backed thirty-nine additional recommendations. They rejected two.

The results for all the recommendations are included below. We have categorised them under the following headings to make them easier to navigate:

We used the same headings to organise the proposals on assembly members' ballot papers.

Transparency, accountability and decision-making

A majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with all the suggested recommendations in this category:

The full wording of each recommendation was as follows. Recommendations are listed in order of popularity:134

Figure 1: Transparency, accountability and decision-making. Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Cross-party approach

75% Strongly Agree

21% Agree

4% Don’t mind or unsure

0% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Transparency in the relationship between big energy companies and government

74% Strongly Agree

20% Agree

5% Don’t mind or unsure

0% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Dedicated government department for net zero

73% Strongly Agree

13% Agree

7% Don’t mind or unsure

4% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Government Minster with responsibility and accountability for net zero

51% Strongly Agree

27% Agree

14% Don’t mind or unsure

7% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Government to publish carbon budgets

57% Strongly Agree

29% Agree

10% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Face-to-face or online follow-up about assembly outcomes

72% Strongly Agree

16% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

1% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Government held to account on net zero through an on-going relationship with citizens

54% Strongly Agree

28% Agree

13% Don’t mind or unsure

4% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Citizens’ assembly oversight on net zero target progress

51% Strongly Agree

29% Agree

10% Don’t mind or unsure

7% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Citizens’ assembly on net zero issues not covered by this assembly

37% Strongly Agree

22% Agree

28% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

At least annual independent reviews of progress towards net zero

47% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

13% Don’t mind or unsure

4% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Independent neutral body to monitor net zero progress

59% Strongly Agree

30% Agree

8% Don’t mind or unsure

2% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Figure 1: Transparency, accountability and decision-making: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Education, communication and engagement

Figure 2 : Education, communication and engagement: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Climate change compulsory subject in school

49% Strongly Agree

31% Agree

10% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

4% Strongly disagree

Robust media strategy for assembly outcomes

58% Strongly Agree

32% Agree

8% Don’t mind or unsure

2% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Communication and engagement plan for the public

41% Strongly Agree

45% Agree

10% Don’t mind or unsure

1% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Information portal and live CO2 tracker

38% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

15% Don’t mind or unsure

2% Disagree

5% Strongly disagree

Figure 2: Education, communication and engagement: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

At least 75% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with all the recommendations in this category. The percentage of assembly members 'disagreeing' or 'strongly disagreeing' was low throughout, never amounting to more than 10% in total.

The full wording of each recommendation was as follows. Recommendations are listed in order of popularity:

Covid-19

Figure 3: Covid-19: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Consider impact of Covid-19 on different groups e.g. when investing in green technology

23% Strongly Agree

42% Agree

22% Don’t mind or unsure

9% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Grasp opportunities of Vodi-19 to keep reducing emissions

56% Strongly Agree

27% Agree

10% Don’t mind or unsure

5% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Net zero measures should not do more harm than Covid-19

47% Strongly Agree

33% Agree

13% Don’t mind or unsure

2% Disagree

4% Strongly disagree

Figure 3: Covid-19: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Over 60% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with all the suggested recommendations in this category:

The full wording of each recommendation was as follows. Recommendations are listed in order of popularity:

Generations and equality

Figure 4: Generations and equality: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

All generations should take responsibility

65% Strongly Agree

29% Agree

4% Don’t mind or unsure

2% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Legislation to protect future generations

58% Strongly Agree

23% Agree

13% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Impact equality statements must be carried out

43% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

20% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

0% Strongly disagree

Figure 4: Generations and equality: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Over 70% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with all the recommendations in this category:

The full wording of each recommendation was as follows. Recommendations are listed in order of popularity:

International action and impacts

Figure 5: International action and impacts: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Harness Covid-19 and Cop26 to drive international co-ordination

53% Strongly Agree

34% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

1% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Don’t push our emission to elsewhere in the world

66% Strongly Agree

26% Agree

7% Don’t mind or unsure

0% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Hold companies accountable for emissions in the UK and elsewhere

56% Strongly Agree

29% Agree

12% Don’t mind or unsure

1% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Figure 5: International action and impacts: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Over 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with all the recommendations in this category, with a majority 'strongly agreeing' in all cases. Levels of 'strong disagreement' or 'disagreement' were very low, never rising to more than 4% in total.

The full wording of each recommendation was as follows. Recommendations are listed in order of popularity:

The net zero target date

Figure 6: net zero target date : Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

We should aim for an earlier date than 2050, but it shouldn’t be legally binding

17 % Strongly Agree

18% Agree

24% Don’t mind or unsure

26% Disagree

14% Strongly disagree

We should change the net zero target to an earlier date than 2050

17% Strongly Agree

18% Agree

28% Don’t mind or unsure

23% Disagree

13% Strongly disagree

Figure 6: The net zero target date: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

The two proposals in this category were the only suggestions for additional recommendations not passed by assembly members.

The full wording of each suggested recommendation was as follows.

What we buy

Figure 7: What we buy: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Labels for products and services

52% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

4% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Goods last longer and can be upgraded for free

49% Strongly Agree

35% Agree

10% Don’t mind or unsure

1% Disagree

4% Strongly disagree

Figure 7: What we buy: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Over 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with all the suggested recommendations in this category. Levels of 'strong disagreement' or 'disagreement' were very low, never rising above 5% in total.

The full wording of each recommendation was as follows. Recommendations are listed in order of popularity:

Incentives, payments, conditions, and taxes

Over 80% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with four of the suggested recommendations in this category (please see below). Levels of 'strong disagreement' or 'disagreement' with these proposals were very low, never reaching more than 6% in total.

The final suggested recommendation around introducing a carbon tax was more controversial: a slim majority of assembly members (53%) supported it; 24% were 'unsure' or 'didn't mind'; 22% opposed it.

Figure 8: Incentives, payments, conditions, and taxes: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Incentives and conditions to accelerate progress to net zero

47% Strongly Agree

44% Agree

6% Don’t mind or unsure

1% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Companies accountable for their climate impact and pay proportionality

50% Strongly Agree

35% Agree

9% Don’t mind or unsure

4% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Legislation in relation to financial services

53% Strongly Agree

31% Agree

10% Don’t mind or unsure

4% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Financial services encouraged to invest in climate conscious companies

49% Strongly Agree

33% Agree

12% Don’t mind or unsure

2% Disagree

4% Strongly disagree

Government to introduce a Carbon Tax fair to different income groups

31% Strongly Agree

22% Agree

24% Don’t mind or unsure

13% Disagree

9% Strongly disagree

Figure 8: Incentives, payments, conditions and taxes: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

The full wording of each recommendation was as follows. They are listed in order of popularity:

Other specific policy areas

Figure 9: Other specific policy areas: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Government should tackle waste water and prioritise water conservation

34% Strongly Agree

38% Agree

20% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

2% Strongly disagree

Government should look at freight in relation to net zero

35% Strongly Agree

47% Agree

13% Don’t mind or unsure

4% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Government should review the carbon credit system

34% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

19% Don’t mind or unsure

4% Disagree

6% Strongly disagree

Carbon offsetting should be legally binding

26% Strongly Agree

27% Agree

30% Don’t mind or unsure

11% Disagree

7% Strongly disagree

Move away from fossil fuels

52% Strongly Agree

37% Agree

7% Don’t mind or unsure

3% Disagree

1% Strongly disagree

Transport forced to use synthetic fuels, partially airlines

32% Strongly Agree

26% Agree

31% Don’t mind or unsure

6% Disagree

3% Strongly disagree

Figure 9: Other specific policy areas: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Over 70% of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with five of the suggested recommendations in this category (please see below). Levels of 'strong disagreement' or 'disagreement' with these proposals were low, never rising above 10% in total.

Fewer assembly members (58% and 53%, respectively) supported the other two suggested recommendations, around synthetic fuels and carbon offsetting. Levels of opposition were however low (11% for synthetic fuels) or moderate (18% for carbon offsetting). High numbers of assembly members said they were 'unsure' or 'didn't mind' (31% and 30%, respectively) about these proposals.

The full wording of each recommendation was as follows. They are listed in order of popularity:

Miscellaneous

Figure 10: Miscellaneous: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

Major national competition for net zero ideas

28% Strongly Agree

42% Agree

21% Don’t mind or unsure

5% Disagree

4% Strongly disagree

Fundraising for net zero – ‘Climate relief’

24% Strongly Agree

33% Agree

22% Don’t mind or unsure

12% Disagree

8% Strongly disagree

Figure 10: Miscellaneous: Please tell us how much you agree or disagree with each of the following (%)

A majority of assembly members 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with both the suggested recommendations in this category – in one case by a relatively large margin (70%) and in one case by a slim one (57%). Relatively high numbers of assembly members (21% and 22%) said they 'didn't mind' or were 'unsure' about both proposals.

The full wording of each recommendation was as follows. They are listed in order of popularity:

Conclusions

Assembly members made thirty-nine additional recommendations in total. Many received high levels of backing: at least 80% of assembly members supported twenty-five of the recommendations; at least two-thirds supported thirty-four of them.

The recommendations covered a broad range of areas, and included statements at the level of aims as well as more specific policy proposals:

The assembly did not support two proposals, both around reaching net zero earlier than 2050. Slightly more assembly members opposed such a move than supported it, with the balance held by those who were 'unsure' or 'didn't mind.'

The assembly members' agreement of their additional recommendations brought the assembly process to its close. It marked the completion of Climate Assembly UK's recommended path to net zero.

Above : Chris Stark (Committee on Climate Change) and Tony Juniper (Natural England) take questions from assembly members.

Acknowledgements

The six commissioning select committees would like to thank:

Most of all we would like to thank the assembly members for their dedication, hard work, and the thoughtful and considered nature of their recommendations.

Photos of Assembly by Fabio de Paola / PA Wire

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Notes


1:The Involve Foundation ('Involve') is the public participation charity that led the delivery of Climate Assembly UK.

2:For more information about the role of the Expert Leads in Climate Assembly UK, please see Chapter 1.

3:The six commissioning select committees were: Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy; Environmental Audit; Housing, Communities and Local Government; Science and Technology; Transport; and Treasury. The committees announced their plans for the assembly on 20 June 2019.

4:For full figures comparing assembly members to the UK population, please see Chapter 1.

5:For more information about the assembly's 47 speakers and how they were chosen, including the roles of the assembly's Expert Leads, Advisory Panel and Academic Panel please see Chapter 1.

6:The website also contains a wealth of other information about the assembly, including how it was funded and who was involved. See climateassembly.uk

7:Each assembly member could vote for eight principles.

8:Climate Assembly UK considered our travel on land for personal uses such as shopping, the school run and commuting. The assembly did not look at transport used for services and to move goods, also known as freight. This followed guidance from Parliament about where to focus if there was not time to consider all aspects of land travel.

9:This refers to a case study presented by one of the speakers, Lynn Sloman, during weekend two of the assembly. It showed the impact of introducing free bus travel in Dunkirk in autumn 2018. Bus trips increased by 85% on some routes, and half of the new bus users previously travelled by car.

10:% of assembly members who 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that the policy should be part of how the UK gets to net zero.

11:'Localisation' was described as involving (1) changing regulations to ensure that new houses can only be built with good public transport links, and (2) including or putting back into local areas services such as post offices, local shops, health centres and schools.

12:Climate Assembly UK considered air travel for personal use. The assembly did not look at air travel for the transportation of goods. This followed guidance from Parliament on where to focus, if there was not time to consider both.

13:https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/862887/2018_Final_greenhouse_gas_emissions_statistical_release.pdf

14:105 assembly members were selected to be strictly representative of the UK population. The final five assembly members were used to over-sample groups that are either very small (meaning that an assembly member being ill for a weekend, for example, would leave them poorly represented) or which are more likely to drop out of the assembly process. For example, we slightly over-sampled people from Northern Ireland. Similarly, taken together, people in the attitudes to climate change poll who are 'not at all' or 'not very concerned' about climate change are slightly over-represented (+3 people) amongst assembly members.

15:Where bars in the graph don't add up to 100% this is because some assembly members abstained.

16:% assembly members who 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that this greenhouse gas removal method should be part of how the UK gets to net zero.

17:The resulting session took place at the final assembly weekend on 16th May. At the time, strict lockdown measures were in place in all four UK nations.

18:They tended to choose 'agree' or 'disagree' in all four relevant votes, rather than 'strongly agree' or 'strongly disagree'.

19:% of assembly members who 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with the recommendation.

20:The six commissioning select committees were: Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy; Environmental Audit; Housing, Communities and Local Government; Science and Technology; Transport; and Treasury.

21:The committees announced their plans for the assembly on 20 June 2019.

22:For a broader discussion on citizens' assembly features and standards in a UK context please see https://www.involve.org.uk/resources/blog/news/when-citizens-assembly-not-citizens-assembly-towards-some-standards .

23:Sir David did not give evidence to the assembly, instead he came to meet assembly members before dinner at the first assembly weekend. He thanked assembly members for giving up their time to be part of the assembly, and took questions about his life and work – but not about his views on the path to net zero.

24:Please see Section D below.

25:Responses to invitation letters can be lower from more deprived areas. Weighting where letters are sent in this way helps ensure that enough people from these areas respond for the assembly's eventual make-up to be representative of the wider population.

26:The invitation letter explained information including when the assembly would be held, the assembly's remit, who had commissioned it, and what the commissioning committees would do with its results. It also covered information about the assembly team's ability to meet different access needs and the support we could provide.

27:We defined this as anyone that had stayed, or intended to stay, in the UK for a period of 12 months or more at the date on the invitation letter.

28:The following people could not apply to be part of the assembly: Members of either Houses of the UK Parliament, the Welsh Parliament, the Scottish Parliament, or the Northern Ireland Assembly – and the staff of any of these Members; Local Authority Councillors; elected mayors; paid employees of any political party or of UK Parliament.

29:We received positive responses from 1,748 people. This response rate of 5.8% is within the typical range for citizens' assemblies in the UK (3–7%).

30:The code for the selection is open source, and can be found on GitHub. Those who contributed to the code include Professor Ariel Procaccia and his team at Harvard University and Carnegie Mellon University.

31:105 assembly members were selected to be strictly representative of the UK population. The final five assembly members were used to over-sample groups that are either very small (meaning that an assembly member being ill for a weekend, for example, would leave them poorly represented) or which are more likely to drop out of the assembly process. For example, we slightly over-sampled people from Northern Ireland. Similarly, taken together, people in the attitudes to climate change poll who are 'not at all' or 'not very concerned' about climate change are slightly over-represented (+3 people) amongst assembly members.

32:One assembly member withdrew from the assembly process after the first weekend for personal reasons. As this happened so early in the assembly process, and all the talks and Q&A sessions from weekend one were available online, we decided to replace them from the assembly's reserve list. A new assembly member joined from weekend two and remained with the assembly throughout its duration.

33:One assembly member missed weekend two for health reasons. One (not the same person) missed weekend three for health reasons. When the assembly moved online due to coronavirus (please see Section B), two assembly members got in touch to tell us that they may have difficulty attending assembly sessions for Covid-19 related reasons. They asked to receive all the assembly information and said they would take part if they could. We aimed to facilitate their involvement by, for example, sharing speakers' pre-recorded presentations with them to watch in their own time. Sadly, however, these two assembly members did not take part in the online weekends. One further assembly member, who had previously missed a weekend for health reasons, also did not take part. Two further assembly members missed the final assembly weekend for personal reasons. The final weekend therefore had the lowest attendance of any weekend, with 103 out of the 108 assembly members present.

34:The measures described here are not an exhaustive list but they give an indication of the kinds of steps taken by the assembly team. We made it clear to assembly members that we could provide these, and other, types of support in the invitation letter. We also checked all assembly members' needs and preferences during stage three of recruitment.

35:We advised assembly members receiving welfare benefits to check with their advisor about whether or not the honorarium would negatively affect them and, if yes, whether it would help if the honorarium was paid in vouchers for a shop of their choice. Assembly members could also choose to waive the honorarium entirely, although no one did. Some assembly members did choose to receive vouchers rather than bank transfers.

36:There was a professional facilitator at each table, as well as at the front of the room.

37:Again this list is not exhaustive, but it gives a flavour of the measures put in place.

38:Each weekend in Birmingham ran from Friday evening to Sunday lunchtime. The online weekends each had short sessions on Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning.

39:Please see Chapter 10 for the results of this session.

40:Assembly members heard a short presentation on this topic from Dr Alan Renwick, (Constitution Unit, University College London). All speakers' presentations are available as slides, videos and transcripts at climateassembly.uk/resources/ .

41:The assembly released its key recommendations on 'Covid-19, recovery and the path to net zero' in June 2020, in advance of government announcements on this issue.

42:The Expert Leads also used assembly members' comments at previous weekends to help shape the options.

43:Involve (please see Section D) contacted the Expert Leads to ask if they would be interested in principle in being involved before submitting a proposal for Parliament's tender for contract. The team at Parliament working on Climate Assembly UK approved these individuals as the assembly's Expert Leads when awarding the contract, on the basis of their clear expertise in addressing climate change.

44:Advisory Panel members were chosen to represent stakeholders with an interest or expertise in the areas of emissions reduction that Parliament and the Expert Leads felt Climate Assembly UK should examine. The organisations were chosen to make the panel balanced across a broad range of political and ideological standpoints, representing different parts of society (e.g. business, trade unions, NGOs and civil society groups). A climate change specialist in the Parliamentary Office of Science and Technology (POST) drew up an initial list of members. The Climate Assembly UK team at Parliament then worked with the Expert Leads to ensure that this group met the above criteria.

45:Chaitanya has since changed roles but was at Green Alliance at the point when Advisory Panel meetings took place.

46:Academic Panel members were chosen on the basis of their expertise on areas of climate change that Parliament and the Expert Leads felt Climate Assembly UK should examine. A climate change specialist in the Parliamentary Office of Science and Technology (POST) drew up an initial list of members. The Climate Assembly UK team at Parliament then worked with the Expert Leads to ensure that this group met the above criteria.

47:Parliamentary officials were also able to input to all aspects of the assembly's plans at earlier stages in their development.

48:Rachel Reeves MP has since left her role as a committee chair to become Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and Shadow Minister for the Cabinet Office.

49:The House of Commons provided £120,000 in funding. The Esmée Fairbairn Foundation and the European Climate Foundation contributed a further £200,000 each, rising to £220,000 each to help cover the additional costs incurred due to Covid-19.

50:The assembly heard from nine speakers across its first three panels: Professor Joanna Haigh, Imperial College London (informant); Professor Ed Hawkins, University of Reading (informant); Professor Rebecca Willis, University of Lancaster (informant); Chris Stark, Committee on Climate Change (informant); Fernanda Balata, New Economics Foundation (advocate); Professor Paul Ekins, University College London (advocate); Modi Mwatsama, Wellcome (advocate); Tony Juniper, Natural England (advocate); Kirsten Leggatt, 2050 Climate Group (advocate). All speakers' presentations are available as slides, videos and transcripts at climateassembly.uk/resources/. An 'informant' is a speaker who we asked to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic. An 'advocate' is a speaker who we asked to give their own view, or the view of their organisation. Assembly members knew whether speakers were informants or advocates.

51:With the rest made up of air travel (22%) and sea travel (8%).

52:BEIS (2019) Final UK greenhouse gas emissions national statistics 1990–2017.

53:BEIS (2019) Final UK greenhouse gas emissions national statistics 1990–2017.

54:Age, gender, ethnicity, educational qualification, where in the UK they live and whether they live in an urban or rural area.

55:The assembly heard from six speakers on surface transport: Professor Jillian Anable, University of Leeds (informant); Ellie Davies, Committee on Climate Change (informant); Lynn Sloman, Transport for Quality of Life (informant); Jason Torrance, UK100 (informant); Steve Melia, University of West England (advocate); John Siraut, Jacobs (advocate). All speakers' presentations are available as slides, videos and transcripts at climateassembly.uk/resources/. An 'informant' is a speaker who we asked to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic. An 'advocate' is a speaker who we asked to give their own view, or the view of their organisation. Assembly members knew whether speakers were informants or advocates.

56:HC Deb, 20 July 2017, col 72WS. The Government announced the cancellation of many newly electrified lines in favour of hybrid (bi-modal) trains.

57:One assembly member abstained from the vote on 'grants for business and people to buy low carbon cars' so the figures for this option add up to 97% not 100%.

58:The Expert Leads had noted that cars that use less fuel and therefore produce less carbon emissions would pay less duty.

59:As previously noted, this referred back to a case study presented by one of the speakers, Lynn Sloman, during Weekend Two of the assembly. It showed the impact of introducing free bus travel in Dunkirk in autumn 2018. Bus trips increased 85%, and half of the new bus users previously travelled by car. Lynn's talk is available at climateassembly.uk/resources/

60:As previously noted, this referred back to a case study presented by one of the speakers, Lynn Sloman, during Weekend Two of the assembly. Lynn's talk is available at climateassembly.uk/resources/

61:This is where buses or trains are guided automatically along a purpose-built track. The driver controls the speed. Guided buses are flexible in that they can also be driven on normal roads.

62:Figures given are for the % of assembly members who 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' that a policy should be part of how the UK gets to net zero.

63:The Expert Leads described 'localisation' as involving (1) changing regulations to ensure that new houses can only be built with good public transport links, and (2) including or putting back into local areas services such as post offices, local shops, health centres and schools.

64:The Expert Leads described this as involving restricting cars in certain lanes, roads or zones. They said it could eventually mean that cars are not allowed in most town centres. There could also be temporary closures, such as regular car free days.

65:A 25–50% increase between 2018 and 2050 is equivalent to a growth in passenger numbers of between 0.7% and 1.3% per year. Between 2000 and 2018, the annual rate of growth in passenger numbers was 2.8%. Department for Transport (2019) Aviation Statistics: data table AVI0101: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/aviation-statistics-data-tables-avi

66:BEIS (2019) Final UK greenhouse gas emissions national statistics 1990–2017. These figures do not include military aircraft and shipping.

67:Department for Transport (2019), Energy and environment: data tables, https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/energy-and-environment-data-tables-env, Table ENV0201.

68:Department for Transport (2019), Energy and environment: data tables, https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/energy-and-environment-data-tables-env

69:Climate Assembly UK speaker Dr Sally Cairns calculated that freight account for 12–14% of emissions from aircraft.

70:Age, gender, ethnicity, educational qualification, where in the UK they live and whether they live in an urban or rural area.

71:The assembly heard from six speakers on air travel: Professor Jim Watson, University College London (informant); Owen Bellamy, Committee on Climate Change (informant); Professor Alice Larkin, University of Manchester (informant); Dr Sally Cairns, University of Leeds (informant); Leo Murray, Possible (advocate); Rachael Everard, Rolls Royce (advocate). All speakers' presentations are available as slides, videos and transcripts at climateassembly.uk/resources/. An 'informant' is a speaker who we asked to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic. An 'advocate' is a speaker who we asked to give their own view, or the view of their organisation. Assembly members knew whether speakers were informants or advocates.

72:Even if technologies and policies to move towards net zero are successful, it is very likely that there will still be emissions from flying in 2050: emissions from flying have grown significantly in the last 30 years; new technologies and fuels that could substantially reduce emissions – such as synthetic fuels and electric aircraft – are at an early stage of development and their future impact on emissions is uncertain.

73:A 50% growth in passenger numbers between 2018 and 2050 is in line with the Department for Transport's central forecast, which assumes that airport capacity is not expanded. [source: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/878705/uk-aviation-forecasts-2017.pdf]

74:A 65% growth in passenger numbers between 2018 and 2050 is similar to the assumption made in a recent decarbonisation roadmap published by an airline industry body called Sustainable Aviation in early 2020. [source: https://www.sustainableaviation.co.uk/news/uk-aviation-commits-to-net-zero-carbon-emissions-by-2050/]

75:'Mt/pa' refers to million tonnes of CO2 per year.

76:The Expert Leads developed this scenario as a direct response to comments made by assembly members at weekend two of the assembly.

77:Other policies that could have been included here – for example no further airport expansion or investment in alternatives to flying – were embedded in some of the possible futures covered in Section B. Support for the development and use of new technology was also covered separately in a later vote (please see page 153). These options therefore focus on taxation.

78:Assembly members did not discuss this option in-depth because it was added so close in to the vote. We are therefore unable to include a full rationale for assembly members' views about it. However, their comments on the other two policy options, shed considerable light on why assembly members wanted it included.

79:The current tax is called Air Passenger Duty. It does not reflect the impact of air travel on climate change because the rates of tax do not reflect the emissions produced.

80:Please see footnote 14 on page 138.

81:https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/862887/2018_Final_greenhouse_gas_emissions_statistical_release.pdf

82:https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/862887/2018_Final_greenhouse_gas_emissions_statistical_release.pdf

83:Age, gender, ethnicity, educational qualification, where in the UK they live and whether they live in an urban or rural area.

84:The assembly heard from ten speakers on 'in the home': Jenny Hill, Committee on Climate Change (informant); Professor Nick Eyre, University of Oxford (informant); Richard Lowes, UK Energy Research Centre (advocate); Chris Clarke, Wales and West (advocate); Professor Rebecca Willis, Lancaster University (informant); Polly Billington, UK100 (advocate); Jonathon Atkinson, Carbon Co-op (advocate); Dan Alchin, EnergyUK (advocate); Matthew Lipson, Energy Systems Catapult (advocate); Dhara Vyas, Citizens' Advice (advocate). All speakers' presentations are available as slides, videos and transcripts at climateassembly.uk/resources/. An 'informant' is a speaker who we asked to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic. An 'advocate' is a speaker who we asked to give their own view, or the view of their organisation. Assembly members knew whether speakers were informants or advocates.

85:This is where you pay a company to manage your home heating – for example, by hour and by room – and provide you with heat when you need it, rather than just paying a gas bill.

86:One comment on a ballot paper expanded on this point. It said a "government fund is needed to establish a body of expertise to give professional guidance and advice to individuals and local government to help / ensure only viable solutions are attempted whilst allowing as much freedom of choice as possible."

87:74% of land in the UK is used for agriculture (26% for cropland, 31% for grassland, 17% for rough grazing) – Committee on Climate Change (2018), Land use: Reducing emissions and preparing for climate change.

88:Age, gender, ethnicity, educational qualification, where in the UK they live and whether they live in an urban or rural area.

89:The assembly heard from six speakers on what we eat and how we use the land: Indra Thillainathan, Committee on Climate Change (informant), Ceris Jones, National Farmers' Union (advocate), Sue Pritchard, RSA (advocate), Dr Jo House, University of Bristol (informant), Dr Rosie Green, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (informant), Professor Tim Lang, City University (informant). All speakers' presentations are available as slides, videos and transcripts at climateassembly.uk/resources/. An 'informant' is a speaker who we asked to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic. An 'advocate' is a speaker who we asked to give their own view, or the view of their organisation. Assembly members knew whether speakers were informants or advocates.

90:Options a, b, d and f are: low carbon farming regulations, payments for carbon storage, government contracts for bioenergy and forestry products, and information and skills training.

91:We think this is a reference to this scheme – http://www.onetreeperchild.com – which was brought up by an assembly member.

92:The assembly went on to consider carbon capture and storage in detail. Please see chapter nine.

93:The assembly went on to look at bioenergy in detail (please see chapter eight).

94:One of the speakers, Sue Pritchard from the RSA, mentioned 'beetroot bonds.' They are the idea that: "Every person in the UK would receive a monthly dividend to spend on fresh, healthy produce purchased directly from local farmers and traders. For more information, please see https://www.thersa.org/globalassets/reports/rsa-ffcc-our-future-in-the-land.pdf

95:For more information about FareShare please see https://fareshare.org.uk

96:Buy One Get One Free

97:Allwood, J., Azevedo, J., Clare, A., Cleaver, C.,  et al. (2019). Absolute Zero. https://doi.org/10.17863/CAM.46075

98:We explained this fact to assembly members and provided them with brief information about UK and overseas emissions.

99:Age, gender, ethnicity, educational qualification, where in the UK they live and whether they live in an urban or rural area.

100:The assembly heard from six speakers on what we buy: Professor Lorraine Whitmarsh, University of Bath (informant); Professor Mike Berners-Lee, Lancaster University; Professor John Barratt, University of Leeds (informant); Dr Nicole Koenig-Lewis, Cardiff Business School (informant); Julie Hill, WRAP (informant); Libby Peake, Green Alliance (informant). All speakers' presentations are available as slides, videos and transcripts at climateassembly.uk/resources/. An 'informant' is a speaker who we asked to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic.

101:The assembly went on to discuss carbon capture and storage in detail. Their thoughts and recommendations on it are presented in chapter nine.

102:There is no one agreed definition of what a Just Transition entails, but broadly it relates to who bears the cost of taking action on climate change. The Scottish Government's Just Transition Commission, which published its interim report in February 2020, suggested that, "The imperative of a just transition is that Governments design policies in a way that ensures the benefits of climate change action are shared widely, while the costs do not unfairly burden those least able to pay, or whose livelihoods are directly or indirectly at risk as the economy shifts and changes." https://www.gov.scot/publications/transition-commission-interim-report/.

103:The assembly went on to look at ways to remove greenhouses gases from the atmosphere in detail. Their recommendations on this topic are presented in chapter nine.

104:This is a reference to The Freecycle Network www.freecycle.org

105:LETS (Local Exchange Trading Systems) are community-based networks in which people exchange goods and services with one another, instead of using money (https://www.letslinkuk.net/).

106:Assembly members considered 'taxes on producers, products and services' both as a way to reduce emissions from products and services, and as a way to encourage people to buy less (please see page 341). Assembly members made this point when they were considering the impacts of the taxes on consumer behaviour.

107:https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/packaging-waste-changing-the-uk-producer-responsibility-system-for-packaging-waste

108:Please see Section A at the start of this chapter.

109:https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/introducing-a-deposit-return-scheme-drs-for-drinks-containers-bottles-and-cans/outcome/introducing-a-deposit-return-scheme-drs-in-england-wales-and-northern-ireland-executive-summary-and-next-steps

110:https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/environment-bill-2020/10-march-2020-waste-and-resource-efficiency-factsheet-part-3

111:The assembly also heard introductory evidence on this topic at the start of weekend two. This ensured assembly members were aware of key issues about where our electricity comes from, before discussing related themes such as surface transport and heating our homes. The subject of hydrogen was touched on during this weekend two introductory session and is picked up in comments from some assembly members in this chapter. Similarly, assembly members who looked at air travel heard evidence on synthetic fuels during weekend two, another area touched on by some assembly members during this chapter.

112:This included information about measures needed to ensure that the supply and use of electricity are balanced in real time – including storage (e.g. via batteries) and interconnectors (cables to other countries).

113:The assembly did not have sufficient time to look at every way of generating electricity. It therefore focussed mainly on the technologies with most potential to generate a substantial amount of low carbon electricity in a cost effective way.

114:The assembly heard from three speakers on where our electricity comes from: Mike Hemsley, Committee on Climate Change (informant); Professor Patricia Thornley, Aston University (informant); Professor Jim Watson, University College London (informant). All speakers' presentations are available as slides, videos and transcripts at climateassembly.uk/resources/. An 'informant' is a speaker who we asked to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic.

115:Where bars in the graph don't add up to 100% this is because some assembly members abstained.

116:https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/863325/2018-final-emissions-statistics-summary.pdf

117:The Expert Leads explained to assembly members that there are other methods of removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. These additional methods are currently more speculative; more work needs to be done to enable them to be used at scale and to ensure that the risks associated with them can be managed properly.

118:The assembly heard from three speakers on removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere: Chris Stark, Committee on Climate Change (informant); Bill Spence, independent (advocate); Dr Douglas Parr, Greenpeace (advocate). All speakers' presentations are available as slides, videos and transcripts at climateassembly.uk/resources/. An 'informant' is a speaker who we asked to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic. An 'advocate' is a speaker who we asked to give their own view, or the view of their organisation. Assembly members knew whether speakers were informants or advocates.

119:Assembly members heard evidence about the relative cost of the different methods. It was not possible to give them the more precise figures requested because there are a range of plausible costs for direct CO2 removal methods. Methods also carry a variety of wider costs and benefits that hinder simple cost comparisons.

120:Assembly members heard evidence about the relative cost of the different methods. It was not possible to give them the more precise figures requested because there are a range of plausible costs for direct CO2 removal methods. Methods also carry a variety of wider costs and benefits that hinder simple cost comparisons.

121:Assembly members heard evidence about the relative cost of the different methods. It was not possible to give them the more precise figures requested because there are a range of plausible costs for direct CO2 removal methods. Methods also carry a variety of wider costs and benefits that hinder simple cost comparisons.

122:They tended to choose 'agree' or 'disagree' in all four relevant votes, rather than 'strongly agree' or 'strongly disagree'.

123:The content of the presentation was agreed by all four Expert Leads. It was given by Chris Stark, Committee on Climate Change (informant). An 'informant' is a speaker who we asked to cover the range of views and available evidence on a topic. As with all speakers' presentations to the assembly, a video of the presentation is available at climateassembly.uk/resources/, alongside the accompanying slides and transcript.

124:Assembly members looked at 'where our electricity comes from' and 'removing greenhouse gases from the atmosphere' after lockdown started.

125:Committee on Climate (2020). Reducing UK emissions: 2020 Progress Report to Parliament.

126:This was both the most frequently given rationale and the most controversial.

127:All assembly members took part in the vote about whether Covid-19 and the lockdown had made them think or feel differently about how the UK should get to net zero in general. For the other three votes, just the assembly members who had looked at the relevant theme in detail participated. So, for example, only those who had examined 'in the home' in-depth voted on whether their views on heat and energy use in the home had changed.

128:COP stands for Conference of the Parties. It is attended by countries that signed the 1994 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). Recent COP meetings have focussed on the Paris agreement that was signed at COP21 in 2015. The Paris agreement aims to keep global warming to less than 2°C above pre-industrial revolution temperatures – and to pursue efforts to keep it below 1.5°C.

129:This was both the most frequently given rationale and the most controversial, with some assembly members disagreeing. Please see pages 488 and 489.

130:They tended to choose 'agree' or 'disagree' in all four relevant votes, rather than 'strongly agree' or 'strongly disagree'.

131:% of assembly members who 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with the recommendation.

132:The facilitators had encouraged assembly members to think about this question at previous assembly weekends and to note down thoughts. We kept a list of their suggestions and presented them back to the assembly at this point so that assembly members could pick the ideas up in their discussions if they wanted to.

133:The only exception is where facilitators combined ideas that were so similar as to be almost identical. Here they retained as much of the original wording as possible, only making small changes as necessary to accommodate variations in language or nuance.

134:% of assembly members who 'strongly agreed' or 'agreed' with the recommendation.